The breathing PC (from DIY Perks)

[Wiredfutureman]

Just watched the DIY Perks build of a “breathing”, water cooled and bellows powered computer and it looks and works amazingly well!

 

I wonder if a more compact version could have equally good performance and make for one super quiet and elegant workstation... What do you think?

 

(Not affiliated - just saw this and thought I’d share with you) 

 

 

 

[Biohazard777]

11 minutes ago, Wiredfutureman said:

I wonder if a more compact version could have equally good performance

A bit more compact without losing performance, maybe... For a lot more compact you'd have to drive that "mover panel" a lot faster... ending up with a lot more noise.

[Bramimond]

I don't mind the size, my PC part of the furniture, anyway. I'd be more interested in increasing the size of the top, to fit a couple of large HDDs inside. And also have the bottom part covered up. It's as annoying as animated pictures in forums are.

 

But what kills it for me is the whole water cooling thing. Not a fan of that type of mess. Having everything passively cooled like in that recent LTT video is more to my liking. I wonder if you can combine them.

[Karimento]

Watched this video and the size don't matter either, since it is so cool looking. And you can make it blend in to your home however you like.

[FossilX]

Literally was just about to post this on here but you beat me to it. I think the size is fine, if anything it gives it an artsy aesthetic to it 

[Shack24]

Pretty cool project using handbuilt enclosures and magnetic bellow system

 

Ginormous....yet pretty awesome and clever

 

[RageTester]

That dude gives DIY a whole different meaning... Most of us DIY to save money, he makes premium looking products.

For example I used a freaking nail to attach broken laptop hinge back to the screen and replaced broken plastic cover with plywood that I just had lying around. He would find a way to turn old laptop screen into portable monitor and leave laptop keyboard part detached, thus more lightweight, without looking broken . Having a keyboard as computer is fun enough.

[akio123008]

Although I think this thing is super cool to see and I love the channel, I think there's something wrong with the argument "it's quieter than fans".

 

Let me explain: If you have a fan, and you make it smaller, it has to spin faster. Because it spins faster, it makes more noise.

 

The same thing goes for this device:

On 6/30/2021 at 4:51 PM, Biohazard777 said:

For a lot more compact you'd have to drive that "mover panel" a lot faster... ending up with a lot more noise.

 

The thing is, if you're going to compare this device to a fan, you'd have to take an absolutely massive fan, the same size as this box, spinning at like 100RPM or whatever for a fair comparison. If you compare this thing to one or a few small case fans, that's not really a fair comparison right?

 

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it can't be, I'm genuinely interested to see if it is, I'm just saying it's not been tested yet and it's too early to claim "quieter than fans". So I'd love to see a follow-up where it is compared in a noise test to an array of fans of the same size!

[Jtalk4456]

interesting for sure, but still more novelty than practicality. A bit too much novelty for my taste. What I have found is I'm not staring at the computer when I use it. So spending all this time and effort and money on something that has more look than purpose when i won't typically be looking at it, it just doesn't make much sense to me

[eddieceidde]

6 hours ago, akio123008 said:

The thing is, if you're going to compare this device to a fan, you'd have to take an absolutely massive fan, the same size as this box, spinning at like 100RPM or whatever for a fair comparison. If you compare this thing to one or a few small case fans, that's not really a fair comparison right?

Depends on what you're comparing, size or CFM. He showed that the bellows system is equal to about 4x 140mm noctua fans and you can under volt it to make it slower/quieter. And comparing sound to the noctua fans, we already know noctua fans are great with the tone and loudness but this bellows seems to be producing much nicer tone that's equally as loud as the 4x 140mm noctuas running full speed.

 

He could probably get much quiet results thats still under the thermal limit by moving the bellows slower.

[R0ADK1LL]

I'd like to see LTT do this, but bigger & more ridiculous.

