Which mid ranged GPU?

[Newbie.Builder]

Hi everyone, I am building a new PC and I am having trouble deciding on a GPU. My build is a mid tier PC so I'm looking at either a 1660s or a 2060, I also want the build to last a long time- roughly 7 to 10 years so I'd rather get quality products over slight performance. Can any of you recommend a good quality 1660s/Ti or a 2060 under $400 usd?

Thanks

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Newbie.Builder said:

Can any of you recommend a good quality 1660s/Ti or a 2060 under $400 usd?

you can actually afford a 2070 at that price 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HfMwrH/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-8-gb-windforce-2x-video-card-gv-n2070wf2-8gd

 

 

[Oswin]

you can get a 5700xt for that budget, will perform better out of all the cards you mentioned.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tgNgXL/xfx-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-triple-dissipation-video-card-rx-57xt83ld8

Edited August 20, 2020 by Oswin
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[dfsgsfa]

5600xt, 5700xt as well

[LienusLateTips]

2070/5700XT. Although I would recommend you wait for RTX 3000 series.

[Newbie.Builder]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

you can actually afford a 2070 at that price 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HfMwrH/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-8-gb-windforce-2x-video-card-gv-n2070wf2-8gd

 

 

Unfortunately I cannot in my country, the price is $800 in my country (NZ) which is about $520 usd which is quite a bit over my budget, Also I have heard bad things about Gigabyte's GPUs so I'd rather stay clear and go for better build quality.

[Aereldor]

5700xt. Or get a 5700 and flash it to a 5700xt if you're feeling cheap. 

 

What is your total budget? Most people overspend on the CPU in their build and cheat themselves out of more performance. If I had a dollar for every time I've seen someone try to fit a $300 CPU in a $600 build... I would be able to afford the $300 CPU.

[Newbie.Builder]

5 minutes ago, Oswin said:

you can get a 5700xt for that budget, will perform better out of all the cards you mention.

 

Just now, LienusLateTips said:

2070/5700XT. Although I would recommend you wait for RTX 3000 series.

Hmm that could be a possibility, have the drivers been fixed yet? or are there still issues with them? The main reason I have been looking at NVidia is because of drivers and there software eg. NVenc encoding and shadowplay.

Do you guys know any good quality rx57/5600s?

[Oswin]

4 minutes ago, Newbie.Builder said:

 

Hmm that could be a possibility, have the drivers been fixed yet? or are there still issues with them? The main reason I have been looking at NVidia is because of drivers and there software eg. NVenc encoding and shadowplay.

Do you guys know any good quality rx57/5600s?

afaik they have been fixed for the most part, the one i linked is pretty decent or you can look at the sapphire pulse or nitro + (though iirc the nitro + is rather pricey)

also, are you planning to stream?

Edited August 20, 2020 by Oswin

[Newbie.Builder]

2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

5700xt. Or get a 5700 and flash it to a 5700xt if you're feeling cheap. 

 

What is your total budget? Most people overspend on the CPU in their build and cheat themselves out of more performance. If I had a dollar for every time I've seen someone try to fit a $300 CPU in a $600 build... I would be able to afford the $300 CPU.

My total budget is around $1500 usd and yes my cpu is a teir above my gpu- I'm getting a r7 3700x, but I'm getting this build for video editing and 3d modeling as well as gaming. Also have AMD's drivers been fixed?

[Fasauceome]

10 minutes ago, Newbie.Builder said:

Unfortunately I cannot in my country, the price is $800 in my country (NZ) which is about $520 usd which is quite a bit over my budget, Also I have heard bad things about Gigabyte's GPUs so I'd rather stay clear and go for better build quality.

it is more convenient to share your national currency instead of USD when asking for upgrade recommendations

 

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/product/2H7p99/evga-geforce-rtx-2060-6-gb-ko-ultra-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-2068-kr

 

EVGA has excellent warranty service. For good AMD cards, look no further than Sapphire:

 

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/product/n4ZzK8/sapphire-radeon-rx-5600-xt-6-gb-pulse-video-card-11296-01-20g

[Newbie.Builder]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

it is more convenient to share your national currency instead of USD when asking for upgrade recommendations

 

 

Ok sorry about that, will do next time.

