NAVI31 won’t be using the RTX 4090’s melting power connector!

[Demonking]

10 hours ago, Moonzy said:

For 30 series, only a couple 3080 needed 3, and all 3070 and most other 3080 used two

 

You can get those

I grabbed a 3090 Tuf, for that reason.

[Alimony]

10 hours ago, Arika S said:

I can guarantee this is not because of the issues nvidia is facing, they were just not planning on doing it this gen

Pretty much, also wouldn't surprise me if there's royalties involved in using Nvidia's new connector

[Sarra]

Yay NVidia is having an Intel moment (see: burnt pins)

[Shzzit]

3090 ti used same connector right?  And the kingpin was pulling 800 watts.  So I don’t see a problem with the connector.   Just garbage adapters. 

[leadeater]

2 hours ago, Shzzit said:

3090 ti used same connector right?  And the kingpin was pulling 800 watts.  So I don’t see a problem with the connector.   Just garbage adapters. 

Not really, kind of but no.

 

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When Nvidia introduced its proprietary 12-pin power connector with its GeForce RTX 30-series Founders Edition graphics cards last year, many considered it an overkill. But the move might indeed be pretty wise as that connector and cable are compatible with the industry-standard 12+4-pin (12VHPWR) power connection, so existing GeForce Founders Edition graphics boards will work just fine with next-generation PSUs.

 

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Nvidia's 12-pin power connector (formally known as the Molex MicroFit 3.0 dual row, 12 circuits) is designed to deliver up to 600W to a graphics card using 12V rail of a PSU and apparently the same amount of power is set to be delivered by a 12+4-pin auxiliary PCIe 5.0 power connector (also known as 12VHPWR).  

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidias-12-pin-power-connector-will-work-with-next-gen-pcie-5-psus

 

RTX 30 series 12 Pin does not have the 4 sense pins or plugs on the connector at all. The Nvidia supplied 12 Pin to 8 Pin were also of a different design and only used 2x 8 Pin not 4x 8 Pin making the converter less complicated but also technically violating the maximum power over 8 Pin cables and connectors.

[Shzzit]

14 hours ago, leadeater said:

Not really, kind of but no.

 

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidias-12-pin-power-connector-will-work-with-next-gen-pcie-5-psus

 

RTX 30 series 12 Pin does not have the 4 sense pins or plugs on the connector at all. The Nvidia supplied 12 Pin to 8 Pin were also of a different design and only used 2x 8 Pin not 4x 8 Pin making the converter less complicated but also technically violating the maximum power over 8 Pin cables and connectors.

We’ll shit lol, if the old adapter was doing 400-800 watts just fine in 3090 ti, and now we have adapters that melt doing 300-500?  What the hell happend?  Are they just that garbage or badly built? 
 

I was gonna worry but I can’t even find a 4090 to buy

[leadeater]

1 hour ago, Shzzit said:

Are they just that garbage or badly built?

It's just the Nvidia provided adapter, native 12 Pin or anyone else's adapter is as far as we know fine. Seems to be manufacturing issue and with the outer pins and cable(s). A 4x 8 Pin to 12 Pin so close to the GPU is ugly and stupid anyway, no way I'd use that, much better adapters on the market.

[Shzzit]

5 hours ago, leadeater said:

It's just the Nvidia provided adapter, native 12 Pin or anyone else's adapter is as far as we know fine. Seems to be manufacturing issue and with the outer pins and cable(s). A 4x 8 Pin to 12 Pin so close to the GPU is ugly and stupid anyway, no way I'd use that, much better adapters on the market.

Good to know thanks mate.  I got the gf3 thermaltake 1650 atx 3.0 psu.  It’s 600 watt cables are very thick, I’m guessing I’ll be ok once I get a card? 
 

Thanks for all the information.

[HumdrumPenguin]

15 minutes ago, Shzzit said:

Good to know thanks mate.  I got the gf3 thermaltake 1650 atx 3.0 psu.  It’s 600 watt cables are very thick, I’m guessing I’ll be ok once I get a card? 
 

Thanks for all the information.

I have the card but can't get the PSU. Let's fuse our possessions in the name of FPS safety.

[Shzzit]

2 hours ago, HumdrumPenguin said:

I have the card but can't get the PSU. Let's fuse our possessions in the name of FPS safety.

Haha sounds like the future. 

[Stahlmann]

So far it seems like 3rd party cables don't have this issue, only Nvidia's included adapter. This issue seems more like a build quality issue than anything else. And here you have hobby-grade electrical engineers saying this connector design is flawed and DOA.

 

Guys, sometimes it's best to take a step back, get some more information from another source and think about it before jumping on the hate-train. And no, another random reddit post is not what i mean.

[Kisai]

12 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

So far it seems like 3rd party cables don't have this issue, only Nvidia's included adapter. This issue seems more like a build quality issue than anything else. And here you have hobby-grade electrical engineers saying this connector design is flawed and DOA.

 

Guys, sometimes it's best to take a step back, get some more information from another source and think about it before jumping on the hate-train. And no, another random reddit post is not what i mean.

 

I say wait a year and see how many "burned" cable reports come out and what card they were used on. I would certainly not buy a 4090 and use that 4 PCIe adapter though. At this point I'd wait for the Ti cards and see if things change.

 

[spartaman64]

people are saying just dont bend the cable but idk depending on your case it might be impossible to route the cable without some bending 

[Senzelian]

19 hours ago, spartaman64 said:

people are saying just dont bend the cable but idk depending on your case it might be impossible to route the cable without some bending 

Nvidia's fix will be a drill you can rent for $199,95 a day to drill holes into the sidepanel of your case.