is the samsung 990 pro a good choice?

[GanjajoggiBig]

so ive been looking into storage upgrades to get rid of the HDD i have in my pc and 2TB would be sufficent but now i wonder if the 990 Pro ive looked at is really worth it for the price of 190 (from where i live(Germany)) and was contemplating if its really worth it

id use the drive mostly for games and to make my pc quieter (and save space) but now im questioning if its good for the price its being sold at at my local electronics store (saturn)
for other suggestions my budget is around 200€

Edited April 15 by GanjajoggiBig

[TrollingJoker]

Depends on a few things I guess. What motherboard do you have? If you don't support PCIE 4.0 for example then it could not be worth it.

[porina]

Models and pricing change all the time, on top of regional variations so I can't comment on the specific value. Still, the 990 Pro is a nice high end SSD. Maybe too good for games unless you're after a really top end performance. I'd suggest looking at mid tier SSDs because they're not going to be noticeably slower for games but can be a lot cheaper.

 

31 minutes ago, TrollingJoker said:

If you don't support PCIE 4.0 for example then it could not be worth it.

Doesn't really matter. I'm using the 980 Pro on a 3.0 mobo. You don't really gain anything from seeking a 3.0 era SSD instead of a 4.0 one so might as well get the 4.0 as it can carry forwards in future.

[MiszS]

20 minutes ago, porina said:

Models and pricing change all the time, on top of regional variations so I can't comment on the specific value. Still, the 990 Pro is a nice high end SSD. Maybe too good for games unless you're after a really top end performance. I'd suggest looking at mid tier SSDs because they're not going to be noticeably slower for games but can be a lot cheaper.

I'm pretty sure it's not gonna affect game perfomance at all, just how fast it loads, but even there, the difference is very small, 990 Pro is an overpriced ssd, and you don't need it for gaming

[GanjajoggiBig]

56 minutes ago, TrollingJoker said:

Depends on a few things I guess. What motherboard do you have? If you don't support PCIE 4.0 for example then it could not be worth it.

My MB Is a Asrock B550M PG Riptide

[GanjajoggiBig]

1 minute ago, MiszS said:

I'm pretty sure it's not gonna affect game perfomance at all, just how fast it loads, but even there, the difference is very small, 990 Pro is an overpriced ssd, and you don't need it for gaming

If I understand right, what you are saying is that I can get pretty much the same performance for less of a price?

[podkall]

1 hour ago, GanjajoggiBig said:

id use the drive mostly for games and to make my pc quieter (and save space) but now im questioning if its good for the price its being sold at at my local electronics store (saturn)
for other suggestions my budget is around 200€

The drive doesn't have to be super high end if it's only for games, but only for games and not much of anything else,

 

SSD choice can depend if the files on it will be sometimes erased or not.

 

Just now, GanjajoggiBig said:

If I understand right, what you are saying is that I can get pretty much the same performance for less of a price?

for gaming I could possibly find a cheaper alternative or larger in volume if possible

[MiszS]

Just now, GanjajoggiBig said:

If I understand right, what you are saying is that I can get pretty much the same performance for less of a price?

The same gaming perfomance yeah, the only difference is that the game may load a few seconds slower

[podkall]

The cheapest SSD that are still good fast for games: (MP higher endurance - SN580 slightly faster)

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€124.46 @ Galaxus)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€121.90 @ Galaxus)
Total: €246.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-15 11:49 CEST+0200

 

Even faster SSDs, which is already waste of money then: (SN850x fastest)

PCPartPicker Part List

Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€136.76 @ Galaxus)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€155.66 @ Galaxus)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus W/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€131.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€159.90 @ Alza)
Total: €584.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-15 11:52 CEST+0200

 

The reason why KC3000 is more expensive than 850X besides release date could be that KC3000 has higher endurance, but you don't need that much endurance for gaming, reading files doesn't wear SSD.

[TrollingJoker]

1 hour ago, porina said:

Doesn't really matter. I'm using the 980 Pro on a 3.0 mobo. You don't really gain anything from seeking a 3.0 era SSD instead of a 4.0 one so might as well get the 4.0 as it can carry forwards in future.

While this is true, you don't know if the OP prefers short term gains over long term. PCIE 3.0 SSDs are cheaper so if they prefer that then getting the 990 Pro is unnecessary on that basis alone.

 

His motherboard does support PCIE 4.0 so that argument is mute now.

[Doobeedoo]

It's a great drive, I have few. It may not be needed per say, though they're fairly priced if you're looking long term longevity wise, sustained performance depending what you may do and random performance is great. If you get one update firmware.

[podkall]

31 minutes ago, TrollingJoker said:

While this is true, you don't know if the OP prefers short term gains over long term. PCIE 3.0 SSDs are cheaper so if they prefer that then getting the 990 Pro is unnecessary on that basis alone.

I think @porina knows that Samsung 990 is overkill even if the MB and CPU support it's speed

[GanjajoggiBig]

4 minutes ago, podkall said:

I think @porina knows that Samsung 990 is overkill even if the MB and CPU support it's speed

What im reading of all of thats been discussed is that the 990 pro is overkill. Is there any other with 2TB and perhaps a long lifetime?

[podkall]

21 minutes ago, GanjajoggiBig said:

What im reading of all of thats been discussed is that the 990 pro is overkill. Is there any other with 2TB and perhaps a long lifetime?

if you scroll up you can see my list, you simply ignore the total and choose one,

 

from cheap basket I'd get MP44L and from more expensive basket I'd get SN770,

 

how often do you uninstall games? if it's longer than few months you'll probably have enough to buy a whole new system even

 

the durability isn't really needed much, if the only thing on the SSD are games.

