Wait for RTX 3080 for G-Sync or just buy RX 6800 RT?

[Actual_Criminal]

I have a 240Hz G-Sync 1ms monitor and I thought the purpose of G-Sync is that it allows you to play at really high refresh rates without tearing. - I needed a new GPU so was going to buy an RTX 3080 but out of stock everywhere.

 

I have never had an AMD graphics card before, so thinking of buying the RX 6800 RT instead as it's:

-Cheaper

-Will be in stock (main reason)

-Will pair well with my planned 5950X

 

The only thing putting me off is that I won't be able to use G-Sync. I instead get to use 'AMD's Freesync' but I have no idea how this works other than it's similar but inferior to G-Sync... I just want to play competitive games at super high-refresh rates and low input lag (1ms) how will AMD's Freesync affect this as G-Sync had little to no lag.

[Fasauceome]

what model of monitor do you have

[Actual_Criminal]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

what model of monitor do you have

I'll be buying a Samsung G7 Odyssey soon.

[Mark Kaine]

10 minutes ago, Actual_Criminal said:

AMD's Freesync'

Most Gsync monitors are not compatible with that. 

 

Edit: I see the one you want to buy is tho. 

 

10 minutes ago, Actual_Criminal said:

input lag (1ms

Physically impossible, lowest input lag measured ever was like 5 or 6ms and I doubt you have the right hardware for that (not only but especially for measuring) 

 

 

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Actual_Criminal said:

I'll be buying a Samsung G7 Odyssey soon.

compatible

 

https://hothardware.com/news/samsung-odyssey-g9-g7-240hz-gaming-monitors-preorder

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The 49-inch model also touts a 5120x1440 resolution. It is built for gaming with a fast 240Hz refresh rate and low 1ms response time (gray-to-gray), along with being a FreeSync Premium Pro monitor that is G-Sync Compatible to boot.

so the monitor has Freesync, and it is marketed as "Gsync compatible" which means it's up to nvidia's standards of vrr as well.

[Actual_Criminal]

5 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Most Gsync monitors are not compatible with that. 

 

Edit: I see the one you want to buy is tho. 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

compatible

 

https://hothardware.com/news/samsung-odyssey-g9-g7-240hz-gaming-monitors-preorder

so the monitor has Freesync, and it is marketed as "Gsync compatible" which means it's up to nvidia's standards of vrr as well.

 

Yes but even if it has Freesync, what does this actually mean??? It's still inferior to G-Sync though and I need an Nvidia graphics card right?

[Actual_Criminal]

4 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

/news/samsung-odyssey-g9-g7-240hz-gaming-monitors-preorder

so the monitor has Freesync, and it is marketed as "Gsync compatible" which means it's up to nvidia's standards of vrr as well.

Also, i'll be buying the 1440p G7 model, not the 49' G9.

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Actual_Criminal said:

 

Yes but even if it has Freesync, what does this actually mean??? It's still inferior to G-Sync though and I need an Nvidia graphics card right?

why do you think it is inferior to G sync? and why do you think you need an nvidia GPU to use freesync?

Just now, Actual_Criminal said:

Also, i'll be buying the 1440p G7 model, not the 49' G9.

I believe they use the same.

[Actual_Criminal]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

why do you think it is inferior to G sync?

I have heard that AMD's FreeSync causes drastically more lag on games than G-Sync. - This is a big no for me playing FPS games.

 

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

and why do you think you need an nvidia GPU to use freesync?

No, I mean I need an Nvidia GPU to use G-Sync.

[Fasauceome]

8 minutes ago, Actual_Criminal said:

No, I mean I need an Nvidia GPU to use G-Sync.

when a monitor uses Freesync and is denoted as "Gsync compatible," that means it is up to the Gsync standard and works with both Nvidia and AMD cards by default.

 

Currently using a Gsync compatible Freesync monitor for my gaming rig.

[Mark Kaine]

38 minutes ago, Actual_Criminal said:

Yes but even if it has Freesync, what does this actually mean??? It's still inferior to G-Sync though and I need an Nvidia graphics card right?

It works with Freesync and Gsync, that's actually the best option because in case you got sick of AMD want to change GPU brands you don't need to buy a new monitor. 

 

 

Note: I have no idea how good this monitor is 

 

PS: now I do, obviously not very 

 

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Samsung's Odyssey G7 should be the ultimate gaming monitor, but its G-Sync flickering issue holds it back.”

 

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Excellent color reproduction

Beautiful design

Great curve for gaming immersion

Fast 240Hz refresh rate

 

Broken adaptive sync

Low static contrast performance

Curve off-center

Would get this for under 50 bucks maybe otherwise hell no. 

