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On 10/26/2021 at 1:58 AM, jonnyGURU said:

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sadly there are multiple people like this in a day. 

 

 

But tacos are good tho😋

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

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Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Hi,

I just got a Corsair rm850x powering my system:

AMD 5900x

EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra

WD Black SN850 1TB nvme

1TB WD SSD

6TB + 2TB WD Black 7200rpm HDDs

EK ARGB 240mm AIO CPU Cooler

8x ARGB 120mm fans
 

When gaming Hwinfo64 shows max power draw of 218w for CPU and max of 418w for GPU. So I’m estimating 636w + rest of system power draw is around 680+. And that is without trying to OC yet. Is that OK long term on a rm850x, or should I exchange for a rm1000x instead?

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45 minutes ago, DetegraT said:

Hi,

I just got a Corsair rm850x powering my system:

AMD 5900x

EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra

WD Black SN850 1TB nvme

1TB WD SSD

6TB + 2TB WD Black 7200rpm HDDs

EK ARGB 240mm AIO CPU Cooler

8x ARGB 120mm fans
 

When gaming Hwinfo64 shows max power draw of 218w for CPU and max of 418w for GPU. So I’m estimating 636w + rest of system power draw is around 680+. And that is without trying to OC yet. Is that OK long term on a rm850x, or should I exchange for a rm1000x instead?

And?

 

It's working, right?

 

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It’s working. For now. But I’m worried for longevity and later when I start OC’ing there won’t be much headroom for power spikes from the GPU. Cause I’ve seen reviews where this EVGA 3080 ti ftw3 can pull 514w to 531w. Like 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-ftw3-ultra/34.html
 

Maybe I should just get a 1000w PSU, like the rm1000x?

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2 minutes ago, DetegraT said:

It’s working. For now. But I’m worried for longevity and later when I start OC’ing there won’t be much headroom for power spikes from the GPU. Cause I’ve seen reviews where this EVGA 3080 ti ftw3 can pull 514w to 531w. Like 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-ftw3-ultra/34.html
 

Maybe I should just get a 1000w PSU, like the rm1000x?

No harm in trying with your current unit. Worst case, OCP trips and you know you need a new PSU.

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1 hour ago, DetegraT said:

It’s working. For now. But I’m worried for longevity and later when I start OC’ing there won’t be much headroom for power spikes from the GPU. Cause I’ve seen reviews where this EVGA 3080 ti ftw3 can pull 514w to 531w. Like 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-ftw3-ultra/34.html
 

Maybe I should just get a 1000w PSU, like the rm1000x?

If I can run a Threadripper and 3090 off an RM850x, I think you're fine.

 

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2 hours ago, IIIIIIIIII said:

@jonnyGURU 

Have you tested Intel 12th Gen?

Nope.  They only give that stuff to reviewers.  Not industry.  😄

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

I've always gone by the rule of never using more than 75% of the rated PSU wattage.  I'd be curious to know whether this is correct, or just to satisfy my own personal concerns.  For what it's worth, I have an Uncle who has extensive electric engineering and computer related (circuit board level) engineering knowledge and he's always told me the same.

 

Trying to figure out power requirements for my new upgrade:

 

Lian Li PC-D600BW

Seasonic 1300w Titanium PSU

ASUS WS X299 Sage Motherboard

Intel i9-10920X CPU

Corsair AIO H115i RGP Pro Capellix 

8 x 16gb Corasir Vengeance RGB PRO 3200

EVGA 3080 ti FTW3 Ultra GPU

EVGA 1080 SC FTW2 GPU

LSI 16port SAS card/expander (PCIe x4)

Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB (OS)

Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB (Games)

2 x IcyDock ToughPower 5 1/4" 8bay 2.5" SSD (2 SATA connector each, replaced each with 2 x 40mmx10mm Noctua fans)

13 x 500GB to 1TB Samsung Evo/Pro 850/860 SSD

5 x 120mm case fans

4 x 140mm case fans

3 x 27" AOC 27G2 (DisplayPort to 3080 ti @1080p 144Hz) Monitors

3 x 27" ASUS VG278HE (HDMI <2.0 to 1080 @1080p 60Hz) Monitors

Corsair K85 RGB Keyboard (USB 3.0 with passthrough)

Logitech G700s wireless/wired Mouse (USB 2.0)

Razer Blackshark v2 Pro wireless Headset (USB 3.0)

 

All of that has power delivery via an APC rack mount Smart-UPS 3000 UPS.  Average power consumption is around 375w, but I need to figure out what my system is going to use under absolute worst case scenario with all USB devices on, all drives being accessed, CPU and GPU at full load or 90%(?).  Is there a database with some/all of these components wattage usage shown under full load?  I do run into these scenarios quite often, believe it or not, because I use this as a virtual lab "server" also.  I can have both my nested Hyper-V and ESXi environments running off the 13 SSD drive pool while also gaming heavily.  Only exception I'd throw in there is that the 1080 only drives the 3 additional monitors for now.  I'm not aware if any of my games would use Physx, which is assigned to that GPU.  No overclocking.

