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The God of Computer Fans

AlexTheGreatish
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To answer the question of "What are these fans even for?"

 

It is just a fan.

 

In industry fans are just a thing, a component like anything else.

So if one has something that needs airflow, one buys a suitable fan with the correct voltage, dimensions, mounting, and airflow/pressure required by the application. Often one ends up designing the enclosure to the fan, but the other way around is also common.

 

So in short, it is just another fan.

 

And it isn't even particularly big as far as industry is concerned.

There is far bigger off the shelf fans available that makes these 500 L/s fans seem tiny.

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10 minutes ago, Nvidix said:

Does anyone know what Case that is?

Looks like a Fractal Design Torrent. 

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/torrent/torrent/black-rgb-tg-light-tint/

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Now we need Linus to stuff said PC with more of those fans. getting multiple 7000RP aluminum delta fans to cool said PC 

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they should just go all in and try this setup with no heatsink on the CPU at all, see if the CPU survives

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I found a use for those. Commercial grade juicers. 

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1 hour ago, AlexTheGreatish said:

Being Delta Electronic's most powerful fan we had to try the THD2048HT - aka Blowzooka - out.

 

 

 

For the record I was working with some super cheap fans the other week, and the LEDs were turning on when we threw a leaf blower at it.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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in all honesty, this is the most stupid thing i have seen in a long time in terms of work safety. Why wouldn't you cut a fan grill on your laser cutter? one wrong move and your finger is gone. And linus pointed several times at things right in the same direction where the fan was standing. it's not like anyone ever has never hit their fingers on the table when pulling it up from below. 

Jesus and why do you use a buck converter when you all got that glorious lab equipment for several hundretthousend dollars? Were you even using it within its currentlimits? with wires on 100°C, i kinda doubt it, but who knows with that cheap shit nowaydays 

 

edit oh nevermind the wires were your own. for fucks sake. You hired electrical engineers. Use them 

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3 minutes ago, RingaDingDingDong said:

in all honesty, this is the most stupid thing i have seen in a long time in terms of work safety. Why wouldn't you cut a fan grill on your laser cutter? one wrong move and your finger is gone. And linus pointed several times at things right in the same direction where the fan was standing. it's not like anyone ever has never hit their fingers on the table when pulling it up from below. 

Jesus and why do you use a buck converter when you all got that glorious lab equipment for several hundretthousend dollars? Were you even using it within its currentlimits? with wires on 100°C, i kinda doubt it, but who knows with that cheap shit nowaydays 

 

edit oh nevermind the wires were your own. for fucks sake. You hired electrical engineers. Use them 

I can agree on the fan grill being a wise idea to have. Mistakes can happen far more trivially than one can realize at times.

But the PSU testing equipment are electronic loads, not power supplies. They can't output power, only take it in.
Therefore they needed to make a power supply able to supply the necessary voltage.

Using a boost converter like they did is fine, and honestly how a lot of stuff gets done in industry too. But yes, they should have used a bit thicker wiring.

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What model of smaller fan did they reference in the video that was 55 dollars?

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Yeah, definitely deploy this in all your editing workstations - because you guys aren't tone deaf and crazy enough 🤣

 

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And no, my side panels don't get blown off 😉

 

 

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That thing sounds like Norm Abram's table saw when it's going.

I sold my soul for ProSupport.

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They also have a 12CM version 

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https://www.delta-fan.com/pfr1212dhe-sp00.html

44Watts though so it's going to kill your motherboard.

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those fans are commonly used on VFDs, variable frequency drives. mainly big ones with integrated brake resistors.
That and electrical cabinets which need a ton of air volume for some stupid reason.

also tell Linus to quit being a baby, I have one of that exact boost converter that I use to run a 65v LED and I commonly have to demonstrate it's safety by rubbing my hand all over it including the output terminals. 
You are also very out of spec with 24v input at the wattage of two fans. you should be at 48v in or using one for each fan. they are only 1500w near the top of their voltage input rating, which I think is 60

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9 hours ago, Nystemy said:

To answer the question of "What are these fans even for?"

 

It is just a fan.

 

In industry fans are just a thing, a component like anything else.

So if one has something that needs airflow, one buys a suitable fan with the correct voltage, dimensions, mounting, and airflow/pressure required by the application. Often one ends up designing the enclosure to the fan, but the other way around is also common.

 

So in short, it is just another fan.

 

And it isn't even particularly big as far as industry is concerned.

There is far bigger off the shelf fans available that makes these 500 L/s fans seem tiny.

Shere can I purchase a fan with a higher L/S with a semi standard hole spacing?

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9 hours ago, AlexTheGreatish said:

Being Delta Electronic's most powerful fan we had to try the THD2048HT - aka Blowzooka - out.

 

 

 

I thought I had a good fan but no. I am so disappointed with my rig now.

This is a video of my computer under light load.

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Why not use an Electric Ducted Fan motor kit intended for RC Jet aircraft?

"Ducted Fan EDF Schubeler DS-86-AXI HDS 120mm"

https://www.turbines-rc.com/en/schubeler/1275-ducted-fan-edf-schubeler-ds-86-axi-hds-120mm-het-800-60-830-motor.html

 

With the right controller, it might even sound like a jet engine spooling up. I wonder what Linus will think.

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2 minutes ago, neuropilot said:

Why not use an Electric Ducted Fan motor kit intended for RC Jet aircraft?

"Ducted Fan EDF Schubeler DS-86-AXI HDS 120mm"

https://www.turbines-rc.com/en/schubeler/1275-ducted-fan-edf-schubeler-ds-86-axi-hds-120mm-het-800-60-830-motor.html

 

With the right controller, it might even sound like a jet engine spooling up. I wonder what Linus will thing.

Agree

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3 hours ago, neuropilot said:

Why not use an Electric Ducted Fan motor kit intended for RC Jet aircraft?

"Ducted Fan EDF Schubeler DS-86-AXI HDS 120mm"

https://www.turbines-rc.com/en/schubeler/1275-ducted-fan-edf-schubeler-ds-86-axi-hds-120mm-het-800-60-830-motor.html

 

With the right controller, it might even sound like a jet engine spooling up. I wonder what Linus will think.

37V @ 100A....  IDK what they could even fuckin' power that with....a dedicated 220V circuit in the workshop stepped down?

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8 hours ago, tkitch said:

37V @ 100A....  IDK what they could even fuckin' power that with....a dedicated 220V circuit in the workshop stepped down?

thats a bit over 15 amps at 240v. I'm certain they have accommodations for such small 240v loads. 

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Oh for the love of all that is holy:

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