Ryzen 7 5800x temprature issues.

[Thenny]

Hello,

 

I just upgraded from a 2600x to a 5800x Amd Ryzen Cpu. I seem to hit 90 degree quite quick when playing regular games and it going over 80 at 40% load. I have tried to configure the bios a little but with no guidance I am having an issue.

 

The 7800x lowest temp is 34 that I have been able to achieve. at idle anything from 34-40 with the Watt being at 30 - 40 watts. Loading up different games, and even playing the load varies from 30 - 50% giving the temp at 83 degrees. which seems a little to high for me? I know the highest run temp at this cpu is 90 but it still seems so odd. I just got the MSI MAG CoreLiquid 360R V2 water cooler for the CPU because I got the new cpu yesterday when writing this. The 360R V2 gives me a top temps at 43 with the 2600x with a load of 100%. and lowest temps at 23 degree. I hope you guys understand my "consern"

 

Is there anyone with bios settings that I could "copy"? 

 

Svive Luna X750 W Midi Tower (6x total intake fans and 1x exhaust)

Gainward RTX 2080 8gb Triplefan

AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 

Corsair cx750m, 750w PSU

Asus RogStrix B450F-Gaming

Intel 660p 512GB M.2 SSD

Corsair Vengance 2x8 2666mhz

The thermal paste i've been using is Corsair XTM50

 

This pc is technically from late 2018, beginning to get old, I also have some extra storage. 

The Picture is in Norwegian.

 

Best Regards

Thenny/Rolf

[Dedayog]

6 intake and 1 exhaust is a bad setup. You have a lot of air being pushed in, and not much out.  So your intakes backup and air doesn't really move at all.  Fix that first.

 

You're getting those temps on a 360mm AIO?

[FPS_Lego]

17 minutes ago, Thenny said:

Hello,

 

I just upgraded from a 2600x to a 5800x Amd Ryzen Cpu. I seem to hit 90 degree quite quick when playing regular games and it going over 80 at 40% load. I have tried to configure the bios a little but with no guidance I am having an issue.

 

The 7800x lowest temp is 34 that I have been able to achieve. at idle anything from 34-40 with the Watt being at 30 - 40 watts. Loading up different games, and even playing the load varies from 30 - 50% giving the temp at 83 degrees. which seems a little to high for me? I know the highest run temp at this cpu is 90 but it still seems so odd. I just got the MSI MAG CoreLiquid 360R V2 water cooler for the CPU because I got the new cpu yesterday when writing this. The 360R V2 gives me a top temps at 43 with the 2600x with a load of 100%. and lowest temps at 23 degree. I hope you guys understand my "consern"

 

Is there anyone with bios settings that I could "copy"? 

 

Svive Luna X750 W Midi Tower (6x total intake fans and 1x exhaust)

Gainward RTX 2080 8gb Triplefan

AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 

Corsair cx750m, 750w PSU

Asus RogStrix B450F-Gaming

Intel 660p 512GB M.2 SSD

Corsair Vengance 2x8 2666mhz

The thermal paste i've been using is Corsair XTM50

 

This pc is technically from late 2018, beginning to get old, I also have some extra storage. 

The Picture is in Norwegian.

 

Best Regards

Thenny/Rolf

You've got a defective AIO. You will need a replacement or take a AIO from NZXT. Also change your fan layout, maybe make 3 fans exhaust as 1 fan exhuast is too less. This temp issue with msi aio's thing has happened a lot

[Thenny]

3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

6 intake and 1 exhaust is a bad setup. You have a lot of air being pushed in, and not much out.  So your intakes backup and air doesn't really move at all.  Fix that first.

 

You're getting those temps on a 360mm AIO?

Yes I am getting those temps with 360mm AIO. I have to upgrade the case fans soon since one stopped working. technically 5 intake 1 exhaust. The gpu is at 50 - 60 degree running ultra on games like pubg etc but, the cpu is only thing being too hot.

[Thenny]

1 minute ago, FPS_Lego said:

You've got a defective AIO. You will need a replacement or take a AIO from NZXT. Also change your fan layout, maybe make 3 fans exhaust as 1 fan exhuast is too less. This AIO thing has happened to most MSI AIO's

This AIO is brand new. should not be defect in anyway. showing up on bios going.

[FPS_Lego]

Just now, Thenny said:

This AIO is brand new. should not be defect in anyway. showing up on bios going.

I've seen videos of MSI aios especially giving high temps even though they're brand new or just a couple months old. Change the fan layout and see if it makes a difference, if it does not then the aio is defective. But anyway for the sake of better airflow change the fan layout

[Levent]

5800X has two versions. Later version is able to run significantly cooler with less voltage. However every single 5800X will hit 90c unless you tweak PBO2 manually. Also if you are going to use something to monitor your system, don’t use garbage like realtemp. Temperatures alone don’t mean shit. Use hwinfo and monitor voltage clocks and fan speeds too.

[Thenny]

Just now, Levent said:

5800X has two versions. Later version is able to run significantly cooler with less voltage. However every single 5800X will hit 90c unless you tweak PBO2 manually. Also if you are going to use something to monitor your system, don’t use garbage like realtemp. Temperatures alone don’t mean shit. Use hwinfo and monitor voltage clocks and fan speeds too.

The 5800X was ordered a week ago, I haven't gotten a clue on what programs to use and what not. 

[Thenny]

30 minutes ago, FPS_Lego said:

I've seen videos of MSI aios especially giving high temps even though they're brand new or just a couple months old. Change the fan layout and see if it makes a difference, if it does not then the aio is defective. But anyway for the sake of better airflow change the fan layout

changeing the layout did lower the lowest temps and reduce the time to reach 83++ temps. 

