AMD's ridiculous suicide in the Norwegian (possibly European) market. (Who's responsible?)

[topsu]

The R9 295X2 is ~$2150 or 14000SEK in Sweden.

 

A Titan Black is 8500SEK, 40% less. Though it's not a dual GPU card, of course.

 

http://www.webhallen.com/se-sv/datorkomponenter/197949-powercolor_radeon_r9_295x2_8gb&atcl=search:live

[Misanthrope]

Wish we had this in Mexico. Considering we're bellow the US, prices would be pretty good.

 

tru dat.

[Paralectic]

 Oh well what?

Better off Crossfiring 290x's for 1000EU.

[FloRolf]

Better off Crossfiring 290x's for 1000EU.

 

even better of with cf 290 for 700€

[mr moose]

All products are the same, it comes down to what the consumer will pay and what it cost the company to get the product in to the country. 

 

Basically a company will charge as much as it can for a product,  this will usually be impacted by the population, mean household income, relevant company tax/sales taxes,  import/export tariffs, international transaction fees and currency conversion fees.  In Australia because the mean income is so high and the population is so low combined with a 10% GST and the extra cost of importing from the US, then the price for many products is notably  higher than the US.  Which has a slightly low mean household income, 10 times the population and they don't pay tariffs on local products. 

 

tl:dr  comparing prices to the US prices is flawed.  When we take into account all the other factors we can see that there are few products that are intentionally priced significantly higher than reasonable.

 

I only know  2 products that are priced higher than reasonable in Australia:  AMD but only when compared to Nvidia and Adobe software.

[Fetzie]

Mindfactory.de has a Sapphire branded R9-295x2 for 1350 Euro including sales tax (20%).

 

http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/2x-4096MB-Sapphire-R9-295X2-GDDR5-DVI-4x-Mini-DisplayPort_958789.html

[リチャード]

http://www.webhallen.com/se-sv/datorkomponenter/197949-powercolor_radeon_r9_295x2_8gb&atcl=search:live

Dafuq... I guess I should've used pricerunner for the lowest price, and not just go with inet as I always do

[MangoJuiceStain]

Sometimes I complain that Canadian pricing on electronics is unfair in comparison to US prices. I guess it's not that bad...

Yeah, but most Canadians live on the border and are CLOSER to US warehouses than the rest of the US, so why do we get charged like 20% more and no one ships to Canada?

[Notional]

What kind of nvidia propaganda is this? Of course the prices are higher in scandinavia, it ALWAYS is on EVRYTHING. You can never do a direct convertion from US to any Scandinavian currency, when it comes to consumer pricing. You have import duties, much higher taxation, higher salaries, 25% VAT (in DK and NO), etc. Also that currency convertion is Central Bank convertion, so you would not get the same rate in your bank.

 

AMD 295x2 ~12.000 NKR

nVidia Titan Black ~ 8.200 NKR

So just under 50% higher price. Titan Black is what? 1.000 USD? So that is the same percentage difference in the states.

 

AMD 290 3.695 NKR

nVidia 780 3.995 NKR @ komplett.no

 

Bigger difference than in NCIX Canada. I can hardly see how this is "AMD's ridiculous suicide"?!

[bbqsauce]

Sometimes you have to consider the typical electronic prices in certain countries with taxes and what not.

In singapore a 295x is going for 2.5k sgd = almost 2k USD.

 

Taxes + markup + other factors. Sometimes its just the seller marking up the prices and amd doesn't benefit at all.

[Khvarrioiren]

So it's their European distribution network then

 

Nothing to do about distribution. Import taxes where applicable, and price conversion in the fashion of 1:1. That's the deal. And the R9 295x2 is about 1500 Eur here, which is about 2200 USD. And I have absolutely no reason to cry about that, because that's how things work in international trade.

[TOMPPIX]

oh look that's a nice price 2211,74 USD

[AlwaysFSX]

 

Wish we had this in Mexico. Considering we're bellow the US, prices would be pretty good.

