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Today in Boring News: Samsung Launches the 870 EVO and the MSRP is too High.

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It's a new SATA drive.

 

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Samsung is launching the latest iteration of their mainstream consumer TLC-based SATA SSDs. The new 870 EVO brings the same generational updates to Samsung's 3D NAND and SSD controller that we saw with last year's 870 QVO. The updated EVO SATA SSD arrives three years after the launch of the Samsung 860 EVO and 860 PRO.

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 Launch MSRPs are substantially higher than current street prices for the 860 EVO and are well into NVMe price territory, but we expect the 870 EVO's prices to come down fairly soon given the overall state of the market with a bit of an oversupply for NAND flash memory.

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Yawn.

 

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https://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index/16433?cPage=2&all=False&sort=0&page=1&slug=samsung-introduces-870-evo-sata-ssds

 

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I wonder what sort of improvements can they realistically make when for the most part sata is going to dictate how fast the drives can be. Is there any real performance improvements over the 860? 

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1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

I wonder what sort of improvements can they realistically make when for the most part sata is going to dictate how fast the drives can be. Is there any real performance improvements over the 860? 

The sequential read and write speeds are definitely limited by the SATA interface. Samsung is claiming a 38% percent improvement in que depth 1 random read latency.

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Samsung still hasn't shared what's improved with this generation of controller, but we get a bit of a hint from the fact that they claim the 870 EVO offers a 38% improvement to queue depth 1 random read latency compared to the 860 EVO. Since Samsung has previously shared that their 128L 3D TLC only offers a 10% improvement in raw read latency, it looks like the updated controller may be a bigger factor in the drive's overall performance increase.

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Samsung's claim of 38% better QD1 random read performance also looks to be an exaggeration, but we'll be back later this week with a full analysis of the test results.

 

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-> Moved to Storage Devices

 

@HairlessMonkeyBoy, if you don't think this is interesting, why bother posting it? Right now it lacks personal input (both summary and own thoughts) to be compliant with Tech News guidelines. So it has been moved out. If you think this news is interesting enough for put some more effort, please do edit and report this post. Otherwise, I would advice you don't post news that aren't interesting for you.

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On 1/19/2021 at 7:39 PM, Downkey said:

ah yes, a new ssd no one will buy. fun.

 

 

On 1/19/2021 at 7:55 PM, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

The sequential read and write speeds are definitely limited by the SATA interface. Samsung is claiming a 38% percent improvement in que depth 1 random read latency.

 

 

 

2.5 inch SSD's are plenty fast, m2 etc are barely more than (really expensive) snake oil. 

 

On 1/19/2021 at 7:46 PM, Taf the Ghost said:

So cheap 860 EVOs for a bit? Good time to grab them.

they already are really cheap... mine cost about half of what my 850 was... 🙂

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