Trudeau government promises to connect 98% of Canadians to high-speed internet by 2026

[DailyProcrastinator]

Justin! I need some internet over here!

[dizmo]

3 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

DSL is often literally phone wire, or used to be. A variant of T1.  DSL frequently includes landline phone.  Problems with use of old phone wire were already pointed out though. Poles are a continuous maintenance  thing.  Brush has to be cut, etc..  lower initial cost higher continuing cost. 

Yes. And most of these places already have telephone poles. So no, there's no additional maintenance fees, they're already there.

I really don't understand why you find this so hard to understand.

2 hours ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Justin! I need some internet over here!

You must live in the boons

[Bombastinator]

38 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Yes. And most of these places already have telephone poles. So no, there's no additional maintenance fees, they're already there.

I really don't understand why you find this so hard to understand.

You must live in the boons

Wait... you make the argument that my statement was bad because the telephone poles had phone wires on them but didnt necessarily have DSL wires on them, then after I point out that as far as I knew DSL wires and phone wires were (mostly more or less nod to @wkdpaul) phone wires.  Then you say I’m wrong because you ... knew I was right?  

[dizmo]

14 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Wait... you make the argument that my statement was bad because the telephone poles had phone wires on them but didnt necessarily have DSL wires on them, then after I point out that as far as I knew DSL wires and phone wires were (mostly more or less nod to @wkdpaul) phone wires.  Then you say I’m wrong because you ... knew I was right?  

No, you seem to be implying that it'll be additional cost to put the poles into place. It's not. They're already there. They're already paying the maintenance on those poles.

[Bombastinator]

15 minutes ago, dizmo said:

No, you seem to be implying that it'll be additional cost to put the poles into place. It's not. They're already there. They're already paying the maintenance on those poles.

Ah.  That part @wkdpaul pointed out.  Apparently the problem with the concept is while DSL can be done with phone wire, there are problems.  Partially having to do with rain. 
 

My reply was that it seemed they were Problems significant enough that poles may not work everywhere.  Especially on really long runs.  It was stuff I actually knew about and had forgotten because it happened in the Obama administration. 
 

Personally I’m not especially concerned about the Canadian government screwing it up too badly.  There was an American attempt at a somewhat similar thing in the early 2000’s to look at and Canada doesn’t have the kinds of problems the US does atm. Number does seem a tad low to me is all.  I suspect there will be a continuation if not an actual overrun.

 

Hopefully the US can take the information Canada generates with its move and try it again in the US with better results.

Edited November 11, 2020 by Bombastinator

[WindirBear]

I believe the american capitalistic system will prevail. Just wait guys. Tmobile is launching a home internet service that utilizing 4g towers to provide internet in your home. Also, elon musk has something going on or something.

[Bombastinator]

5 minutes ago, WindirBear said:

I believe the american capitalistic system will prevail. Just wait guys. Tmobile is launching a home internet service that utilizing 4g towers to provide internet in your home. Also, elon musk has something going on or something.

They’re both capitalistic systems.  There basically aren’t any non capitalistic systems left.  One or two southeast Asian nations (which does not include china) and perhaps Cuba, though I’m not too sure about that one.  Marxism and planned economies more or less died in the 90’s.  
t-mobile is a multi-national and is American only by birth.  Musk is building factories all over the world. There are gigafactories going up in Germany and China and the only one he’s got in America isn’t even finished.   The US and Canada do get first crack at the star link beta though.