Border hopping to where I am makes it easier. People do it a ton.

[proppsie]

Nothing to do about distribution. Import taxes where applicable, and price conversion in the fashion of 1:1. That's the deal. And the R9 295x2 is about 1500 Eur here, which is about 2200 USD. And I have absolutely no reason to cry about that, because that's how things work in international trade.

It has always been like that. If something costs 1500 USD, it's around 1500 EUR here, or even more. The first online shop that had the 295X2 here in Hungary is still selling it for 1743 Euros. Best price i could find is 1400 Euros which is far more acceptable. Still not worth it for me.

[Khvarrioiren]

oh look that's a nice price 2211,74 USD

 

Funny, last I checked about 2 hours ago Jimm's still had 4 in stock.

[zeibis]

I checked low end cards and AMD R7 260X 2gb at ncix.com is around 160 CAD and GTX 750 Ti is about 180 CAD, but in Latvia both cards go around 120€, so there is no 20 CAD difference and 750Ti beats AMD in price/performance in this case.

 

Could it be possible that AMD prices are higher then Nvidia still due to coin mining? It is possible that Europe market needs more time to adjust prices, as when litecoin messed with prices in USA, most of AMD cards where cheap for many weeks and then slowly got expensive.

[slenderman379]

Well while you guys whine about 30%.. we here in india have a whopping 90% to 100%tax on imports of luxury electronics.

Also(not that it's of much relevance here) 180%on cars

[D3MON]

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-msi-radeon-r9-295-x2-5000mhz-gddr5-gpu-947mhz-boost-1018mhz-5632-streams-dvi-mdp
£1127 in the uk, considering a titan is £800ish it makes a good deal. oh and for the mathmatically challenged i compare the titan because it has 6gb of vram, who wants to do 4k on 3gb vram, thats like doing 1080p on a 768mb card....
bear in mind things are usually along the lines of (but not exactly) $=£ when it comes to electronics. if an 8350 is $160 in the us its £150 here, sometimes a card/psu is $90 in the us and £70 here...

id still do crossfire msi 290's (only 20% more expensive than a 780ti but near double the performance).

[BWSSoldya]

Same story here in the Neterlands.

Then again, I'm pretty used to it. Most US prices are straight up converted to Euro's for us giving us a 38% increase in price (at the time of writing) which is absolutely stupid.

 

 

[Levis95l]

Don't you have VAT in electronics in Norway? That's weird.

[That Norwegian Guy]

Don't you have VAT in electronics in Norway? That's weird.

 

VAT on everything, obviously, but no electronics-specific taxes/ fees, like most European countries have.

[Mindtrickz]

It's IMPORTANT to remember that the European prices are with tax and VAT while the US prices are without. With that being said. So converting a US price directly to Eur is misleading.

 

With that being said. This card costs €1450 euro here in Denmark. It would be cheaper to SLI two GTX 780 Ti's. The price for those is €1281.

[Geldar]

You should come to australia... 33% increase is cheap.

[Simmytu]

-Snip- 

Then again, I'm pretty used to it. Most US prices are straight up converted to Euro's for us giving us a 38% increase in price (at the time of writing) which is absolutely stupid.

Crazy world huh? I hate this so much. Those prices in the US aren't that terrible compared to what the rest of the world has to deal with, especially with 1:1 currency conversion ಠ_ಠ

 

I've looked at Azerty.nl and found somehow the same thing. Some of these cards are priced at €1800 or $2500 for a *** damn card! I can buy a occasion Volvo S40 with decent mileage for that amounts of money!

I'm looking at you! http://azerty.nl/8-5829-687083/asus-r9295x2-8gd5.html

[Trip]

I've priced up two identical builds one from a UK retailer and one from NCIX Canada, even with import delivery and fees, the one from Canada is usually about £600 cheaper than if I'd bought it from the UK.