why doesn't Intel just upgrade from the 14nm?

[mechanical keyboard]

Why?

[thDel]

1 minute ago, mechanical keyboard said:

Why?

Bc they have manufacturing and rnd for 14nm very mature. So it is ez for them to stay and just choke the last bits of performance out of 14nm

[Moonzy]

Because there's technical difficulties that prevent them from doing it

 

This reminds me of this meme

Spoiler

 

[mechanical keyboard]

lol thanks, I asked that question bc I am planning on building a system. Naturally I would go AMD (3600) however they are sold out. Soo, Intel?

[Vishera]

Their 10nm technology is not ready for production in the scale that Intel require,so it's currently featured on laptops but not on desktops.

[mechanical keyboard]

thanks guys, tbh I was not expecting a response this fast

 

[xg32]

10nm yields suck, 7nm is probably still broken, plus they are deciding if they wanna outsource their 7nm right now, probably the worst position intel's ever been in, but they'll likely come out ok in 2-3 years.

[Fasauceome]

12 minutes ago, mechanical keyboard said:

lol thanks, I asked that question bc I am planning on building a system. Naturally I would go AMD (3600) however they are sold out. Soo, Intel?

make sure you use the quote button so people can see your responses

 

Intel has processors on the market so if you need to buy a computer now, it's the only decent option, unless your budget was gonna include a ryzen 7 3700X and a budget B450 motherboard which would still offer some nice value.

[Moonzy]

14 minutes ago, mechanical keyboard said:

lol thanks, I asked that question bc I am planning on building a system. Naturally I would go AMD (3600) however they are sold out. Soo, Intel?

nm is just marketing and shouldn't be factored into your buying decision at all

 

Intel chips aren't bad, look at benchmarks and availability, then decide for yourselves

[mechanical keyboard]

Thanks, after doing so CPU research and PCPartsPicker list building here is what I have came too,

CPU- 

Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor- went with LGA 1200 for Rocket lake (if it is good)

CPU cooler- 

Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM 97 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

Mobo- 

Gigabyte Z490 AORUS ELITE AC ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

RAM-

G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

Storage-

Seagate FireCuda 1 TB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive

Corsair MP600 Force Series Gen4 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

GPU-

MSI GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB GAMING X Video Card

Case- 

Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case

PSU- 

NZXT C 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Extra fans- Corsair iCUE SP140 RGB Pro 62 CFM 140 mm Fans 2-Pack

Monitor-

MSI Optix G271 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor

Keyboard- 

Logitech G213 PRODIGY RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard

mouse-

Corsair HARPOON RGB PRO Wired Optical Mouse

Notes- going for RGB

- bang for buck

-Total USD 

$1370.37

 

please feel free to recommend any changes

also an LTT Desk pad ( they look good)

 

 

[mechanical keyboard]

I plan on doing some gaming on this, COD, CS GO, and other common games

[Dr0y]

check the price for 3200 cl14 or 3600 cl16 ... it will be a tad faster and if you can afford it might be worth the price difference.  Besides that it's the kind of build I was considering before black friday ... would have gone for the z490 tomahawk which had 100 off the normal price. 

 

That 1650 super is really entry level and not suited for a build that powerful ... is it just a place holder until better gpu becomes available ?

[mechanical keyboard]

34 minutes ago, Dr0y said:

check the price for 3200 cl14 or 3600 cl16 ... it will be a tad faster and if you can afford it might be worth the price difference.  Besides that it's the kind of build I was considering before black friday ... would have gone for the z490 tomahawk which had 100 off the normal price. 

 

That 1650 super is really entry level and not suited for a build that powerful ... is it just a place holder until better gpu becomes available ?

Yes the 1650 super is a for-now GPU, plan plan on upgrading sometime down the line to a 3060 Ti, also a Rocket Lake CPU

*edits to the list*

Intel Core i5-10600KF because its cheaper and I dont need crappy on-board graphics

[mechanical keyboard]

I will look into the the CAS latency, thankyou for the tip

[OC-Destroyer]

2 hours ago, mechanical keyboard said:

lol thanks, I asked that question bc I am planning on building a system. Naturally I would go AMD (3600) however they are sold out. Soo, Intel?

not worth it just wait a few months if you can and stock should be normalized not like your getting a GPU right now

[Dr0y]

Having onboard graphics can always be usefull for diagnostic purpose if something goes wrong. 

[Moonzy]

6 hours ago, mechanical keyboard said:

Intel Core i5-10600KF because its cheaper and I dont need crappy on-board graphics

If it's only $5 cheaper or smth, I would grab one with graphics because

1) you may use the video out from motherboard (I do)

2) it's good for diagnosing issues

[mechanical keyboard]

Ok I will look into the K vs KF. thanks

4 hours ago, Moonzy said:

If it's only $5 cheaper or smth, I would grab one with graphics because

1) you may use the video out from motherboard (I do)

2) it's good for diagnosing issues

 

[mechanical keyboard]

Ok, I have noticed that the I5 10600K runs hot. Is a 240 rad enough?

[Vishera]

On 12/14/2020 at 4:10 PM, mechanical keyboard said:

Ok, I have noticed that the I5 10600K runs hot. Is a 240 rad enough?

Yes,but i prefer to use the NH-D15s instead with a 120mm fan in addition to the included 140mm fan.

On 12/14/2020 at 1:32 AM, mechanical keyboard said:

$1370.37

Really bad value.