Posted July 2, 2020 Recently put together a new build, but I'm running into just one issue that I'm not super thrilled about. Although both the motherboard and RAM both state that they can operate at 3600mhz, I'm not actually able to run at that speed or I just run into boot loops until the BIOS drops into safemode/defaults. In fact, anything over 3000mhz results in boot looping. I hoped updating BIOS to the latest would help but unfortunately that is not the case. Admittedly, the RAM is not on the vendor qualified list. However, very similar options are, though at lower capacity. In fact, there are no options on the vendor's list that really suit my wants/needs (64GB+), so I cannot simply just return these sticks and buy something else. What are my options here? Just suck it up and deal with 3000mhz and hope a future BIOS update addresses this, or can this be resolved some other way? ASUS Prime x570-pro https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SW925DQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3600 https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B081BTFN1B/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Thanks for your time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Elverion said: Just suck it up and deal with 3000mhz and hope a future BIOS update addresses this, or can this be resolved some other way? How are you trying to get the 3600Mhz speeds? Is it via D.O.C.P. or manual overclocking? "We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami. mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/ mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 What cpu exactly ? 2x32 is not an easy setup for ryzen to run So bump the soc voltage to 1.1 and dram to 1.35 and then try booting with 3200 with xmp / docp enabled, if it did use something like memtest86 or / and OCCT to make sure it's stable If it is go for 3600, the benifits of 3600 over 3000 is negligible anyways so your not missing out on a lot PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD. Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White). Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish). Build Log: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 If the ram is not on QVL, its more then likely not going to work at all. You can bump the Dram voltage to 1.45V and still be fine, see if it boots. IF it refuses to boot at 1.45v, you have a dud kit and its a rip. My Gaming and Editing Rig : http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/500716-red-gaming-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Shimejii said: If the ram is not on QVL No It will work, QVL lists are vague for the most part because they can't test every possible stick out there. PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD. Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White). Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish). Build Log: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 Author 5 minutes ago, minibois said: How are you trying to get the 3600Mhz speeds? Is it via D.O.C.P. or manual overclocking? Just went into the relevant BIOS section and changed the option from Auto (which was resulting in 2133mhz) to 3600. I haven't really messed with DOCP yet but I could perhaps look into it when I have the time available. 8 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said: What cpu exactly ? 2x32 is not an easy setup for ryzen to run So bump the soc voltage to 1.1 and dram to 1.35 and then try booting with 3200 with xmp / docp enabled, if it did use something like memtest86 or / and OCCT to make sure it's stable If it is go for 3600, the benifits of 3600 over 3000 is negligible anyways so your not missing out on a lot Ryzen 9 3950x. Sorry, I should have included that with my original post. I'll definitely give that a shot. Thank you very much for the thorough answer! Is the difference between 3600 and 3000 really negligable? I don't have much experience here, but I thought RAM speed made a big difference under Ryzen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 A Ryzen 3000 series processor supports up to 3200mhz. Anything past that is an overclock. 32GB sticks, dual rank just won't do 3600mhz on a Ryzen IMC. If so, not easily as stated above. Lower your frequency expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Elverion said: Just went into the relevant BIOS section and changed the option from Auto (which was resulting in 2133mhz) to 3600. I haven't really messed with DOCP yet but I could perhaps look into it when I have the time available. Ryzen 9 3950x. Sorry, I should have included that with my original post. I'll definitely give that a shot. Thank you very much for the thorough answer! Is the difference between 3600 and 3000 really negligable? I don't have much experience here, but I thought RAM speed made a big difference under Ryzen? DOCP setting is HOW it overclocks itself to those speeds btw. Set DOCP or XMP whichever your bios has avail and see how it turns out Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com) Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594? Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Elverion said: Is the difference between 3600 and 3000 really negligable Pretty much yes. PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD. Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White). Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish). Build Log: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 Just now, TofuHaroto said: No It will work, QVL lists are vague for the most part because they can't test every possible stick out there. Not really no. I have 4 ram kits from Gskill and none of them work on my x570 Aorus Master. None of them are on QVL, they refuse to boot past 3200 mhz even though they are listed at 3600 mhz. I borrowed a kit from someone that WAS a matching QVL kit, worked first try without an issue. Ryzem Ram is Fucking trash, I honestly hoped it would be better at this point but its still super finicky. If its not on QVL for Ryzen on the motherboard, theres really no point in buying the ram because it probably wont work, and even if you do get QVL ram, it may not work properly either My Gaming and Editing Rig : http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/500716-red-gaming-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 Just now, Shimejii said: If its not on QVL for Ryzen on the motherboard, theres really no point in buying the ram because it probably wont work, and even if you do get QVL ram, it may not work properly either That rarely happens Any ram stick will work even if it's not on the QVL list 99% of the time it will. PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD. Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White). Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish). Build Log: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Elverion said: Just went into the relevant BIOS section and changed the option from Auto (which was resulting in 2133mhz) to 3600. I haven't really messed with DOCP yet but I could perhaps look into it when I have the time available. Long story short, there is more than just the speed to worry about. The timings, sub timings, voltage, etc. can influence the RAM's ability to run at a certain speed too. DOCP is the equivalent to XMP on ASUS AMD platforms and it basically asks the RAM "Hey, what are the settings you should run at?", these settings are stored on the memory and are its XMP profile. So using DOCP, it should set all the settings to the correct value, which should result in it running. (keep in mind usually you save the settings, save and exit the BIOS and it can restart a couple times to verify the settings). "We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami. mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/ mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 Just now, TofuHaroto said: That rarely happens Any ram stick will work even if it's not on the QVL list 99% of the time it will. Thats simply not true either. Ryzen is VERY finicky, its a known thing. Saying otherwise is just not being truthful. Even Gigabyte acknowledged this in my support saying Most ram kits past 2600mhz is an overclock and wont be guranteed (harhar weve been on 3000 mhz for quite a few years now) and 3400mhz + or more then likely wont work well on the boards as its a bigger overclock for the ram and memory IC tend to be finicky with most off the mill ram kits. Right now theres quite a few 3600 mhz ram kits from companies like Oloy, i highly doubt any of them would work on most peoples ryzen systems without some sort of tinkering. My Gaming and Editing Rig : http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/500716-red-gaming-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Shimejii said: Ryzen is VERY finicky, Not zen 2 1 minute ago, Shimejii said: Even Gigabyte acknowledged this in my support saying Most ram kits past 2600mhz Your mistaking zen 1 with zen 2 PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD. Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White). Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish). Build Log: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said: Not zen 2 Your mistaking zen 1 with zen 2 I am talking about Zen 2. I have only used Zen 2, and there are still quite a lot of memory issues. Again i have tested quite a few kits with the same results. My Gaming and Editing Rig : http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/500716-red-gaming-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 My buddy Woomack from overclockersforums.com does pretty extensive memory testing. Perhaps some of you fellas need to get out of this Tech forum and actually read at over clock forums where there's just tons of viable useful information. So far claims are being made without a single link to support it. https://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/732290-Woomack-s-memory-test-list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Shimejii said: am talking about Zen 2. I have only used Zen 2, and there are still quite a lot of memory issues The "past 2600 is an overclock" is something that applies to zen 1 If your using Zen 2 on Let's say a b350 board then the marketing will still be the same because the rule did not apply to zen 2 as it was not even released As for the imc It for fixed, it's not the best, but will certainly handle 3000 and beyond. Gotta go to sleep now probably PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD. Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White). Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish). Build Log: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said: The "past 2600 is an overclock" is something that applies to zen 1 If your using Zen 2 on Let's say a b350 board then the marketing will still be the same because the rule did not apply to zen 2 as it was not even released As for the imc It for fixed, it's not the best, but will certainly handle 3000 and beyond. Gotta go to sleep now probably Hey im just saying what they sent me in my emails about the issues ive had with my x570 board, and i got that multiple times Ive had it handle most of the 3600 ram kits at 3000 or 3200 mhz, but anything beyond that on non QVL RAM refused to work so. My Gaming and Editing Rig : http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/500716-red-gaming-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 50 minutes ago, Shimejii said: Not really no. I have 4 ram kits from Gskill and none of them work on my x570 Aorus Master. None of them are on QVL, they refuse to boot past 3200 mhz even though they are listed at 3600 mhz. I borrowed a kit from someone that WAS a matching QVL kit, worked first try without an issue. Ryzem Ram is Fucking trash, I honestly hoped it would be better at this point but its still super finicky. If its not on QVL for Ryzen on the motherboard, theres really no point in buying the ram because it probably wont work, and even if you do get QVL ram, it may not work properly either None of my ram is on Ryzen/mobo's QVL and I have bench links in my siggy from both of my 1700s - 1 1700 with 3200mhz RAM, 1 1700 with 3600mhz ram (no QVL, wayyyyy out of spec - took a long time to get it this way fucking with timings etc) @Elverion are you on the latest bios for your mobo? Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com) Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594? Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, TofuHaroto said: That rarely happens Any ram stick will work even if it's not on the QVL list 99% of the time it will. Just got my ram in from the RMA since it refused to boot past 3200 mhz. https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907 its this ram specifcally. This ram has now refused to boot at XMP twice, even bumping the voltage up to 1.5v and attempting it did nothing. https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231796?Item=N82E16820231796&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2fproduct%2fjDrG3C%2fgskill-memory-f42400c15q32grr&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-Mm0B4ZBTTQ6w.G45qNdCrQ I had to use my old KIT of ram while the other one shipped out. This one also refused to boot at XMP, and its 2400 mhz. It straight up refused any additional voltage as well. My Gaming and Editing Rig : http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/500716-red-gaming-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 3, 2020 Zen 2 (3000 series or 4000G series) should work fine with 3200MHz how ever if its not its the IMC most likely over stressed for some reason, one way to avoid this is to stick to only 2 sticks, another thing is if DOCP/XMP is enabled and it will not work with more than 2 sticks or if you have 2 sticks refusing to boot at the desired speed a option is often to lower it to example 3000MHz now you think "but less performance!" but no not always if the CL reduces by 1 when reducing the MHz example 3200MHz CL16 turns into 3000MHz CL15 in theory its still as fast and you have not really lost anything in terms of speed! 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Posted July 3, 2020 8 hours ago, Elverion said: Just went into the relevant BIOS section and changed the option from Auto (which was resulting in 2133mhz) to 3600. I haven't really messed with DOCP yet but I could perhaps look into it when I have the time available. Ryzen 9 3950x. Sorry, I should have included that with my original post. I'll definitely give that a shot. Thank you very much for the thorough answer! Is the difference between 3600 and 3000 really negligable? I don't have much experience here, but I thought RAM speed made a big difference under Ryzen? That may actually be your problem. It's not just about the MHz. All the timings have to be right too. XMP/DOCP is actual profiles for the RAM, which includes MHz *and* timings. Don't set the MHz directly. Just turn on DOCP and let it clock itself. CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X · Cooler: Artic Liquid Freezer II 280 · Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 Unify · RAM: G.skill Ripjaws V 2x16GB 3600MHz CL16 (2Rx8) · Graphics Card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3060 Ti TUF Gaming · Boot Drive: 500GB WD Black SN750 M.2 NVMe SSD · Game Drive: 2TB Crucial MX500 SATA SSD · PSU: Corsair White RM850x 850W 80+ Gold · Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow · Monitor: MSI Optix MAG342CQR 34” UWQHD 3440x1440 144Hz · Keyboard: Corsair K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (OPX Switch) · Mouse: Corsair Ironclaw RGB Wireless Gaming Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 3, 2020 Author I turned on DOCP and let it autoset to 3600 with correct timings and such. Boot-looped, so I stepped it down speed until it would boot and run stable at 3200. I was doing some testing with Prime95 and quickly my CPU was heating up to the point of reaching aggressive thermal throttling. I reverted back to DOCP disabled and RAM at 3000mhz and ran the same test, CPU was stable at 100% utilization across 32 threads and a max of 50C. Does DOCP also change anything that would result in this behavior? I haven't had a lot of time to continue testing yet to determine exactly what was causing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 3, 2020 21 hours ago, Shimejii said: If its not on QVL for Ryzen on the motherboard, theres really no point in buying the ram because it probably wont work, and even if you do get QVL ram, it may not work properly either QVL means they haven't confirmed it working. ram on ryzen really isn't all that hard. I've had 0 problems running random ram in ryzen systems not on QVL at 3200 or faster all on 2000 chips in b450boards which have weak memory controllers. Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 3, 2020 The ram is also overclocked to hit 3600 as CL18 means the chips weren't designed for that speed. The loose timings means that it may run that high, but the vendor set the profile lose to get it there. If it was CL 16-16-16 or lower then you may have been fine. Gaming - AMD TR 3970X | ASUS ROG Zenith Extreme II | G.SKILL Neo 3600 64GB | Zotac Nvidia 2080 Ti AMP | 2x Sabarent 1TB NVMe | Samsung 860 EVO 1TB SSD | Phanteks Enthoo 719 | Seasonic Prime Ultra Platinum 1000w | Corsair K70 RGB Lux | Corsiar M65 | 2x ASUS Rog PG279Q | BenQ EW3270U | Windows 10 Pro | EKWB Custom loop ITX - Intel i7-10700k | Asus ROG Z490-I Gaming | G.SKILL TridentZ RGB 3200 32GB | EVGA 2080 Super| Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | Samsung 860 Evo 1TB SSD | NZXT H1| Windows 10 Pro HTPC - Intel i9-9900k | Asus ROG Maximus XI Code | G.SKILL TridentZ RGB 3200 32GB | EVGA 1070 | Samsung 970 1TB | WD Blue 1TB SSD | NZXT H700 | EVGA G3 1000W | Corsair H150i | Windows 10 Pro Servers - SuperMicro 846 | 2x 2695L V2 | 128GB | Chelsio 10Gbe | Chelsio 40Gbe | 24 x 6TB | FreeNas - SuperMicro 826 | 2 x 2695L | 128GB | Chelsio 10Gbe | Chelsio 40Gbe | 8 x 10TB | 847 24 x 1TB SSD | Windows Server 2019 Work - Dell XPS 15 9560 | i7-7700HQ | 32 GB RAM | 1TB NVMe | 4k dsiplay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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