 

I've gone through several wattage calculators and they all say I'll use right around 1050 watts accounting for a variation of "most" of the parts in my build, but I still can't figure out if that's an idle calculation.  CPU and GPU alone from my understanding could spike those numbers another 100-250w each.  1050+400 puts me, either dangerously close, or well over my 1300w PSU max output.  I also wonder if I should step up to a 1600 watt PSU.  Everything is new except the case, the 1080, and the SSD's.  I'm worried about PSU degradation over the next 12 months, not necessarily right now, and how much life expectancy to lose, and how the PSU replacement timeline moves.  And ultimately, does it?

 

The PSU options I've been looking at are the Corsair 1600w digital and the EVGA 1600w T2.  Thoughts?

 

Thanks for any help!

 

Chris

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  • 3 weeks later...

I have a Corsair rm750x 

 

the specs I’m planing to have are:

 

Intel i9 12900k

GeForce gigabyte around 3080 rtx extreme 

32gb DDR5 [16x2]

Cooler master 360 illusion water cooler 

 

https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

 

i did the calculation and it says about 73x watts usage 

 

 

 

 

 


 

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2 hours ago, Chriszzz said:

I have a Corsair rm750x 

 

the specs I’m planing to have are:

 

Intel i9 12900k

GeForce gigabyte around 3080 rtx extreme 

32gb DDR5 [16x2]

Cooler master 360 illusion water cooler 

 

https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

 

i did the calculation and it says about 73x watts usage 

 

 

 

 

 


 

Okay.

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Hello everyone, new build for work purposes:
12900K (air cooling - U12a)
3080 FE (could upgrade to 3090 at some point)
32GB DDR5 6000
Asus Prime-A Z690
couple of NVME Seagate FireCudas 530 2TB
couple of SATA Samsung 2TB SSDs
5-6 case fans

5000D airflow case

plus (already own) 2-3 monitors 21-30''

 

I am not allowed to OC, so this is a no. The build will be properly stressed sometimes (rendering, ML, compiling, etc). I might play some games. I currently own a 2yo Prime Ultra 750W after my good old AX860 died.

 

I have read stuff but have been heavily confused with whether I need to upgrade the PSU (long-term safety and reliability first - we get power outages here) wrt multi/single-rail safety issues, GPU spikes on FE cards, etc. What would you recommend? Budget is relaxed on this machine, but any purchase would need to make sense. Some options I've found (in case of upgrading): Prime-TX (850/1000), Corsair HX-(850/1000), Be quiet 12 (850/1000)? Be quiet Pro 12 1200 also seems great, but also unnecessary overkill.

 

Any advice is welcome. Thank you

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1 hour ago, immuner said:

 

I have read stuff but have been heavily confused with whether I need to upgrade the PSU (long-term safety and reliability first - we get power outages here) wrt multi/single-rail safety issues, GPU spikes on FE cards, etc. What would you recommend? Budget is relaxed on this machine, but any purchase would need to make sense. Some options I've found (in case of upgrading): Prime-TX (850/1000), Corsair HX-(850/1000), Be quiet 12 (850/1000)? Be quiet Pro 12 1200 also seems great, but also unnecessary overkill.

 

You try your Prime first.  If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.  The PC will just shut down.

 

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2 hours ago, --SID-- said:

Gold, Platinum or Titanium?

It's a Titanium

 

3 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

You try your Prime first.  If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.  The PC will just shut down.

 

Good to know that it could probably work. What would be the next high quality PSU that you would recommend?

 

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  • 4 weeks later...

I need help with my pc

 

I have just bult my first pc and my original plan was to have a i5 12600k and a 1660 super. I got every thing except for the gpu and I assembled it but recently I hade a budget change. I am considering getting a 3060 ti instead but I only have a 450w psu and want to know if I should get a higher wattage psu as i would be pushing the limit of a 450w psu?

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Has anyone who swapped to a higher wattage PSU noticed a improvement in how you PC was running. I am not meaning going from under wattage to over wattage I am meaning having enough watts and increasing headroom.

 

My setup is a 5900x on a x570 platform with a pcie gen4 ssd and I have 64gb of ecc ram.

my gpu is a rtx a4000. and I have 64gb of ecc ram.

