AMD is forcing me to make a very difficult choice…

[Vishera]

IT'S A TRAP!! DON'T BUY IT'S JUST A PLACE HOLDER FOR ZEN 3!!!!

[Zberg]

Also, agreed Linus, it will be interesting to see random search results for the future Ryzen 5700 XT CPU's to give us results about black screens and driver issues in 2020

 

 

[Dorraj]

So uh... I have a 3700x, an x570 board, and was interested in AMDs Storemi, so I downloaded it, and when I went to install it, my computer bluescreened and refuses to boot into windows. Be careful trying out storemi, guys. Currently trying to repair whatever the hell storemi screwed up. 

[Spotty]

7 hours ago, NZgamer said:

2021

 

Guy 1: Uh yeah I'm having problems with my 5600XT

Guy 2: Is that a Ryzen or Radeon??

Guy 1: "It's AMD"

[Master Disaster]

On 7/7/2020 at 2:48 PM, Spotty said:

The 3800X/XT still doesn't make any sense to me. There's a pretty big price gap between the 3700X and 3800XT. If you want 8C/16T save your money and buy the 3700X and invest the savings in a better CPU cooler/motherboard/sandwiches and overclock it.

That doesn't work as well on Zen 2 as well as it does on Intel. By forcing a Zen to into an all core OC you lose its ability for it to boost the 2 fastest cores up way higher during low load high frequency tasks.

 

My 3800X for example will do an all core OC of 4.3Ghz comfortably, it will do 4.4Ghz at a push (but temps get up in the danger zone) but it locks all 8 cores at 4.3Ghz permanently. If I leave it alone it will automatically boost all cores to 4.3Ghz when it needs that power but in a low load situation it will boost 2 cores up to 4.6Ghz. This gives it the best of both worlds, you get the same all core power as a manual OC but also more power to handle the less taxing tasks. The only change I make it to increase the power limit so it keeps applying the boosts for longer than it otherwise would since my 155i Platinum can easily handle it at 4.3Ghz all the time.

 

I've been telling people this for months and recently Jay has started telling people the same thing. There's really no benefit to forcing an all core OC on to a Zen 2 CPU, in fact it actually has a negative effect in some situations.

[Spotty]

9 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

That doesn't work as well on Zen 2 as well as it does on Intel. By forcing a Zen to into an all core OC you lose its ability for it to boost the 2 fastest cores up way higher during low load high frequency tasks.

Interesting. I don't have any experience with them, still rocking my old 6700k. 

Regardless, for me and my needs, the small clock boost between the two chips wouldn't be worth the additional cost even if the 3700x was running stock/precision boost clocks.

[Loote]

I think the price of XT versions will soon reach the old version level and the older ones will get cheaper, for now there's a new thing tax and absolutely it's not worth to pay extra 20% for 2-5% of speed.