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If AMD bankrupted and Ryzen never made it to the market, do you think Intel would still offer only 4 cores in mainstream?

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We can safely assume that the move from 2 to 4 cores for i3 and from 4 to 6 cores for i5 and i7 that happened with 8th gen was reaction to AMD's superior mainstream multicore performance. What do you think would have happened if AMD, instead of Ryzen, would have continued with the terrible FX lineup (so not being competitive) or bankrupted (or simply took 4-5 more years to come with Ryzen)? Do you think intel would continue to offer dual core i3 with HT, quad core i5 without HT, quad core i7 with HT? Do you think they would come up with something like mainstream i9 that would offer 6 cores with HT for mere 599 dollars? Let's use the fantasy and look into the alternate universe! I am curious about your opinions!

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1 minute ago, chnapo said:

We can safely assume that the move from 2 to 4 cores for i3 and from 4 to 6 cores for i5 and i7 that happened with 8th gen was reaction to AMD's superior mainstream multicore performance. What do you think would have happened if AMD, instead of Ryzen, would have continued with the terrible FX lineup (so not being competitive) or bankrupted (or simply took 4-5 more years to come with Ryzen)? Do you think intel would continue to offer dual core i3 with HT, quad core i5 without HT, quad core i7 with HT? Do you think they would come up with something like mainstream i9 that would offer 6 cores with HT for mere 599 dollars? Let's use the fantasy and look into the alternate universe! I am curious about your opinions!

Eventually the pressure from ARM would have gotten a lot more intense, but I don't think they would have offered too much more performance. Maybe Hexa-Core i7s with HT, Hexa-Core i5s without by now.

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Definitely not. While competition drives innovation, innovation will come along eventually (and arm would probably have had some effect eventually). 

However AMD has stimulated intel into increasing core counts quicker than they probably would have without AMD.

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Intel said that their plans for 6 core and 8 core coffee lake were set already, but I'm not sure I believe them.

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Definitely. Why else you think the new NVIDIA cards are such garbage?

Unless forced these companies never release new tech and performance improvements.

Do you guys all acually understand that these are "real" companies and not a bunch of fat geeks? They will keep as much performance hidden away from us as long as they can because it secures them profit in the future.

Imagine Intel gave us their best chips which are 300% better. What will they do in the year after? Tell us that they couldn't come up with anything better and hope that we understand? How they gonna hit their yearly targets ?

Or they can increase performance by 25% every year and sit on their asses and still be market leader.

NVIDIA is doing this right now. Just wait for the AMD announcement in a month and you will see NVIDIA out of the blue announcing new cards if AMD turns out to be any good.

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Just to mention, the 9100f and 7400 are almost the same CPU. Intel didnt try to make better CPUs when there was no compitition. 

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Definitely. Why else you think the new NVIDIA cards are such garbage?

30xx is hot garbage?

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without AMD intel would likely have 4 core 8 thead cpust. mayby 6c/6t at the best (for normal desktop, of course they have their -x series cpus with higher core count for workload etc)

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1 hour ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

Just to mention, the 9100f and 7400 are almost the same CPU. Intel didnt try to make better CPUs when there was no compitition. 

30xx is hot garbage?

Nobody knows because nobody has them

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Just now, Mister Woof said:

Nobody knows because nobody has them

Ummm.... People have them. Atleast 3080's. The 3090 looks to be hot garbage, but duh.

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43 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

Ummm.... (very few) People have them. Atleast 3080's. The 3090 looks to be hot garbage, but duh.

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Doubtful. 4 cores are garbage and haven’t been good for years. 

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