DON'T Buy a Used Mining GPU! - $h!t Manufacturers Say

[MultiGamerClub]

32 minutes ago, Kid.Lazer said:

I wouldn't hesitate to buy a mining card today.

There are nightmare examples that arent shown in the first few months, but generally mining cards are still great cards that can run for many years..

 

And when it comes to where i live.. Where most electronics including graphic cards have a 5 year warranty ONTOP of the 2-3 year warranty the brand itself say..

Its not that bad using a mining card when it 1 or 2 year(s) left on its warranty.. Have seen friends mine the living SHIT out of their 2080 ti only for them to die 2 years in the run..

While other 2080ti's still run great today, some have reduced performance above 95% load due to high-temperatures and wrongful settings but most cards are still working great.

 

So if my friends 2080ti would die tomorrow, it still has 2 years left on warranty.. Even if its been "tortured" on a mining rig.

Its only recently (Meaning in recent years since mining began.) where some brands have tried to refuse this law, but ends up loosing.. Even if they know it was a mining card.

("Forbrukerkjøpsloven / the Consumer Purchase Act" in norway, have covered myself in the past.. Regarding a well used 1070 X.)

[emosun]

1 hour ago, Kid.Lazer said:

FTFY

ah so some don't and are junk glad we agree. In that case my opinion on what I'll do won't change then. If you want to buy broken gpu's thats fine I literally don't care what you do.

[Kid.Lazer]

1 hour ago, emosun said:

ah so some don't and are junk glad we agree. In that case my opinion on what I'll do won't change then. If you want to buy broken gpu's thats fine

Calm down. You were the one that tried to use my own words against me by mis-characterizing what I said. I used the terms most, usually, etc... You said every; Very different.

 

That doesn't change the fact (which you ignored and went to straight to attacking) that mining 7 years ago was a different animal, and the hardware is typically not abused in that fashion anymore. Yes, there are outliers of people that still push them to the limit, but they are in the minority. And poo-pooing a whole market based on that segment is quite foolish. But as you said:

1 hour ago, emosun said:

I literally don't care what you do.

 

[emosun]

14 minutes ago, Kid.Lazer said:

poo-pooing a whole market based on that segment is quite foolish

well this mansplaining session sure has been fun. Be sure to let me know the next time you plan on telling me what I have to do so I don't miss out on terrible inexperienced advice.

[Radium_Angel]

23 hours ago, MultiGamerClub said:

Atleast this link works.

 

@Radium_AngelIm not sure whats so funny about this comment since you reacted with a laughing emoji, recently links from youtube descriptions to the forum has been broken and their not working correctly.

I found it funny, because it's a common thing with LTT videos, so the thought that ran through my head was "you must be new here"..

[MultiGamerClub]

3 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

I found it funny, because it's a common thing with LTT videos, so the thought that ran through my head was "you must be new here"..

Only a few years now, but i noticed the basement video doesnt have a post but its hidden i think for some reason.. Been hidden for 3 days now i think..

 

This link: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1365910-ultimate-gaming-basement-setup-intel-5000-extreme-tech-upgrade/

Error code: 2F173/O

 

That and some other videos just stopped working.. Even if the exact link on the forum, or rather the post itself was still public.

 

edit: I realise i registered one year before you now, but i havent been much active until more recently as i changed from a norwegian forum to this one.

Edited August 20, 2021 by MultiGamerClub

[Kid.Lazer]

1 hour ago, emosun said:

well this mansplaining session sure has been fun. Be sure to let me know the next time you plan on telling me what I have to do so I don't miss out on terrible inexperienced advice.

I never told you to do anything. I simply explained the differences between now and then, and the "then" is where your experience originated. It doesn't apply to the same degree today. But hey, if your advice from one event 7 years ago is good enough, keep on keepin' on.

[KaitouX]

Gamers often abuse their GPUs way more than miners, but apparently that is different and doesn't count. It's funny how you don't see people saying "The used GPU I bought stopped working because it was used to gaming/folding/rendering." but you do see "... because it was used to mining". If you can't deal with getting unlucky and the GPU stopping working without having any way to recover it through warranty, buying used isn't for you.

 

On topic: I think it was added that the reason for the lost performance according to Palit was the age of the thermal paste/pads and dust, which would increase the temperatures and lower performance as result. Basically the normal expected issues with any old GPU that can be solved in 5 minutes.

[dogwitch]

3 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

Gamers often abuse their GPUs way more than miners, but apparently that is different and doesn't count. It's funny how you don't see people saying "The used GPU I bought stopped working because it was used to gaming/folding/rendering." but you do see "... because it was used to mining". If you can't deal with getting unlucky and the GPU stopping working without having any way to recover it through warranty, buying used isn't for you.

 

On topic: I think it was added that the reason for the lost performance according to Palit was the age of the thermal paste/pads and dust, which would increase the temperatures and lower performance as result. Basically the normal expected issues with any old GPU that can be solved in 5 minutes.

same with storage. i stop trying to help/explain to them.

[hishnash]

I do have one kit pick to have with this video. Since these cards were lent out from an active mining rig they were not destined to be sold so are not a good indication of a card being sold. You might want to ask why would a mining operation sell a 2 years old card? or a 3 year old card? is it possible that the mining cards hitting the market are already those that are under performing (due to damage of some form) and thus the mining operation want to sell these cards off? 

[KaitouX]

3 hours ago, hishnash said:

I do have one kit pick to have with this video. Since these cards were lent out from an active mining rig they were not destined to be sold so are not a good indication of a card being sold. You might want to ask why would a mining operation sell a 2 years old card? or a 3 year old card? is it possible that the mining cards hitting the market are already those that are under performing (due to damage of some form) and thus the mining operation want to sell these cards off? 

Based on past crashes, they would be sold because mining with those GPUs isn't profitable anymore.

[Blademaster91]

1 hour ago, offweek said:

The purpose of a thing is what it does.  If it mines profitably then it is for mining.

It isn't just for mining, and RTX cards are just good at mining because of the tensor cores.

13 hours ago, KaitouX said:

Gamers often abuse their GPUs way more than miners, but apparently that is different and doesn't count.

It's different when gamers usually run a single card a few hours per day at those most, opposed to a lot of mining setups i've seen people running cards sitting on a floor, crammed on a rack, or in a mining farm in a room without heat or AC. I'd rather trust a card that got used for gaming, than a mining card that more than likely has worn out fans, which is usually inconvenient to RMA if you don't want to zip tie fans to your GPU.

[KaitouX]

29 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

It's different when gamers usually run a single card a few hours per day at those most, opposed to a lot of mining setups i've seen people running cards sitting on a floor, crammed on a rack, or in a mining farm in a room without heat or AC. I'd rather trust a card that got used for gaming, than a mining card that more than likely has worn out fans, which is usually inconvenient to RMA if you don't want to zip tie fans to your GPU.

Gamers often run their GPUs in cases with bad airflow, don't clean the GPUs and I would assume that the speed variation(+ fanstop) is worse for durability of the fans than constant speed. Plus the thermal variation is naturally worse for the GPU than constant temperatures.

Either way it doesn't really matter, the average GPU should be able to go through much worse without showing any issues(check laptops), all this "mining GPUs are bad" makes no real sense and as far as I'm aware have no actual data to prove anything.

My point is that the treatment of the GPUs isn't that different between miners and gamers, and it doesn't matter, GPUs aren't that fragile to this type of treatment.

[Rex Hite]

15 minutes ago, Asbo Zapruder said:

The laughing emoji is for when you're laughing AT someone, not with them, right?

 

Just wanna be sure I'm using it properly.

If anyone would know about that, Asbo should!