NVIDIA GPU Upgrade for a 5 year old system. With a 6600K in it.

[DennyPhantom]

I've been upgrading my current PC that i got as a Pre-build back in early 2016 now that i have some coin to spend. 

Added 8 more gigs of RAM | 1TB NVMe SSD | CPU cooler | And a botched 2TB Seagate hard drive...(Its at 18k+ Reallocated sectors after a year...never again seagate...never again..)

And now i wanna upgrade my GPU, from a 960 2Gig.

My question is:
What is the best GPU i can put into my system, before adding a better one becomes mute, due to the CPU?

Note: I'm only interested in NVIDIA GPUs because i use GeForce Experience/ShadowPlay

PS: Would Overclocking the CPU elevate the ceiling of when the CPU will start choking the GPU?

I have tried to OC the CPU before.. but it never resulted it better FPS so i abandoned it, and now run it stock.




 

[jaslion]

Well the thing is that no matter how fast you make your cpu with a oc it's never gonna get past the fact it is a quad core. So you will be limited no matter what.

[Ankerson]

Well you are playing at 1080P..

 

With an older machine.

 

So something like a RTX 2060 or 2070.

 

Also you need to get a new PSU, the one you have is VERY outdated and should have been replaced awhile ago.

 

Like 5 years ago.

[DennyPhantom]

Just now, Ankerson said:

Well you are playing at 1080P..

 

With an older machine.

 

So something like a RTX 2060 or 2070.

 

Also you need to get a new PSU, the one you have is VERY outdated and should have been replaced awhile ago.

Aye, the PSU would 100% need to be upgraded. 
Most likely with a "Fractal Design Ion+". 

What about if i were to use a 1440p Monitor? And would the CPU be able to even run at that resolution...also over 60 FPS

[Ankerson]

2 minutes ago, DennyPhantom said:

Aye, the PSU would 100% need to be upgraded. 
Most likely with a "Fractal Design Ion+". 

What about if i were to use a 1440p Monitor? And would the CPU be able to even run at that resolution...also over 60 FPS

 

Well, it's a 4 core CPU so....

 

I wouldn't expect too much out of it FPS wise...

 

But you could go with a 2080 and it should be OK depending on the game and settings.

[DennyPhantom]

Just now, Ankerson said:

 

Well, it's a 4 core CPU so....

 

I wouldn't expect too much out of it FPS wise...

 

But you could go with a 2080 and it should be OK.

I see, good to know. 
Thanks!

[Teddy07]

Donˋt know why people hate quad cores. They are still more than enough especially for 1080p. Higher resolutions need adjustments but still very playable. I would probably not go higher than a rtx 2070 or AMD equivalent.

 

My sister had a 6600k until upgrade to 7700k. 

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, Teddy07 said:

Donˋt know why people hate quad cores. They are still more than enough especially for 1080p. Higher resolutions need adjustments but still very playable. I would probably not go higher than a rtx 2070 or AMD equivalent.

 

My sister had a 6600k until upgrade to 7700k. 

Pure quadcores stutter in basically any new game hence why I'm not that big about a gpu upgrade,

[Teddy07]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

Pure quadcores stutter in basically any new game hence why I'm not that big about a gpu upgrade,

I disagree here. 60 fps is possible in any game with decent settings. 

[jaslion]

Just now, Teddy07 said:

I disagree here. 60 fps is possible in any game with decent settings. 

That is not what I mean with stutters. 60fps is totally possible no problem but what the quad core i5's have is that they just stutter from a little to a lot which really makes gaming just a bad experience.

[Energycore]

You -could- also spend some money on a used i7 6700K or even 7700K (IIRC Z170 still supports the next gen of CPUs, I could be wrong).

 

Looks like they're going for about $150. That's really not that bad.

 

Your gaming performance in recent titles will increase significantly because of Hyperthreading if you do buy one.

[DennyPhantom]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

That is not what I mean with stutters. 60fps is totally possible no problem but what the quad core i5's have is that they just stutter from a little to a lot which really makes gaming just a bad experience.

Would higher clocks lower the stutters?

 

 

[jaslion]

Just now, DennyPhantom said:

Would higher clocks lower the stutters?

 

 

Little it really just has to do with having too little cores/threads more than single core performance.

[Teddy07]

Just now, DennyPhantom said:

Would higher clocks lower the stutters?

 

 

Good chance to at least reduce it. Crank oc up to max

[DennyPhantom]

5 minutes ago, Energycore said:

You -could- also spend some money on a used i7 6700K or even 7700K (IIRC Z170 still supports the next gen of CPUs, I could be wrong).

 

Looks like they're going for about $150. That's really not that bad.

 

Your gaming performance in recent titles will increase significantly because of Hyperthreading if you do buy one.

I have looked into that, but it needs a BIOS update. 
And, i have fairly unstable power. So i have a fairly high chance that the power will go out during the update. 
And i have no idea what UPS to get. 

[dizmo]

37 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Pure quadcores stutter in basically any new game hence why I'm not that big about a gpu upgrade,

lol no they don't.

[jaslion]

Just now, dizmo said:

lol no they don't.

They do?

[dizmo]

Just now, jaslion said:

They do?

Odd. I had a 7600k, and experienced...no stuttering in new games

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Odd. I had a 7600k, and experienced...no stuttering in new games

When? 6600k big oc stuttery mess in most.

[dizmo]

2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

When? 6600k big oc stuttery mess in most.

Up until 2 months ago.

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Up until 2 months ago.

Odd my friends one is just a mess for any aaa shooter basically and some others.

[Energycore]

1 hour ago, DennyPhantom said:

I have looked into that, but it needs a BIOS update. 
And, i have fairly unstable power. So i have a fairly high chance that the power will go out during the update. 
And i have no idea what UPS to get. 

Something you can do is take your PC to a repair shop, and some shops will update your BIOS for free (don't pay more than a couple bucks though because it's really easy to do).

 

Either way you'll want to replace your PSU first.

[DennyPhantom]

30 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Something you can do is take your PC to a repair shop, and some shops will update your BIOS for free (don't pay more than a couple bucks though because it's really easy to do).

 

Either way you'll want to replace your PSU first.

"take your PC to a repair shop" That reminds me.


A bit ago, i had an issue with the PC, and i sent it to a PC repair shop..

So i just checked my BIOS version, and.. Its not listed under the SUPPORT section of my MB on MSIs site.
But it is listed HERE, which is titled "MSI Releases BIOS Updates To Address Recent Vulnerabilities"

Current BIOS ver is: E7971IMS.AF0
BIOS Build Date 10/05/2017 

And the BIOS that says (On the MSI site, under the SUPPORT tab of my MB) "-  Supported next generation new Intel CPU." under it, was released "2016-10-18"

So.. i think i should be golden right? If i do end up getting a 6700K or a 7700K

[Ankerson]

There are, could be some problems with using a 60Hz Monitor at 1080P with a current high end GPU.

 

Shuddering and or screen tearing could be a real problem.

 

Limit the frame rate to 60FPS and it will help, but negate the new GPU's performance increase.

 

Just about any newer GPU will do 60 FPS at 1080P, and that's not even the higher end ones.

 

At 1440P things change quite a bit as it puts more on the GPU taking some stress of the CPU.

 

At 4K it's even better as it's almost all GPU driven, not exactly a bad thing. Works in the slower CPUs favor.

 

But you would pay some real money for a 4K monitor and GPU to drive it at 4K.

 

I personally Like 1440P.

 

I can play at 4K if I want, I could just plug my PC into the Samsung Q90T 4K TV and have at it. 120Hz 4K panel.