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Which one would you choose for a first time builder.

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14 minutes ago, Pc_On_Fire said:

Which one would you choose for a first time builder.

The GTX 1660 Super is about 25-30% stronger than an RX 580, so if you can afford it; the GTX 1660 Super is definitely the way to go between these two

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1 minute ago, gloop said:

Do you need nvenc?

No I do not

 

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Just now, minibois said:

The GTX 1660 Super is about 25-30% stronger than an RX 580, so if you can afford it; the GTX 1660 Ti is definitely the way to go between these two

I have looked into it but its just out of my budget

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Just now, Pc_On_Fire said:

I have looked into it but its just out of my budget

Apologies, in the last sentence of my post I meant to say the 1660 Super.

2 minutes ago, minibois said:

so if you can afford it; the GTX 1660 Ti Super is definitely the way to go between these two

 

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5 minutes ago, Pc_On_Fire said:

Which one would you choose for a first time builder.

1660 Super for sure.

 

Its better all around.

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2 minutes ago, minibois said:

Apologies, in the last sentence of my post I meant to say the 1660 Super.

 

Oh Okay thanks its just people have told me that the 580 its better than the 1660 super. I was not sure and just wanted to make sure

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3 minutes ago, GamerBlake said:

1660 Super for sure.

 

Its better all around.

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You cant get more definitive than that 

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Oh Okay thanks its just people have told me that the 580 its better than the 1660 super. I was not sure and just wanted to make sure

No idea where these people are getting their info from, but the RX 580 is definitely worse than a 1660 Super.

When I was planning my upgrade from an RX 580 I created a spreadsheet with game fps in different games and the 1660 Super was 27% better on average (in the selection of games and benchmarks I chose).

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5 minutes ago, GamerBlake said:

1660 Super for sure.

 

Its better all around.

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I completely agree, but you really shouldn't use sites like UserBenchmark to make these decisions

 

 

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1 minute ago, minibois said:

No idea where these people are getting their info from, but the RX 580 is definitely worse than a 1660 Super.

When I was planning my upgrade from an RX 580 I created a spreadsheet with game fps in different games and the 1660 Super was 27% better on average (in the selection of games and benchmarks I chose).

What games are on that list

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5 minutes ago, Pc_On_Fire said:

Oh Okay thanks its just people have told me that the 580 its better than the 1660 super. I was not sure and just wanted to make sure

You might be mistaking it for the 1650 Super, which is comparable to the 580.

The 1660 Super on the other hand is just plain faster than the 580.

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Maybe but 1660 super is what I remeber but im probably wrong

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9 minutes ago, Pc_On_Fire said:

Oh Okay thanks its just people have told me that the 580 its better than the 1660 super. I was not sure and just wanted to make sure

What people? You should slap them. Hard. The 580 is a direct competitor of the 1060. A 1660 super is obviously better in every way. Not even a contest.

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Just now, Chris Pratt said:

What people? You should slap them. Hard. The 580 is a direct competitor of the 1060. A 1660 super is obviously better in every way. Not even a contest.

They were AMD fans and I mean that as a joke

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Just now, Pc_On_Fire said:

What games are on that list

Battlefield V, F1 2020 (because it's from the creators from a game I play a bit), The Witcher 3 and the 3DMark benchmarks FireStrike Ultra and Time Spy.

Not an exhaustive list, but something with a bit of variation.

The 1660 'normal' is 10% better than the RX 580, the 1660 Super is 25% better and the 1660 Ti is 29% better.

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1 minute ago, minibois said:

Battlefield V, F1 2020 (because it's from the creators from a game I play a bit), The Witcher 3 and the 3DMark benchmarks FireStrike Ultra and Time Spy.

Not an exhaustive list, but something with a bit of variation.

The 1660 'normal' is 10% better than the RX 580, the 1660 Super is 25% better and the 1660 Ti is 29% better.

So the 1660 ti through your tests is not much better than the 1660 super

 

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It's also more expensive, you could buy 1660 super, sell it for the used price and probably still get enough money for RX 590. There must've been some kind of a mix up, perhaps they meant 1650 super? It'd be much closer in terms of price and performance.

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Just now, Loote said:

It's also more expensive, you could buy 1660 super, sell it for the used price and probably still get enough money for RX 590. There must've been some kind of a mix up, perhaps they meant 1650 super? It'd be much closer in terms of price and performance.

Probably 

 

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1 minute ago, Pc_On_Fire said:

They were AMD fans and I mean that as a joke

Hey, I'll defend the honor of my 5600 XT on the battlefield, but this isn't a fanbody issue. It's like saying the 5600 XT is better than a 2070 super. It's just not, but it's also not competing there, just as the 580 never competed with the 1660 super.

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Just now, Pc_On_Fire said:

So the 1660 ti through your tests is not much better than the 1660 super

 

Not much. In some games it's literally a 2-3fps difference, which might as well be margin of error.

FPS numbers are at 4K and I got these from Guru3D reviews:

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As you can see, minimal difference (the % numbers are vs. an RX 580).

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13 minutes ago, mail929 said:

I completely agree, but you really shouldn't use sites like UserBenchmark to make these decisions

 

 

I’ve seen Jayztwocents use it and so I figure it’s legit. Jay really knows what he’s talking about.

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Just now, Chris Pratt said:

Hey, I'll defend the honor of my 5600 XT on the battlefield, but this isn't a fanbody issue. It's like saying the 5600 XT is better than a 2070 super. It's just not, but it's also not competing there, just as the 580 never competed with the 1660 super.

Ok

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