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Multi-core/threaded gaming

So, my buddy and I are in a perpetual argument. Him - A lot more games are using six or eight cores and up to sixteen threads now. So, higher core count is getting really important

Me - I know Battlefield does, but I can't find any sort of list to confirm your claims, and don't really see much usage above 4c/8t in my games besides Battlefield.

 

Can anyone give some insight please?

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1 minute ago, KageSong said:

So, my buddy and I are in a perpetual argument. Him - A lot more games are using six or eight cores and up to sixteen threads now. So, higher core count is getting really important

Me - I know Battlefield does, but I can't find any sort of list to confirm your claims, and don't really see much usage above 4c/8t in my games besides Battlefield.

 

Can anyone give some insight please?

Games are gaining preformance form more cores but higher singel core preformance is still more important,

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Generally speaking almost every triple A game engine (that has been updated in the last 2 years) attempts to utilize atleast 8 threads. Most older games will not benefit from higher thread counts at all, so single threaded performance will still matter with games using shitty game engines or older ones (like every other assasins creed game). So simply, single threaded performance is still as important as number of threads.

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Most games will get the most benefit from Six Cores. A few will take advantage of Eight Cores or more.

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Just now, Levent said:

Generally speaking almost every triple A game engine (that has been updated in the last 2 years) attempts to utilize atleast 8 threads. Older games will not benefit from higher thread counts at all, so single threaded performance will still matter with games using shitty game engines or older ones (like every other assasins creed game). So simply, single threaded performance is still as important as number of threads.

Threads yes, but that's still 4c/8t. My buddy is claiming a bunch of games are using 8 cores and 16 thread.

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4 minutes ago, KageSong said:

Can anyone give some insight please?

The first thing to pop into my mind is basically all, big turn-based strategy-games -- I happen to enjoy those -- love multiple loves, and higher core-count quickly becomes more and more useful as the game progresses and there's constantly more and more for the CPU to calculate. Think of e.g. Civilization 6 and the likes.

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8 minutes ago, KageSong said:

Can anyone give some insight please?

just look at what majority of the people have

 

if majority of people still have 4-6 cores, game dev will develop games to run well on those platforms

 

meanwhile MHW laughs in 50% CPU usage on my 3900x, using all 24 threads

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As far as I know games usually don't differentiate between actual cores and hyperthreads. Most games use 6-8 threads, but some games (mostly DX12 games) can use 16 threads. 

IDK if they use more; I don't have more.

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Depends on the game, I'm mostly playing MHW and that seems to love to use many cores as possible, probably also why I can't use OBS cpu recording... although I'd be reluctant to use a ingame recording software that doesn't have an ingame overlay anyhow tbh... 

 

Actually I'm trying to look out for games that use multi-core well because I don't want to support outdated tech, on the other hand I'll just try to hold out for MHW2 / Rise anyway ... not really interested in a lot of current games tbh (because they aren't MH :kappa) 

 

in any case:

low cores / threads usage = outdated 

 

multi-threading = will see more of it in the future because it's just more efficient 

 

 

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I usually run 2 gaming computers and most of the time they have different core counts.

 

In 2018 I used a i7 6700k(4 core) and a i7 8700k(6 core). Open world games felt like going down a bumpy road with the i7 6700k and the i7 8700k was silky smooth. Both had decent frame rate. The i7 6700k had to go and was replaced by a i7 8086k(6 core). 

 

Now I run a i7 8086k and a i9 10900k.  All my games are migrating to the i9 10900k because they run better. It is not a big jump like going from a i7 6700k to a i7 8700k but it is enough. 

 

Next year the i7 8086k will be replaced and it won't be with another 6 core.

 

 

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-> Moved to PC Gaming

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Frankly, your buddy is probably just trying to justify buying new hardware he actually doesn't need.

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4 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

-> Moved to PC Gaming

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Frankly, your buddy is probably just trying to justify buying new hardware he actually doesn't need.

Actually, he's using it to justify trying to talk me into using lower clocked, older, cheaper Xeons as an alternative to current/recent gen architecture.

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50 minutes ago, KageSong said:

Actually, he's using it to justify trying to talk me into using lower clocked, older, cheaper Xeons as an alternative to current/recent gen architecture.

Firstly, buy or build a PC for your budget and not his opinions. Second, buy or build a PC based on the things you want to do such as streaming, video editing, photo editing, graphic design etc etc, and yes gaming. Thirdly, build or buy a PC for the type of games you want to play. 

 

Other than your friends opinions you have provided little info on your needs. 

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It depends on the game but generally it's a combination of both multi-threaded and single threaded workload.

Single core performance is more important in gaming than multi core,but if you don't have enough cores performance will suck.

The sweet spot now days is 6 cores/12 threads,so the 3600X/8700K/10600K/5600X are all great options (the 2600 is just fine because it's lacking in single core performance).

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3 hours ago, PurplDrank said:

Firstly, buy or build a PC for your budget and not his opinions. Second, buy or build a PC based on the things you want to do such as streaming, video editing, photo editing, graphic design etc etc, and yes gaming. Thirdly, build or buy a PC for the type of games you want to play. 

 

Other than your friends opinions you have provided little info on your needs. 

No needs. Just curious on people's takes. I have my streaming machine. 3600 w/ a 2060 super.

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