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Should I cheap out on my CPU so much?

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Budget (including currency): 550 Euro

Country: Netherlands

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Total War Three Kingdoms / CS:GO / HOI4

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 1080p 60 FPS ultra is my goal. HOI4 doesn’t have to be high speed.

I currently have the following build, but I’m wondering if I ain’t cheaping out too much on the cpu, and if I ain’t missing anything else as well.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/wHFwn7

 

CPU: AMD A8-9600 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€58.99 @ Azerty) 

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Alpine 64 GT 25.6 CFM CPU Cooler  (€15.89 @ Azerty) 

Motherboard: ASRock A320M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€77.50 @ Azerty) 

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€55.66 @ Azerty) 

Storage: PNY CS900 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€29.99 @ Paradigit) 

Storage: Toshiba P300 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€41.94 @ Megekko) 

Video Card: Inno3D GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB Twin X2 OC Video Card  (€179.00 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 

Case: Cooler Master MasterBox E300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€39.99 @ Paradigit) 

Power Supply: SeaSonic S12III 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€49.90 @ Azerty) 

Total: €548.86

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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Just now, 5x5 said:

Holy hell this is a terrible build. Give me a minute.

Lol this starting bad already

i suck at picking parts lol

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Just now, Bobotie1 said:

Lol this starting bad already

i suck at picking parts lol

I mean, you can get equivalent GPU performance and 5 times better CPU performance for your money. Not to mention a MUCH more reliable HDD.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€113.90 @ Azerty)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€67.85 @ Megekko)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€55.66 @ Azerty)
Storage: *PNY CS900 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€29.99 @ Paradigit)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€43.94 @ Megekko)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 570 8 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card  (€159.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Case: *Cooler Master MasterBox E300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€39.99 @ Paradigit)
Power Supply: *SeaSonic S12III 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€49.90 @ Azerty)
Total: €561.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
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10 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

I mean, you can get equivalent GPU performance and 5 times better CPU performance for your money. Not to mention a MUCH more reliable HDD.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€113.90 @ Azerty)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€67.85 @ Megekko)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€55.66 @ Azerty)
Storage: *PNY CS900 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€29.99 @ Paradigit)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€43.94 @ Megekko)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 570 8 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card  (€159.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Case: *Cooler Master MasterBox E300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€39.99 @ Paradigit)
Power Supply: *SeaSonic S12III 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€49.90 @ Azerty)
Total: €561.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-21 20:20 CEST+0200

3 3100 only works with 500 chipsets... this build is incompatible.


Edit; forget about that I’m stupid

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2 minutes ago, Bobotie1 said:

3 3100 only works with 500 chipsets... this build is incompatible.

 

pretty sure you just need to update the bios for it to work

G502 Lightspeed Review

PC:

Spoiler

i5-6400

GIGABYTE GA-H110M-DS2

CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 2X4 DDR4-2666MHz

ASUS ROG STRIX-GTX 1060-O6G

SEAGATE 2TB HDD

FUJISTU F300 240GB SSD

CORSAIR CX750M

Laptop:

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Acer Nitro 5
i5 8300h
GTX 1050 4Gb
12 Gb RAM

128 Gb SSD

1 Tb HDD

Peripherals:

Spoiler

Keyboard:

Logitech G310 Atlas Dawn (Romer G)

Rexus Legionare MX5.1 (Content Browns)

Mice:

Logitech G602

Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Steelseries Rival 105

Logitech M330

Headset:

Logitech G430 
Cooler Master MH 752

 

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7 minutes ago, Bobotie1 said:

3 3100 only works with 500 chipsets... this build is incompatible.

 

That’s incorrect. Will work on B450 boards.

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6 minutes ago, Oswin said:

pretty sure you just need to update the bios for it to work

But Linus video about the release of the 3100 told me the catch was only B550 and X570 Boards would be compatible?

 

edit; never mind I’m stupid

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11 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

I mean, you can get equivalent GPU performance and 5 times better CPU performance for your money. Not to mention a MUCH more reliable HDD.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€113.90 @ Azerty)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€67.85 @ Megekko)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€55.66 @ Azerty)
Storage: *PNY CS900 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€29.99 @ Paradigit)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€43.94 @ Megekko)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 570 8 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card  (€159.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Case: *Cooler Master MasterBox E300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€39.99 @ Paradigit)
Power Supply: *SeaSonic S12III 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€49.90 @ Azerty)
Total: €561.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-21 20:20 CEST+0200

My budget is really really tight and can’t go over it, is there anything I could cheap out on?

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2 minutes ago, Bobotie1 said:

But Linus video about the release of the 3100 told me the catch was only B550 and X570 Boards would be compatible?

 

edit; never mind I’m stupid

It works - and the Zen 3 plan was reversed. Just drop an email to the store or call them asking to have them update the BIOS. 99% of stores do it for free or for a 5 euro tax. And then you're golden. The 3100's cooler is more than enough and the B450 board, while not perfect, is worlds ahead of ANY A320 crap

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1 minute ago, Bobotie1 said:

My budget is really really tight and can’t go over it, is there anything I could cheap out on?

Not really, this is the MINIMUM

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Just now, 5x5 said:

It works - and the Zen 3 plan was reversed. Just drop an email to the store or call them asking to have them update the BIOS. 99% of stores do it for free or for a 5 euro tax. And then you're golden. The 3100's cooler is more than enough and the B450 board, while not perfect, is worlds ahead of ANY A320 crap

K great I will do just that thank you!

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1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

Not really, this is the MINIMUM

So throwing out the HDD and SSD for a 240 GB SSD is a bad idea? (I don’t really download anything except games listed in the original post

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1 minute ago, Bobotie1 said:

So throwing out the HDD and SSD for a 240 GB SSD is a bad idea? (I don’t really download anything except games listed in the original post

You're gonna run out of space in no time if you have only 240 GB.

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1 minute ago, HiBOSS said:

You're gonna run out of space in no time if you have only 240 GB.

That is true. I ran out of my 256 GB space in maybe 2 years.

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1 minute ago, HiBOSS said:

You're gonna run out of space in no time if you have only 240 GB.

Okay I guess I’ll stay with this build! Thanks for the help!

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Ax-9000 series are not Zen, but modified Bulldozer. hell no.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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10 minutes ago, Bobotie1 said:

So throwing out the HDD and SSD for a 240 GB SSD is a bad idea? (I don’t really download anything except games listed in the original post

You'll be out of space before the first day is over.

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