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Does the below look ok/safe for 24/7 OC, I will be gaming mostly and the temp never go past low 70's. I'm more concerned/confused about the Vcore, i have set 1.38 Vcore in the bios for 5.2Ghz, cache ratio 49, LLC 6 and all is stable. I will also be deliding the CPU to try drop 5-10C.

 

FYI, i am running dual 420 rads and a single D5 pump with a 3090FE in the loop. 

 

I'm most confused between VCORE and VID #0-9, which one shows the actual voltage the CPU is receiving? 

 

 

 

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Pretty sure VID is whats 'expected' from the Frequency/Voltage curve thats inbuilt.

Vcore is the live reading on most boards (give or take how good the sensors are or how accurate they are) unless I'm mistaken.

With LLC6 id expect your in the mid-high 1.2s or just into low 1.3s in volts when fully tapping into it...

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1.4v system agent seems really high

as does your VCCIO

 

Normally that's in the sub 1.2v range

 

Do you have a VR VOUT sensor? What's voltage at load?

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High levels of LLC can be dangerous. No idea what "6" is on your MB. IMO never go over the medium setting, you risk potential voltage spikes that make even "safe" settings dangerous. A lot of CPUs have died over the years from "safe" voltage because of LLC. Vdroop is a good thing. No vdroop or worse higher voltage under load is very bad.

 

Your 12v is showing 20v🤣 which is a great example why LLC can be dangerous. Without proper tools and testing, who knows the actual CPU peak voltage. The sensors are only so accurate and rarely show true spikes.

 

Asus loves to throw voltage at everything on auto settings like others have mentioned, check those.

 

Your temps are great for 5.2Ghz, IMO I wouldn't be concerned at all, especially since it's mostly never near 100%.

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1 hour ago, CryingWimp said:

High levels of LLC can be dangerous. No idea what "6" is on your MB. IMO never go over the medium setting, you risk potential voltage spikes that make even "safe" settings dangerous. A lot of CPUs have died over the years from "safe" voltage because of LLC. Vdroop is a good thing. No vdroop or worse higher voltage under load is very bad.

 

Your 12v is showing 20v🤣 which is a great example why LLC can be dangerous. Without proper tools and testing, who knows the actual CPU peak voltage. The sensors are only so accurate and rarely show true spikes.

 

Asus loves to throw voltage at everything on auto settings like others have mentioned, check those.

 

Your temps are great for 5.2Ghz, IMO I wouldn't be concerned at all, especially since it's mostly never near 100%.

6 is medium on the Asus Maximus Formula z490

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2 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

1.4v system agent seems really high

as does your VCCIO

 

Normally that's in the sub 1.2v range

 

Do you have a VR VOUT sensor? What's voltage at load?

 

I have x4 Corsair dominator 3200 sticks clocked at 3800 with 1.48 core voltage, If i was to set the VCCIO and system agent manually, is there a number you might recommend? 

21 minutes ago, noobftw said:

6 is medium on the Asus Maximus Formula z490

Also, my system agent temp is the exact same 1.408 at stock, even with MCE disabled, :/, could that be a bug, or a different setting in the bios.

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I have x4 Corsair dominator 3200 sticks clocked at 3800 with 1.48 core voltage, If i was to set the VCCIO and system agent manually, is there a number you might recommend? 

 
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23 minutes ago, noobftw said:

Also, my system agent temp is the exact same 1.408 at stock, even with MCE disabled, :/, could that be a bug, or a different setting in the bios.

pretty high, default for me on VCCSA is around 1.16v via HWINFO64. I don't think my mobo has a sensor for VCCIO, but iirc it is also set at 1.15.

 

I think 1.2 or under is good as long as it's stable.

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7 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

pretty high, default for me on VCCSA is around 1.16v via HWINFO64. I don't think my mobo has a sensor for VCCIO, but iirc it is also set at 1.15.

 

I think 1.2 or under is good as long as it's stable.

Is this a stupid question, or is the system agent basically just the DRAM Core Voltage, i reverted my RAM to stock and both the VCCIO and system agent dropped to 1.1 and 1.2. Anyway i can maintain the original RAM overclock and try lowering those voltages manually? Failing that i will buy some of that new 2x16 Trident Z Royal Elite 4000Mhz cl 14 stock, would that fix the issue?

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2 hours ago, noobftw said:

 

I have x4 Corsair dominator 3200 sticks clocked at 3800 with 1.48 core voltage, If i was to set the VCCIO and system agent manually, is there a number you might recommend? 

Also, my system agent temp is the exact same 1.408 at stock, even with MCE disabled, :/, could that be a bug, or a different setting in the bios.

the soft limit for everyday use for vccsa/vccio i'd recommend is 1.35v and 1.28v, it's likely you'll only need around 1.25v and 1.2v or less

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2 hours ago, noobftw said:

Is this a stupid question, or is the system agent basically just the DRAM Core Voltage, i reverted my RAM to stock and both the VCCIO and system agent dropped to 1.1 and 1.2. Anyway i can maintain the original RAM overclock and try lowering those voltages manually? Failing that i will buy some of that new 2x16 Trident Z Royal Elite 4000Mhz cl 14 stock, would that fix the issue?

VCCSA: Starting with the second-generation Core i processors (“Sandy Bridge”), the VTT voltage was renamed to VCCSA, and is called “system agent.” It feeds the integrated PCI Express controller, memory controller, and display engine (i.e., the “2D” part of the graphics engine).

 

VCCIO: Available starting with the second-generation Core i CPUs (“Sandy Bridge”), this voltage is used for feeding all input/output (I/O) pins of the CPU, except memory-related pins. On CPUs that have this voltage, it is also used to feed the thermal control bus (PECI, Platform Environmental Control Interface).

 

As to your question about memory speed, when you enable XMP your VCCIO/VCCSA go that high on their own?

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9 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

VCCSA: Starting with the second-generation Core i processors (“Sandy Bridge”), the VTT voltage was renamed to VCCSA, and is called “system agent.” It feeds the integrated PCI Express controller, memory controller, and display engine (i.e., the “2D” part of the graphics engine).

 

VCCIO: Available starting with the second-generation Core i CPUs (“Sandy Bridge”), this voltage is used for feeding all input/output (I/O) pins of the CPU, except memory-related pins. On CPUs that have this voltage, it is also used to feed the thermal control bus (PECI, Platform Environmental Control Interface).

 

As to your question about memory speed, when you enable XMP your VCCIO/VCCSA go that high on their own?

No, as XMP is the stock setting that the RAM is specified at. When i overclocked them to 3800 it shoots the temps right up. I will try the overclock with the volts you recommended. 

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