 

3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

 

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/product/2H7p99/evga-geforce-rtx-2060-6-gb-ko-ultra-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-2068-kr

 

EVGA has excellent warranty service. For good AMD cards, look no further than Sapphire:

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/product/n4ZzK8/sapphire-radeon-rx-5600-xt-6-gb-pulse-video-card-11296-01-20g

Ok thank you, although i have heard some negative things about the buil quality of EVGA I'm sue it will be fine, and with the RX5600, have the driver issues been resolved?

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, Newbie.Builder said:

although i have heard some negative things about the buil quality of EVGA

I'm willing to bet you can find negative things that someone said about every brand, sometimes a product just comes out wrong.

 

2 minutes ago, Newbie.Builder said:

and with the RX5600, have the driver issues been resolved?

The cards work pretty well these days. My roommate is currently running an RX 5600 XT which was installed flawlessly.

[Newbie.Builder]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

The cards work pretty well these days. My roommate is currently running an RX 5600 XT which was installed flawlessly.

OK sweet and thank you, which out of these cards would you recommend? I know that the Rx card will have better performence to price, but it doesnt have NVenc and shadowplay like the 2060. Or should I wait for the price or RTX 3000 series cards and get an EVGA card that is in my budget (if they are)?

[Newbie.Builder]

12 minutes ago, Oswin said:

afaik they have been fixed for the most part, the one i linked is pretty decent or you can look at the sapphire pulse or nitro + (though iirc the nitro + is rather pricey)

also, are you planning to stream?

Ok sweet. I will most likely stream a bit, as well as recording clips like how shadowplay does.

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, Newbie.Builder said:

OK sweet and thank you, which out of these cards would you recommend? I know that the Rx card will have better performence to price, but it doesnt have NVenc and shadowplay like the 2060. Or should I wait for the price or RTX 3000 series cards and get an EVGA card that is in my budget (if they are)?

In the US, the 5600 XT is often cheaper so it would have better performance per dollar, but if they're at the same price, the 2060 is what I recommend. Like you mentioned, NVENC and shadowplay are very useful, and the gaming performance of these cards will be almost identical.

 

AMD has encoders on their cards as well, but the performance and software is not as good for streaming/recording.

[Newbie.Builder]

3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

In the US, the 5600 XT is often cheaper so it would have better performance per dollar, but if they're at the same price, the 2060 is what I recommend. Like you mentioned, NVENC and shadowplay are very useful, and the gaming performance of these cards will be almost identical.

 

AMD has encoders on their cards as well, but the performance and software is not as good for streaming/recording.

Yeah, the 2060 is almost the exact same price- only $10 NZD off so I'll most likely go for that then,

Thank you for your help.

[Aereldor]

1 hour ago, Newbie.Builder said:

My total budget is around $1500 usd and yes my cpu is a teir above my gpu- I'm getting a r7 3700x, but I'm getting this build for video editing and 3d modeling as well as gaming. Also have AMD's drivers been fixed?

Interesting, you're underspending on the CPU and could still get the same GPU. RX 5700 beats an RTX 2080 in premiere. Flash it to a 5700xt, OC and you're likely beating a 2080 super.

 

And yeah, you can get a 3900x here. Probably squeeze in a 3950x if you ditch the cooler and downgrade to a 1660 super, and a ssd+hdd combo instead of the 1tb nvme ssd. Won't game as well, but theoretically 33% faster for video editing, 3d modelling etc.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($829.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49 CFM CPU Cooler  ($67.85 @ PB Technologies) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($167.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE DARK Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($196.71 @ Ascent Technology) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.00 @ Computer Lounge) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB MECH OC Video Card  ($639.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Case: Silverstone FARA R1 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.58 @ Aquila Technology) 
Power Supply: Corsair CV 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($125.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Total: $2293.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-21 10:57 NZST+1200

 

Tagging @lexusgamer05 if he knows any NZ specific deals

[Mateyyy]

11 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

RX 5700 beats an RTX 2080 in premiere. Flash it to a 5700xt, OC and you're likely beating a 2080 super.

