Crucial P1 seems faster than 970 EVO

[jones177]

I recently built a i9 10900k rig using a ASUS Hero XII board(Z490). I bought a Crucial P1 NVMe for it because I was not impressed with my 2tb 970 EVO on my i7 8086k setup with a Hero X board(Z370).

In Windows boots and especially load doors on games the P1 is much faster.

As an example, Fallout 4 that has some load doors taking around 45 seconds with the 970 EVO but takes less than 10 seconds with the P1.

It is at the point were I don't even what to play on the older setup.  

 

Both SSDs hit the right numbers on Crystaldiskmark so their performance is not the issue. It is something external.

 

The i9 is only slightly faster than the i7 in games but it has 4 more cores. The Z370s act the same as my Z390s when it comes to SSDs so is there anything in the Z490 that would make the SSDs perform better? 

 

This is all a big mystery to me since like most I mainly research GPUs and CPUs. 

 

[SupaKomputa]

Theoretically speaking P1 is not faster than 970.

A new SSD may feel faster than an old SSD if the old one has little space left.

For gaming difference between SSD will not be noticable, even with sata SSD.

[Fasauceome]

Same thing with my PC and my brothers, I tend to accumulate crap on my boot drive that needs to be cleaned out periodically, sometimes his dram-less SATA SSD is noticably much faster than my Corsair force MP500

 

Generally once you start using an SSD, the perceived speed and usage is nearly identical at the baseline, from cheap to expensive.

Edited September 4, 2020 by Fasauceome

[SupaKomputa]

From this test, you can see that Sata SSD which is 1/10 slower is not noticeably slower than a nvme.

Nvme is good if you transfer big continuous files, not for smaller pieces like loading a game.

[jones177]

10 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Theoretically speaking P1 is not faster than 970.

A new SSD may feel faster than an old SSD if the old one has little space left.

For gaming difference between SSD will not be noticable, even with sata SSD.

The EVO has 463gbs free.

 

Here is the Crystaldiskmark info I got today.

[jones177]

3 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

From this test, you can see that Sata SSD which is 1/10 slower is not noticeably slower than a nvme.

Nvme is good if you transfer big continuous files, not for smaller pieces like loading a game.

I have SATA SSDs and they are about the same in games.

That is why one of my gaming computers still uses 2.5" SATA SSDs. No real point in updating for games.

 

The EVO is for my modded games that use 8k textures. They stutter a lot on the SATA but not on the EVO. The P1 performs well at this as well so it has been a big success.

 

It is the load times and load doors that have me baffled.

 

[jones177]

21 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Same thing with my PC and my brothers, I tend to accumulate crap on my boot drive that needs to be cleaned out periodically, sometimes his dram-less SATA SSD is noticably much faster than my Corsair force MP500

 

Generally once you start using an SSD, the perceived speed and usage is nearly identical at the baseline, from cheap to expensive.

The EVO is a bit slower than it was but still a lot faster than the P1.

Here is the EVO in 2019.

 

Here is the P1 today.

 

I think I found the answer. In one area the P1 does do better than the EVO. Random 4k is a lot higher.