[akio123008]

5 hours ago, Iamfreddie said:

Depends on what you're comparing, size or CFM

No what I mean is, you compare a fan of the same size that is configured such that it produces the same CFM.

 

So that is, the fan is the same size as this machine, and runs at whatever speed is required to achieve the same CFM.

 

Basically the question is, for a given CFM, at the same size, which one is quieter.

[rhine227]

Huge fan of the YouTube channel. Always loving the vids. Would love to see Linus do a blind react to the video of "Building the world's first breathing PC" by diyperks. It's a completely fanless computer case and pretty brilliant build. 

 

https://youtu.be/C3GKe7eXbPE

[da na]

4 minutes ago, rhine227 said:

Huge fan of the YouTube channel. Always loving the vids. Would love to see Linus do a blind react to the video of "Building the world's first breathing PC" by diyperks. It's a completely fanless computer case and pretty brilliant build. 

 

https://youtu.be/C3GKe7eXbPE

Glad for your suggestion!

There's a thread for video suggestions:

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1322697-thread-for-linus-tech-tips-video-suggestions/

[rhine227]

32 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

Glad for your suggestion!

There's a thread for video suggestions:

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1322697-thread-for-linus-tech-tips-video-suggestions/

Sorry, just made the account for suggesting this video. I didn't know ltt had a forum even until now. I looked for what I thought would be the best place to post and I guess I missed that one. Will move it over there and delete this thread if I'm able. Thank you for the link. 

[SetLucas]

Bump on this for a video idea

[SolarNova]

Aye i saw this vid, out of the box thinking for sure and nicely done.

 

Sure it could use optimizations, making it smaller and more powerful, deadening the sound more etc.

 

One thing about the vid itself  I didnt like is he made the mistake ALOT  (as in pritty much all of them) of video makers make. He didnt produce a easily reproducible sound prior to demonstrating the noise level the device makes.

E.G dropping a pencil, arms length away from the mic, on top a desk surface. Such an example would allow all viewers to adjust their volume to match their own reproducible pencil drop test so they can get a more accurate idea of the sound of the device, assuming the device is also recorded from arms length from the mic.

Again though this is a very common oversight.

 

Not sure I would task LTT to mess with the idea tbh, despite their access to alot of tooling, their previous efforts in making similar things have resulted in very jank half arsed results. Each time the excuse being time pressure for the video ...which comes with being company rather than a single person YT channel.

[m_sauce81]

I don't wanna say anything about this thing. I'm giving the link off this video. Just check it out.

DIY Breathing PC 

[N.B. The thermal performance is quite good to be honest]

[da na]

Yeah, that's been posted here several times. It truly is a wonderful machine, and how they pulled it off is truly incredible.

[m_sauce81]

The thermal performance totally stunned me. I didn't even expected the thermals will be that good.

3 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

Yeah, that's been posted here several times. It truly is a wonderful machine, and how they pulled it off is truly incredible.

 

[Murasaki]

dunno how many threads about this have been made so far...

[Spotty]

Merged all the threads posting the DIY perks about the "Breathing PC" together, not including the 83 times it has been posted in the LTT video suggestion asking LTT to copy the idea.

 

Discount Theon from DIY Perks is great and he has some interesting videos that are definitely worth checking out but it gets pretty annoying after the 112th time they get posted to the forum. Just posting a link to a video is not a discussion. If your post was just a link to the video or an article without any other input or discussion it has been removed in the merge. No point having a dozen posts that are nothing but a link to the same video in the same thread.

[Dinky monkey]

https://youtu.be/C3GKe7eXbPE

I saw this channel create a pc by cooling using magnatic cussing power....and it did amazing in cooling 

[Dedayog]

On 7/8/2021 at 9:16 AM, Dinky monkey said:

https://youtu.be/C3GKe7eXbPE

I saw this channel create a pc by cooling using magnatic cussing power....and it did amazing in cooling 

What is this?

 

"magnatic cussing power"