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11 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($829.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49 CFM CPU Cooler  ($67.85 @ PB Technologies) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($167.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE DARK Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($196.71 @ Ascent Technology) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.00 @ Computer Lounge) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB MECH OC Video Card  ($639.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Case: Silverstone FARA R1 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.58 @ Aquila Technology) 
Power Supply: Corsair CV 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($125.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Total: $2293.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-21 10:57 NZST+1200

That board will throttle with a 3900X, among other things

[Aereldor]

5 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

 

 

I could be wrong, but aren't the B450 TUF Plus boards known for having VRMs way better than their price tier? Or do I have them confused with the TUF PRO

 

[Mateyyy]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

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Maybe Premiere's been updated since to better utilise Turing GPUs. To be fair I'm not sure when Puget's testing was done.

 

The TUF B450M-PRO S that just released has good VRMs, other than that they're all bad. 

The Plus iirc has an even weaker VRM than the Strix B450-F, as well as worse heatsinks, and the Strix board already can't handle a 3950X adequately (HUB actually tested it with a 3950X, which at stock pulls about the same or slightly less power compared to the 3900X).

[Aereldor]

10 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Maybe Premiere's been updated since to better utilise Turing GPUs. To be fair I'm not sure when Puget's testing was done.

 

The TUF B450M-PRO S that just released has good VRMs, other than that they're all bad. 

The Plus iirc has an even weaker VRM than the Strix B450-F, as well as worse heatsinks, and the Strix board already can't handle a 3950X adequately (HUB actually tested it with a 3950X, which at stock pulls about the same or slightly less power compared to the 3900X).

Went through the VRM tier list, found a Tier C board for cheap, nothing on B or A without paying way more. I'm trusting you on the puget benches, so managed to fit in a 3950x.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($1329.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49 CFM CPU Cooler  ($67.85 @ PB Technologies) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($192.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE DARK Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($196.90 @ Paradigm PCs) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($80.96 @ Aquila Technology) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($94.95 @ Computer Lounge) 
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB GamingPro OC Video Card  ($428.00 @ Mighty Ape) 
Case: Silverstone PS15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Total: $2458.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-21 11:33 NZST+1200

[Newbie.Builder]

@Mateyyy @Aereldor This is my current list, could you please recommend updates to it?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$537.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
CPU Cooler	NZXT Kraken X63 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$406.20 @ Newegg New Zealand
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550 VISION D ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$153.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$175.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$569.00 @ PB Technologies
Case	Fractal Design Define 7 Compact ATX Mid Tower Case	$245.00 @ Computer Lounge
Power Supply	Corsair HX Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$279.00 @ Computer Lounge
Case Fan	Fractal Design GP14-BK 68.4 CFM 140 mm Fan
Case Fan	Fractal Design GP14-BK 68.4 CFM 140 mm Fan
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2364.20
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-21 11:41 NZST+1200

edit: I would like to keep the motherboard for future, and the psu too. I kinda like the cooler but I can change it if necessary.

[Mateyyy]

10 minutes ago, Newbie.Builder said:

-snip-

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$829.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U12A 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler	$199.00 @ Computer Lounge
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$277.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Memory	Team T-FORCE DARK Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$196.90 @ Paradigm PCs
Storage	ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$150.00 @ DTC Systems
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$569.00 @ PB Technologies
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$195.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$193.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Case Fan	Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan	$48.90 @ Playtech
Case Fan	Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan	$48.90 @ Playtech
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2706.70
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-21 11:52 NZST+1200

That motherboard's super overpriced for what it is and you really don't need 750W. You could throw in any current-gen consumer GPU and 550W would still be enough.

[Newbie.Builder]

19 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$829.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U12A 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler	$199.00 @ Computer Lounge
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$277.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Memory	Team T-FORCE DARK Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$196.90 @ Paradigm PCs
Storage	ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$150.00 @ DTC Systems
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$569.00 @ PB Technologies
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$195.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$193.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Case Fan	Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan	$48.90 @ Playtech
Case Fan	Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan	$48.90 @ Playtech
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2706.70
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-21 11:52 NZST+1200

That motherboard's super overpriced for what it is and you really don't need 750W. You could throw in any current-gen consumer GPU and 550W would still be enough.

Hmmm, I was kinda looking at aesthetics too because if I'm going to have this for 7+ years, i don't really want it to be an eye sore, but I guess I could find a case with a solid side panel and get the non chromax fans. Also $2700 is kinda pushing it (but yes I know that it is only ~$200 more than my previous, with better price to performance) Also sorry for asking this again, but what are the quality of these parts like?

Here is a photoshopped idea of what I wanted to build:https://prnt.sc/u35zcl (ignore the Gigabyte GPU)