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tablets yes

smartphones no (for that its moorefield and Morganfield)

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So mobile Broadwell is coming earlier than desktop?

 

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Macbook Air people will be happy...

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I wonder how scale-able 14nm will actually be for performance desktop. Voltage limits will be tighter than Scrooge's wad. 

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So mobile Broadwell is coming earlier than desktop?

it was known for a while that broadwell-Y (coreM) was getting a major head start before everything else

intel is facing big competition from ARM 

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it was known for a while that broadwell-Y (coreM) was getting a major head start before everything else

intel is facing big competition from ARM 

If Broadwell is going to continue the low-power trend of Haswell, then they got quite a competitor in that chip.

 

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Macbook Air people will be happy...

Considering Core-M is low end hardware, I would be suprised if Apple used it considering Apple only use i5 and up for Macs.

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again a very comprehensive OP... this is getting annoying.

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again a very comprehensive OP... this is getting annoying.

 

 

Whats fun is if you create a new  post thats actually fleshed out with thoughs and opinions with snips of the story/pics posted people will just sit there screaming repost.

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Whats fun is if you create a new  post thats actually fleshed out with thoughs and opinions with snips of the story/pics posted people will just sit there screaming repost.

just add in the OP that you wrote it because you found the original thread lacking in content. also there is a lenghty discussion in the suggestions section about this issue now

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This is a repost of my Tom's hardware article on Broadwell more or less. I don't see new info.

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it was known for a while that broadwell-Y (coreM) was getting a major head start before everything else

intel is facing big competition from ARM

I wouldn't say big competition except in the phone realm. ARM chip wattages and TDP are both coming up while Intel's have been starkly falling since Sandy Bridge.

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I read somewhere that Broadwell desktop and Skylake are going out in either the same or in sequential periods. Skylake coming with DDR4.

If anyone asks why would they release it like that - Some people bought Z97 boards hoping to future proof their system. Of course those aren't DDR4 so if Intel doesn't release a chip for that they'd have bad PR with loyalists. Or maybe because their launching those in different market segments. Their timeframe being Q2 2015.

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14nm will bake unless intel fix their shit. Hopefully we can see soldered IHS's again.

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14nm will bake unless intel fix their shit. Hopefully we can see soldered IHS's again.

No it won't. Broadwell-Y running at 1.5GHz quad-core at only 5-watt TDP shows you're clearly wrong. While soldered IHS are great for casuals and laptop/smartphone/server environments, they're awful for enthusiasts. Naked mount or Coolaboratory Liquid Pro/Ultra under the IHS is the best way to go. Solder gets in the way of deluding and performance.

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No it won't. Broadwell-Y running at 1.5GHz quad-core at only 5-watt TDP shows you're clearly wrong. While soldered IHS are great for casuals and laptop/smartphone/server environments, they're awful for enthusiasts. Naked mount or Coolaboratory Liquid Pro/Ultra under the IHS is the best way to go. Solder gets in the way of deluding and performance.

 

The heat I was talking about was Broadwell-K. Relax. You didn't need to void your warranty and risk damaging a chip with a solder. 

 

Anyway I'm hoping for an even bigger drop in TDP for the Broadwell-U class for ultrabooks, completely silent laptops utilising dual core +HT and awesome iGPU performance would be great to see.

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No it won't. Broadwell-Y running at 1.5GHz quad-core at only 5-watt TDP shows you're clearly wrong. While soldered IHS are great for casuals and laptop/smartphone/server environments, they're awful for enthusiasts. Naked mount or Coolaboratory Liquid Pro/Ultra under the IHS is the best way to go. Solder gets in the way of deluding and performance.

So when intel used soldered IHS in x99 chips they were wrong???

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EEEWWW they used the square root symbol instead of a proper tick/check mark in that table...

Sorry, I just cannot stand that. Knowing Intel, though, I am not surprised.

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