[GanjajoggiBig]

10 minutes ago, podkall said:

 

how often do you uninstall games? if it's longer than few months you'll probably have enough to buy a whole new system even

Honestly, almost never, the games I install I mostly forget About, but the sn770 has a long life and good speed?

[podkall]

15 minutes ago, GanjajoggiBig said:

Honestly, almost never, the games I install I mostly forget About, but the sn770 has a long life and good speed?

yes SN770 is what others would probably recommend too, let me find someone who can vouch for me,

 

@Hinjima @PDifolco while semi-friends, these guys are not affraid to tell me I'm wrong,

 

you can check the official page of WD for 770 and see the specs, those numbers don't lie:

https://www.westerndigital.com/en-us/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn770-nvme-ssd?sku=WDS200T3X0E

[PDifolco]

3 hours ago, GanjajoggiBig said:

so ive been looking into storage upgrades to get rid of the HDD i have in my pc and 2TB would be sufficent but now i wonder if the 990 Pro ive looked at is really worth it for the price of 190 (from where i live(Germany)) and was contemplating if its really worth it

id use the drive mostly for games and to make my pc quieter (and save space) but now im questioning if its good for the price its being sold at at my local electronics store (saturn)
for other suggestions my budget is around 200€

Unless you want the absolute fastest drive, you'd better getting a cheap bigger drive than a marginally faster with half the capacity...the 990 is fast but too expensive  imo on a mid range build

A 2TB SN770 is $140 and pretty good, even better a 4TB  Teamgroup MP44 is $224

[GanjajoggiBig]

22 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Unless you want the absolute fastest drive, you'd better getting a cheap bigger drive than a marginally faster with half the capacity...the 990 is fast but too expensive  imo on a mid range build

A 2TB SN770 is $140 and pretty good, even better a 4TB  Teamgroup MP44 is $224

Im not one about being the fastest but id like to have something thats atleast a Gb (if it doesnt significantly affect the loading speed of games, did I mention I play with many mods?) In reading. About the space 2TB is the minimum since I recently found the moments function of steelseries of and that takes a bit of space, also 2TB is about the best to compensate for loosing the HDD's

Edited April 15 by GanjajoggiBig

[podkall]

9 minutes ago, GanjajoggiBig said:

also 2TB is about the best to compensate for loosing the HDD's

you don't have to sell your HDDs, you can use those for pictures and stuff,

 

10 minutes ago, GanjajoggiBig said:

Im not one about being the fastest but id like to have something thats atleast a Gb (if it doesnt significantly affect the loading speed of games, did I mention I play with many mods?) In reading.

mods or not, SN770 has 5150MB/s read speed in sequential, that's 5 GB every second

 

it also has higher durability than Samsung 980 Pro:

[GanjajoggiBig]

18 minutes ago, podkall said:

you don't have to sell your HDDs, you can use those for pictures and stuff,

 

 

i dont sell them, i just want them out because theyre, loud, old, and not in the best shape, one is with a warning in CrystalDiskInfo

 

18 minutes ago, podkall said:

 

mods or not, SN770 has 5150MB/s read speed in sequential, that's 5 GB every second

 

it also has higher durability than Samsung 980 Pro:

meaning it has a better price per performance, meaning its far better than what i originally wanted

Edited April 15 by GanjajoggiBig

[GuiltySpark_]

14 minutes ago, GanjajoggiBig said:

meaning it has a better price per performance, meaning its far better than what i originally wanted

Its important to note that when it comes to NVMe and a home PC/gaming PC, your overall experience will be near identical for essentially all tasks regardless if you bought a high and Gen5 drive and a much cheaper Gen3 drive. Hell, in a double blind test unless you were able to run a benchmark or transfer files, your experience with even a SATA SSD would be unchanged from the high end NVMe. 

 

Marketing departments for modern NVMe drives would love you to believe otherwise to make their product appear better but the fact of the matter is even lower end NVMe today is absurdly fast for 90% of users and your workload would have to be very intensive professional/enterprise level for something high end to make much of a difference. 

 

Don't let the marketing teams win, don't overspend on a false promise that a higher sequential read/write speed advertised on the box is going to make a difference for you. 

[PDifolco]

49 minutes ago, GanjajoggiBig said:

Im not one about being the fastest but id like to have something thats atleast a Gb (if it doesnt significantly affect the loading speed of games, did I mention I play with many mods?) In reading. About the space 2TB is the minimum since I recently found the moments function of steelseries of and that takes a bit of space, also 2TB is about the best to compensate for loosing the HDD's

NVMe max sequential speed don't really matter when doing anything else than "bulk copy", for example when  loading games, that needs much slower rand r/w.

There's only maybe 15% speed difference in loading time between a "slow" 4GB/sec drive, or even a SATA drive,  and a fast 8GB/Sec one

[Tan3l6]

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is the samsung 990 pro a good choice?

One of the fastest PCIe 4.0 SSDs out there. The real question is - is it worth the price.

[podkall]

26 minutes ago, GanjajoggiBig said:

meaning it has a better price per performance, meaning its far better than what i originally wanted

I mean technically yeah,

 

to give you an example,

 

the difference between SN770 and Pro 990,

 

is like a 500k $ car and 2mil $ car,

 

both have different top speeds, but both will easily run at the law restricted cruising speed

 

3 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

One of the fastest SSDs out there. The real question is - is it worth the price.

that, you don't need a 20mil $ car if a 2mil $ car can do the same thing,

 

990 is best for specific situations or spending money for the sake of spending money

[Tan3l6]

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

that, you don't need a 20mil $ car if a 2mil $ car can do the same thing,

The price difference is not 10-fold though. At maximum 2-fold perhaps, comparing to really low end though (990 Pro to low end SATA SSD).