[Thenny]

16 minutes ago, Levent said:

5800X has two versions. Later version is able to run significantly cooler with less voltage. However every single 5800X will hit 90c unless you tweak PBO2 manually. Also if you are going to use something to monitor your system, don’t use garbage like realtemp. Temperatures alone don’t mean shit. Use hwinfo and monitor voltage clocks and fan speeds too.

Using HWiNFO these are the numbers coming up when pushing the cpu a little. Again in Norwegian .-.

[Tegneren]

37 minutes ago, FPS_Lego said:

You've got a defective AIO. You will need a replacement or take a AIO from NZXT. Also change your fan layout, maybe make 3 fans exhaust as 1 fan exhuast is too less. This temp issue with msi aio's thing has happened a lot

Not necessarily. The 5800X is a hot one at stock settings. I have one myself with custom watercooling and it easily reaches 80-85C under heavy load, and thats with a -0,075V offset on the core voltage, and the PBO curve optimizer set to negative 15 all core.

[GuiltySpark_]

Everything here looks mostly normal for a stock 5800x with sub-par cooling. That MSI cooler could likely also be failing, as is common with those Core Liquid models. 

 

They released the 5700x later which is what the 5800x should have been, cooler running with minimal to no performance loss. 

 

As an owner of a 5800x since launch (nearly 3 years now) its absolutely able to be tamed but you have to have all the right pieces. A known good cooler in proper working order, a solid airflow pattern and the real key, PBO CO undervolting. Even a basic all core -20 should make a noticeable dent. 

[FPS_Lego]

19 hours ago, Tegneren said:

Not necessarily. The 5800X is a hot one at stock settings. I have one myself with custom watercooling and it easily reaches 80-85C under heavy load, and thats with a -0,075V offset on the core voltage, and the PBO curve optimizer set to negative 15 all core.

I know the 5800x runs hot, but not like that hot where its nearly 90C on load with a aio or watercooler, ive seen videos of ppl using NZXT aio and the pc running cool. I can guarantee you that the aio is failing, refund it and order maybe corsair or NZXT aio. Ive seen a videos of the MSI aios mostly MPG series failing, there was another series aswell, but yeah..

Ive seen videos where the 5800x is like 80C even with a aio but its mostly between 70-80C on load and not nearly 90C

I mean i could be wrong about this aio failing, but the amount of videos ive seen makes me think that this is infact a failing aio

[Tegneren]

2 minutes ago, FPS_Lego said:

I know the 5800x runs hot, but not like that hot where its nearly 90C on load, ive seen videos of ppl using NZXT aio and the pc running cool. I can guarantee you that the aio is failing, refund it and order maybe corsair or NZXT aio. Ive seen a videos of the MSI aios mostly MPG series failing, there was another series aswell, but yeah..

Yes, 90C on load. I have tested with a NZXT 280 AIO, a CM MasterAir MA620M and the current custom water cooling. Only the current setup doesn't reach 90C almost immediately under heavy load at stock settings.

I also have a friend with the 5800X and a Noctua NH D15, he struggles with the same..

So 90C alone doesn't mean the AIO is failing.

NZXT isn't magic either, the fans on mine failed after two months.

[DoctorNick]

19 hours ago, Thenny said:

Using HWiNFO these are the numbers coming up when pushing the cpu a little. Again in Norwegian .-.

 

There seem to maybe be an issue with that model of AIO, a guy got similar high temps with 5800X:

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/mpg-coreliquid-360r-high-temperature.376936/

[FPS_Lego]

38 minutes ago, Tegneren said:

Yes, 90C on load. I have tested with a NZXT 280 AIO, a CM MasterAir MA620M and the current custom water cooling. Only the current setup doesn't reach 90C almost immediately under heavy load at stock settings.

I also have a friend with the 5800X and a Noctua NH D15, he struggles with the same..

So 90C alone doesn't mean the AIO is failing.

NZXT isn't magic either, the fans on mine failed after two months.

Alright.

[Wh0_Am_1]

21 hours ago, Thenny said:

This AIO is brand new. should not be defect in anyway. showing up on bios going.

Brand new does not mean that it's not defective, the highest failure rates are at the beginning and the toward the end of a product life expectancy, There is a decent chance  that if you or your motherboard has not enabled PBO that it is defective

 

1 hour ago, FPS_Lego said:

I know the 5800x runs hot, but not like that hot where its nearly 90C on load with a aio or watercooler, ive seen videos of ppl using NZXT aio and the pc running cool. I can guarantee you that the aio is failing, refund it and order maybe corsair or NZXT aio. Ive seen a videos of the MSI aios mostly MPG series failing, there was another series aswell, but yeah..

Ive seen videos where the 5800x is like 80C even with a aio but its mostly between 70-80C on load and not nearly 90C

I mean i could be wrong about this aio failing, but the amount of videos ive seen makes me think that this is infact a failing aio

With PBO enabled higher end the 5000 series RUN HOT, with my 5900X when under load with PBO enabled, and fans cranked, I regularly hit 85 to 90C when running Blender and my case vents completely opened. When I was running MSI Kombuster,,, I was in the mid 90s, I was stunned.... I went and reinstalled MY NH-D15 just to make sure I applied the thermal paste correctly, to my surprise... I did... the 5000 series just cooks.

[freeagent]

90c at stock settings points to bad cooling. The CPU has way more performance in it once you break past stock. Gotta keep it cool though. That chip has the potential to break 5GHz on multiple cores.