Upgrade to Ryzen 5 3600 worth it right now?

[AndrewB121]

There's an offer currently running at scan.co.uk where I could get a ryzen 5 3600 bundled with Horizon Zero Dawn PC for £170. Considering that I will be buying the game anyway and it will probably cost at least £30 at launch that means the price of the 3600 will be about £140, if not less. I currently own a ryzen 5 2600X which I reckon I could probably sell for £100, bringing the cost of the new CPU down to only £40. This is obviously an insane deal for what I gather would be a good bump in performance. 

 

However, and this is where I need some advice, apparently there might be a new set of upgraded ryzen 3000 chips followed by the new 4000 chips coming out really soon? Do you think it would be worth it to take the deal now or wait and see if I can get a used ryzen 3000 once the new chips are out and perhaps get an even better deal? Is it even worth the upgrade? 

[dizmo]

Completely up to you. Worth is subjective.

Would you want to pay 40 for better performance now, or double if not triple that more for slightly better performance later?

[Jurrunio]

Can your graphics card even crank out enough frames to saturate the 2600X at 1440p?

[SupaKomputa]

the other chip won't get you the games.

[AndrewB121]

13 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Can your graphics card even crank out enough frames to saturate the 2600X at 1440p?

That depends on the game, but I think so? I also do a decent amount of CAD stuff so should help with that.  

 

EDIT: Also hoping that if I did upgrade the CPU it would be the last CPU upgrade I need for a long time, so would last me through the next GPU upgrade I do. 

[Jurrunio]

17 minutes ago, AndrewB121 said:

That depends on the game, but I think so? I also do a decent amount of CAD stuff so should help with that.  

I'd recommend waiting till you can afford the 8 core then. while IPC has gone up considerably. it hasnt changed the fact that they are both 6 core CPUs which is not going to be a big difference for work. I dont know how much 4th gen will improve but by that time (i.e. after you have enough in your pockets for a 3rd gen 8 core), it should be launched and you can compare performance at that point from reviews. Even 3rd gen is capable enough for 144fps in most games so there's not much reason to get 4th gen strictly.

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

I'd recommend waiting till you can afford the 8 core then. while IPC has gone up considerably. it hasnt changed the fact that they are both 6 core CPUs which is not going to be a big difference for work.

If we are only comparing both of these cpu's at intensive work loads

While yes I agree they both have 6 cores

And the ipc difference won't really Change a whole lot the 3600 has a considerably better fpu which could help depending on the task 

[AndrewB121]

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I'd recommend waiting till you can afford the 8 core then. while IPC has gone up considerably. it hasnt changed the fact that they are both 6 core CPUs which is not going to be a big difference for work. I dont know how much 4th gen will improve but by that time (i.e. after you have enough in your pockets for a 3rd gen 8 core), it should be launched and you can compare performance at that point from reviews. Even 3rd gen is capable enough for 144fps in most games so there's not much reason to get 4th gen strictly.

 

7 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

If we are only comparing both of these cpu's at intensive work loads

While yes I agree they both have 6 cores

And the ipc difference won't really Change a whole lot the 3600 has a considerably better fpu which could help depending on the task 

 

Interesting, it sounds like the CPU might not be a huge upgrade, but still a decent amount? Should clarify that the main CAD stuff I do is with programs like SolidWorks and Inventor, and tbh none of the stuff I do at the moment is super complex. Gaming is still the primary workload of the PC. 

 

Tbh I probably won't be upgrading to 4th gen either way, at least not for a long time. My needs are not really that great. The main question is whether I could get a better upgrade to the 3600 when the 4000 series come out, which is probably impossible to predict. If the 3600 is a decent improvement and would last me an extra couple of years over the 2600X then maybe it would be worth it? 

 

Also I haven't had much luck overclocking my 2600X, which I might be able to do with the 3600 to boost the performance slightly more?

[vinit6694skr]

51 minutes ago, AndrewB121 said:

There's an offer currently running at scan.co.uk where I could get a ryzen 5 3600 bundled with Horizon Zero Dawn PC for £170. Considering that I will be buying the game anyway and it will probably cost at least £30 at launch that means the price of the 3600 will be about £140, if not less. I currently own a ryzen 5 2600X which I reckon I could probably sell for £100, bringing the cost of the new CPU down to only £40. This is obviously an insane deal for what I gather would be a good bump in performance. 

 

However, and this is where I need some advice, apparently there might be a new set of upgraded ryzen 3000 chips followed by the new 4000 chips coming out really soon? Do you think it would be worth it to take the deal now or wait and see if I can get a used ryzen 3000 once the new chips are out and perhaps get an even better deal? Is it even worth the upgrade? 

Both are 6C/12T CPUs so I don't think the upgrade is worth it. Better to wait and upgrade to a 8 core 4000 series processor later on. Also the stock cooler on 2600x is better than 3600. The 2600x is also a great CPU with performance better than the Haswell/Broadwell 6 cores. 

You might spend that 40 now and get a 3600 but if the 4000 series offer even better IPC and you feel the need to upgrade again then your £40 spent now will be a waste.

[Haro]

3 minutes ago, AndrewB121 said:

Gaming is still the primary workload of the PC. 

Wait for zen 3 then 

 

4 minutes ago, AndrewB121 said:

The main question is whether I could get a better upgrade to the 3600 when the 4000 series come out, which is probably impossible to predict.

You could if you want 

Let's say you didn't like what zen 3 offered or the price was too high for you then the 3600 would drop in price

5 minutes ago, AndrewB121 said:

Also I haven't had much luck overclocking my 2600X, which I might be able to do with the 3600 to boost the performance slightly more?

Over clocking ryzen doesn't make sense really

[Jurrunio]

10 minutes ago, AndrewB121 said:

The main question is whether I could get a better upgrade to the 3600 when the 4000 series come out, which is probably impossible to predict. If the 3600 is a decent improvement and would last me an extra couple of years over the 2600X then maybe it would be worth it? 

3600 is better for gaming enough to be worth it, but AMD CPUs depreciate like mad after their replacements launch (while supply of older CPUs still go on to fend off budget offerings from Intel). Even before 4th gen there's the 3rd gen XT models to hopefully kick down the price.