6950xt vs 4070ti

[Shabaps]

Hi.

 

I'm in the market for a new GPU (my 1080ti is getting a bit long in the tooth) and I have been keeping an eye on the GPU market.

Currently the 7900 range from AMD as well as the 4080 range and up from Nvidia is out of my budget so I'm looking at the 4070ti from Nvidia at present. However, there is currently a good price on a MSI 6950xt card, and removing RT from the discussion, it looks like really good value.

I'm from New Zealand and currently the cheapest 4070ti card I can find comes in around $1600-$1700 NZD. The MSI 6950xt card is currently going for $1100 NZD. That's a substantial difference for me as I could use the extra $500/$600 I would have spent on something else.

 

I am not fussed by RT performance as most games I play are normal raster games, and I mainly stick to 1440p 144hz as that is my monitors max native resolution. DLSS is great but it's not a deal breaker for me, especially after seeing how FSR 2.0 works in some newer titles, and playing on 1440p I don't suspect I would really need it in any case.

 

So my question would be: Is the 6950xt still a valid option in todays GPU market (is it is RDNA 2 and not 3) in comparison to the 4070ti, or is it better to spend the extra money on the newer card?

Any advice would be appreciated.

 

 

[Middcore]

6950 XT is certainly still a relevant GPU for modern gaming, and should be relevant for 1440p gaming for several more years. 

 

The 4070 ti performs 4% better than the 6950 XT on average, according to TechPowerUp's relative rankings. (The gap will grow with ray tracing enabled but you said you don't care about that.) Since in your local market the 4070 ti is ~50% more expensive, I don't see any case to be made for that... paying 50% more for a performance uplift that's barely outside the margin of error. 

[FlamingPCs]

Hello! These are both great graphics cards, but the 4070ti is definitely better, about 30% better in most things, but I would get the 6950xt, if you're only running games at 1440p at 144hz, you shouldn't need the 4070ti

[FlamingPCs]

6 minutes ago, Middcore said:

6950 XT is certainly still a relevant GPU for modern gaming, and should be relevant for 1440p gaming for several more years. 

 

The 4070 ti performs 4% better than the 6950 XT on average, according to TechPowerUp's relative rankings. (The gap will grow with ray tracing enabled but you said you don't care about that.) Since in your local market the 4070 ti is ~50% more expensive, I don't see any case to be made for that... paying 50% more for a performance uplift that's barely outside the margin of error. 

I'm not sure how they got the 4% difference, but in reality it's closer to 30%. Check here: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-6950-XT-vs-Nvidia-RTX-4070-Ti/m1843533vs4146

[dizmo]

If it wasn't for the price difference, I'd strongly go with Nvidia. At those prices? Harder decision. Honestly though, I'd probably still go with Nvidia.

I've had far too many headaches with AMD GPUs.

[Middcore]

1 minute ago, FlamingPCs said:

I'm not sure how they got the 4% difference, but in reality it's closer to 30%. Check here: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-6950-XT-vs-Nvidia-RTX-4070-Ti/m1843533vs4146

 

Userbenchmark has a not-even-concealed bias against AMD products, and should generally never be trusted. 

[Middcore]

Some data from reputable reviewers:

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-review-a-costly-70-class-gpu/5 

Based on 9 games at 1440p

4070 ti averages 115fps

6950 XT averages 111

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/2601-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti/ 

Based on 16 games at 1440p

4070 ti averages 152 fps

6950 XT averages 145

 

 

[Shimejii]

5 minutes ago, FlamingPCs said:

I'm not sure how they got the 4% difference, but in reality it's closer to 30%. Check here: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-6950-XT-vs-Nvidia-RTX-4070-Ti/m1843533vs4146

Do not ever talk about tech and specs while linking user benchmark. Until you learn what is good data, bad data, reputable sites and non reputable sites, refrain from spreading bad info. UserBenchmark has been well known for being blatantly bad, they HATE AMD, and do everything to skew results against them. A 4070ti is a glorified 3090 at lower power, a 6950XT is about the same as a 3090, with some losses in the 3-6% range depending on the game. Its not 30%, that alone should make you question the validity of the data if you spent 5 minutes looking at info. Ray tracing? I could see a performance difference like that, but in general no.

 

OP how much are 6900XT there? 

[Middcore]

3 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

Do not ever talk about tech and specs while linking user benchmark. Until you learn what is good data, bad data, reputable sites and non reputable sites, refrain from spreading bad info.

 

This is harshly stated but I have to agree with the general point.

 

@FlamingPCs, I can only encourage you to do more research on this. Knowledgeable PC communities will generally laugh you out of the room if you cite Userbenchmark for a performance comparison between two parts, and I think there are some sites and subreddits where linking to it is actually banned. 

[IkeaGnome]

12 minutes ago, FlamingPCs said:

I'm not sure how they got the 4% difference, but in reality it's closer to 30%. Check here: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-6950-XT-vs-Nvidia-RTX-4070-Ti/m1843533vs4146

 

[Shabaps]

Thanks all for the valuable input. The videos were very helpful. From what I have seen the performance is very similar and the 6950xt even pulls off a couple of wins in certain games. The one concern is that the power usage of the 6950xt is very high in comparison to the 4070ti but the Nvidia card also doesn't show me major value at this point in time for the price and performance it offers. 

I might hang on to my 1080ti a little while longer to see if prices or other specials pop up.

[QuantumSingularity]

6950XT all day. The 4070Ti is just way too overpriced for the performance to the GTX 1080Ti. It's barely twice as fast in native rendering at 1440p - a gap that closes quite easily when using FSR with the GTX 1080Ti.. Same goes for the 7900XT(non-second-X). In my opinion - hold onto that 1080Ti, use FSR and wait more. The majority of people who "upgraded" to 4070Ti or 7900XT from a 1080Ti aren't all that impressed and happy. Only really desperate people are now buying GPUs and it shows. Prices have been steadily going down a bit and they WILL go down even further to the point where they might start to make sense again. Despite what Nvidia are trying to make you think, a 70 class GPU is not worth $1000. It's not worth even $700. It should be right at $549. Idk if Nvidia or AMD for that matter see that the ship is very close to capsizing. The market is about to collapse and they have no one to blame but themselves and the shameless upsales. Another crypto bubble burst is on the horizon and this time it should be a serious one. There are still plenty of miner GPUs that just sit idle and wait for better times, which will never come. 

[xg32]

6950xt for 1440p. 

 

userbenchmark is a joke, and from actually using the cards the 6950xt is bit faster than what techpowerup claims.

 

nvidia is really mispricing everything except the 4090

[Sir Beregond]

17 hours ago, FlamingPCs said:

I'm not sure how they got the 4% difference, but in reality it's closer to 30%. Check here: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-6950-XT-vs-Nvidia-RTX-4070-Ti/m1843533vs4146

You're using user benchmark as a source? Joke right?

 

Given the price differential, the 6950XT would be my choice, no question. The 4070Ti does not give you $500/$600 worth of additional performance and is just generally overpriced as a product. The 6950XT at $1100 NZD is roughly equivalent to $690 USD, so that's a pretty good price for that card. That 4070 Ti on the other hand at $1600-$1700 NZD is roughly $1000-$1100 USD. Not even close to a good price.

[andrewmp6]

I just bought a 6950xt nitro,At 1440p gaming its still a amazing card.Some older games like gta5 i have to lock the fps at 144hz or it runs too fast and stutters some.Gta5 1440p max settings i see 180fps.I didn't see the 4070ti being worth the extra money to me plus having to spend 30 dollars for a power cable not to use the adapter.If i was going to spend that much money i would have went for a 7900xt or the 7900xtx.