[Actual_Criminal]

6 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

It works with Freesync and Gsync, that's actually the best option because in case you got sick of AMD want to change GPU brands you don't need to buy a new monitor. 

 

 

Note: I have no idea how good this monitor is 

 

PS: now I do, obviously not very 

 

 

Would get this for under 50 bucks maybe otherwise hell no. 

The monitor has tons of positive reviews from what i've seen. - it's the G9 with issues.

[Mark Kaine]

3 minutes ago, Actual_Criminal said:

The monitor has tons of positive reviews from what i've seen. - it's the G9 with issues.

That very clearly says G7 tho. 

 

Especially if you care about Gsync / freesync this is a really bad choice when you already know beforehand hand it's *broken*

 

I would never get this monitor. 

 

Unless for 50 to laugh at it...

[Actual_Criminal]

19 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

That very clearly says G7 tho. 

 

Especially if you care about Gsync / freesync this is a really bad choice when you already know beforehand hand it's *broken*

 

I would never get this monitor. 

 

Unless for 50 to laugh at it...

Just did some quick search and literally tons of review are positive. A lot less negative than positive... Hell even Linus has done a positive review of the monitor! 

 

The Samsung Odyssey G7 is amazing for gaming. It has a native 240Hz refresh rate, FreeSync support, and it's compatible with NVIDIA's G-SYNC. The response time at its max refresh rate and at 60Hz are both outstanding, resulting in minimal blur. Its narrow viewing angles make it less ideal for co-op gaming, but luckily, it displays deep blacks if you want to game in the dark. We received reports of the backlight flickering with VRR enabled, but we didn't notice any flicker; rather the screen dims when a certain image is displayed full-screen.

PROS

• Outstanding response time.
• Native FreeSync support and it's G-SYNC compatible.
• Great contrast ratio.
• Incredibly low input lag.

CONS

• Narrow viewing angles.

 

I guess it shouldn't really matter for you though as you only have a GTX 1060. Take your salt elsewhere lol.

[Mark Kaine]

8 minutes ago, Actual_Criminal said:

A lot more negative than positive

 

8 minutes ago, Actual_Criminal said:

Take your salt elsewhere lol.

Lmfao, good luck... I guess. 

[Ankerson]

1 hour ago, Actual_Criminal said:

I have a 240Hz G-Sync 1ms monitor and I thought the purpose of G-Sync is that it allows you to play at really high refresh rates without tearing. - I needed a new GPU so was going to buy an RTX 3080 but out of stock everywhere.

 

I have never had an AMD graphics card before, so thinking of buying the RX 6800 RT instead as it's:

-Cheaper

-Will be in stock (main reason)

-Will pair well with my planned 5950X

 

The only thing putting me off is that I won't be able to use G-Sync. I instead get to use 'AMD's Freesync' but I have no idea how this works other than it's similar but inferior to G-Sync... I just want to play competitive games at super high-refresh rates and low input lag (1ms) how will AMD's Freesync affect this as G-Sync had little to no lag.

 

 

Here is what ASUS says about it. https://www.asus.com/US/support/FAQ/1039463

 

 

1. G-SYNC/G-SYNC Compatible/G-SYNC Ultimate Functional comparison:

G-SYNC : Delivers an amazing experience with no tearing, stutter, or input lag. Enthusiasts and pro-level gamers can count on unique technologies like a full variable refresh rate (VRR) range and variable overdrive to eliminate visual artifacts for a pristine image and outstanding gameplay.

G-SYNC Compatible : Doesn’t use NVIDIA processors, but have been validated by NVIDIA to give you a good, basic variable refresh rate (VRR) experience for tear-free, stutter-free gaming experience.

G-SYNC Ultimate : Features the latest NVIDIA G-SYNC processors to deliver the best HDR gaming experience. They’re loaded with all the advanced features you’re looking for - including over 1000 nits brightness, stunning contrast, cinematic color, and ultra-low latency gameplay.

[i_build_nanosuits]

2 hours ago, Actual_Criminal said:

 

Yes but even if it has Freesync, what does this actually mean??? It's still inferior to G-Sync though and I need an Nvidia graphics card right?

it used to be but it has had a lot of upgrades since and now with a higher end high refresh rate display it's basically the same...i would wait for reviewers to confirm that it's at least on par with the 3080 in most games and then i would get the AMD card if on stock.

 

I can't do that cause personally my monitor is a Gsync only monitor with the actual Gsync module in it...so it's THE BEST still BUT it can't drive variable refresh rate with an AMD GPU and never will. So for that alone Freesync is BETTER than Gsync.

 

2 hours ago, Actual_Criminal said:

I have heard that AMD's FreeSync causes drastically more lag on games than G-Sync. - This is a big no for me playing FPS games.

no, that's complete BS, both are just fine.