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So right now i have a 750D which i have modded a little (Build Log) but i know its going to be a little cramped when i watercool it. If i got the Merlin SM8 i would stick with it for a while however it would delay my watercooling... Maybe? I don't know how much money ill be taking in this year since i dont have a during school job however in a few months i will be getting a car. I plan to make around $3000 from my minimum wage job and at the most really want to stay under $1000. I could fit watercooling into this budget but not the case and watercooling.   

 

 

Which would you go with?

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The 750D is pretty good for water cooling as long as you don't make the mistake of buying 60mm thick rads for the top. Check out my build log to see what I'm talking about

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Just looked at it, and DAMN

 

That is one sexy case.

 

I saw caselabs, and I immediately thought "overpriced," but that's surprisingly reasonable based on the stuff from them I've seen.

 

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Watercool and get a lower price case alternative like the enthoo primo

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question,

can you afford three 750D cases?

because that'd be the cost of one CL SM8. your budget says no.

I was comparing watercooling to the case. WC=$800 Case=$500

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I was comparing watercooling to the case. WC=$800 Case=$500

 

i know what your comparo was for, the case value-wise is three corsair 750D

cases. so if you already have something that supports your needs, do you

really need to spend three times more to do relatively the same thing?

actual gain is running a 480/360 radiator support in the SM8 over 360/240

radiator support in the 750D.

 

the only real actual gain in space is the width, length is a little over 3/4" and

height almost .50" with the width almost 2".

750D - 21.5"(L) x 9.25"(W) x 22"(H)

SM8 - 22.38"(L) x 11.18"(W) x 22.44"(H)

Enthoo Primo - 23.62"(L) x 9.84"(W) x 25.59"(H)

 

 
wanna giggle (enthoo primo $240):
 

 

as JayzTwoCents said, "CaseLabs cases are more for the person that

says cost is no option".

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as JayzTwoCents said, "CaseLabs cases are more for the person that

says cost is no option".

Try being in Australia when shipping ends up costing as much as the case! There have been a few guys that have imported them and just been whooped by shipping, but they are amazing cases, and for most people, will never need to be upgraded.

 

OP - can you sell your 750D to a friend to cover a portion of the cost of getting an Enthloo Primo? They are a great option, although they are heavy steel cases, they are made for WC. 

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Excuse the potato picture, but....

 

We have a standard beige case.

Then we have a Corsair 800D.

Then we have the Caselabs TX10

 

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For when "too big" isn't big enough  :D

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Try being in Australia when shipping ends up costing as much as the case! There have been a few guys that have imported them and just been whooped by shipping, but they are amazing cases, and for most people, will never need to be upgraded.

 

OP - can you sell your 750D to a friend to cover a portion of the cost of getting an Enthloo Primo? They are a great option, although they are heavy steel cases, they are made for WC. 

 

 

im getting a SM8 soon from caselabs and the shipping for the case and an additional 120.2 front rad and the shipping is only $152 which is pretty cheap for FedEx

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Excuse the potato picture, but....

We have a standard beige case.

Then we have a Corsair 800D.

Then we have the Caselabs TX10

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E4303465-683D-462A-AA76-7C6CA5EC03B3-596

For when "too big" isn't big enough :D

That looks like a TH10. The TX10 is a lot bigger, Stren from OCN and ExtremeRigs.net has a nice comparison set of several cases including the 900D and the TX10.

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That looks like a TH10. The TX10 is a lot bigger, Stren from OCN and ExtremeRigs.net has a nice comparison set of several cases including the 900D and the TX10.

 

You know what - I think you are right :D They need to add more variations to their model names...

 

Regardless, I bought it 2nd or 3rd hand, and it had not lost any value in Australia, as opposed to the 800D's that were selling for $100 when they were still closer to $300 retail :D

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The 750D is pretty good for water cooling as long as you don't make the mistake of buying 60mm thick rads for the top. Check out my build log to see what I'm talking about

Looks fine to me what was the prob.

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I've only ever experienced a case lab one and it's not mine. I just love the way their build looks and their quality. IMO if money is no object then yeah but I say just make do with your 750D.

 

buying a caselab and shipping it here would be the price of a case lab + 2 more of the same model. 

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I've only ever experienced a case lab one and it's not mine. I just love the way their build looks and their quality. IMO if money is no object then yeah but I say just make do with your 750D.

 

buying a caselab and shipping it here would be the price of a case lab + 2 more of the same model. 

I live in the US so it would be around $65

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I live in the US so it would be around $65

hot damn I envy you  :(  heck I'd even pay 100$ if it would only cost that much for shipping fee + vat.

 

actually I'd say stick wit ha 750D, then get your car hey you can rock with a chick while on a car and you can't do it on a 750D nor the caselab one.

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750d its fine!

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So right now i have a 750D which i have modded a little (Build Log) but i know its going to be a little cramped when i watercool it. If i got the Merlin SM8 i would stick with it for a while however it would delay my watercooling... Maybe? I don't know how much money ill be taking in this year since i dont have a during school job however in a few months i will be getting a car. I plan to make around $3000 from my minimum wage job and at the most really want to stay under $1000. I could fit watercooling into this budget but not the case and watercooling.   

 

 

Which would you go with?

STAY WITH THE 750D!

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Will a 60mm thick rad fit in the top of the 750D?

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Work Server | CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2650 v3 | Model: Cisco UCS C220 M4 (SFF) | RAM: 64GB (4x16GB) Cisco (Samsung) DDR4 2133Mhz | STORAGE: 4x Cisco (Seagate) 900GB 10K 2.5" (RAID 10) - 2x 32GB Cisco FlexFlash Boot Drive (RAID 1) | OS: vSphere 6.7 Enterprise Plus U3 | 

 

Laptop | CPU: Intel Core i7 6700HQ | GPU: Nvidia GTX 960M 2GB GDDR5 | RAM: 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400Mhz | STORAGE: 512GB Hynix NVMe | OS: Windows 10 Pro |

 

Gaming Desktop | CPU: Intel Core i7 9700K | GPU: Gigabyte RTX 2080 WINDFORCE 8G  | Motherboard: ASRock Z390 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX | RAM: Ballistix Elite 32GB Kit (16GB x 2) DDR4-3000 | PSU: Silverstone SX700-LPT 700w 80 PLUS Platinum | STORAGE: 2x Samsung 970 PRO 1TB NVMe | COOLER: Noctua NH-L12 | CASE: Louqe Ghost S1 | OS: Windows 10 Pro | Build Log in Progress | 

 

Home Server | CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2690 (Sandy Bridge) | GPU: Quadro P2000 | Motherboard: SUPERMICRO X9SRL-F  | RAM: 64GB (8x8GB) Micron VLP DDR3-1600 ECC | PSU: SUPERMICRO 665W 80 PLUS Bronze | STORAGE: 2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB (RAID 1) - 4x WD 8TB Ultrastar (RAID 10) - Intel SSD D3-S4510 Series 240GB (BOOT)  | COOLER: Noctua NH-U12DXi4 with 2x Noctua NF-F12 iPPC 3000 PWM | CASE: SUPERMICRO CSE-842TQ-665B 4U | OS: vSphere 6.7 Enterprise Plus U3 | Build Log in Progress |

 

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