 

I swapped from a 560watt psu to a 1000w psu recently both 80 plus platinum's in both cases I use the cables supplied with each power supply. 

 

When I stress tested my PC after installing the new PSU it actually seemed happier than before. I am probably imagining it but it just seems smoother now.  

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11 hours ago, William Payne said:

Has anyone who swapped to a higher wattage PSU noticed a improvement in how you PC was running. I am not meaning going from under wattage to over wattage I am meaning having enough watts and increasing headroom.

 

My setup is a 5900x on a x570 platform with a pcie gen4 ssd and I have 64gb of ecc ram.

my gpu is a rtx a4000. and I have 64gb of ecc ram.

 

I swapped from a 560watt psu to a 1000w psu recently both 80 plus platinum's in both cases I use the cables supplied with each power supply. 

 

When I stress tested my PC after installing the new PSU it actually seemed happier than before. I am probably imagining it but it just seems smoother now.  

Placebo. 

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6 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

Placebo. 

Haha oh I’m sure I’m imagining it and it’s just my mind justifying the upgrade haha. 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Hi! I am looking for a upgrade because I got a 3080ti FE yesterday and I built my first pc a month ago, I have a Seasonic Focus GX 650W 80+ Gold and I don't know if this is fine with my build :

 

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  
ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  
Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  
Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  
Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Founders Edition Video Card  
ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wdp3cT

On pcpartpicker it says "estimated wattage : 544w". Is my PSU enough for this build ?

 

My build is quite atypical so I don't really know what to take with a 3080ti FE and a 5600X. And I read somewhere that the 3080ti FE can go off the power limit such as 420w so I don't know what I need as a PSU.

So do you have any recommendations for PSUs to offer me please?

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18 hours ago, PCelle said:

Hi! I am looking for a upgrade because I got a 3080ti FE yesterday and I built my first pc a month ago, I have a Seasonic Focus GX 650W 80+ Gold and I don't know if this is fine with my build :

 

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  
ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  
Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  
Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  
Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Founders Edition Video Card  
ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wdp3cT

On pcpartpicker it says "estimated wattage : 544w". Is my PSU enough for this build ?

 

My build is quite atypical so I don't really know what to take with a 3080ti FE and a 5600X. And I read somewhere that the 3080ti FE can go off the power limit such as 420w so I don't know what I need as a PSU.

So do you have any recommendations for PSUs to offer me please?

Start a new thread.

 

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Would be keen to hear views (especially jonny's) about whether it's worth me finally retiring my 10 year old AX750.

 

Current system power draw:

  • 5900X running a 4.65GHz all-core PBO2 overclock (pulling about 200w peak package if HWMonitor is to be believed) 
  • Gigabyte X570S Pro motherboard
  • 32GB Trident Z 3600 CL16
  • 4 TB NVMe storage
  • RTX 2080 @2055MHz core
  • D5 pump
  • Handful of LED strips
  • Handful of USB devices

I'm going to be moving to either a 3080ti or 3090 depending on availability at or near RRP when I come to buy, likely an EVGA FTW3 or similar tier- so most like 3x8-pin. I will be overclocking as far as power, cooling (720mm radiator space) and silicon lottery will allow me to achieve with 24/7 stability.

 

Consensus view seems to be 850 minimum for that sort of requirement. I have a second hand RM850X I acquired for free from a colleague who moved to UAE, plus the trusty AX750 I've been using in every build I've done since like 2011. My current inclination is to go HX1200 as they're readily available for under £200, well regarded and give plenty of headroom (and flog the other two to pay for it), but open to other suggestions. 

[ P R O J E C T _ M E L L I F E R A ]

[ 5900X @4.7GHz PBO2 | X570S Aorus Pro | 32GB GSkill Trident Z 3600MHz CL16 | EK-Quantum Reflection ]
[ ASUS RTX4080 TUF OC @3000MHz | O11D-XL | HardwareLabs GTS and GTX 360mm | XSPC D5 SATA ]

[ TechN / Phanteks G40 Blocks | Corsair AX750 | ROG Swift PG279Q | Q-Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 ]

 

P R O J E C T | S A N D W A S P

6900K | RTX2080 | 32GB DDR4-3000 | Custom Loop 

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On 5/2/2022 at 12:53 PM, HM-2 said:

Would be keen to hear views (especially jonny's) about whether it's worth me finally retiring my 10 year old AX750.

 

Current system power draw:

  • 5900X running a 4.65GHz all-core PBO2 overclock (pulling about 200w peak package if HWMonitor is to be believed) 
  • Gigabyte X570S Pro motherboard
  • 32GB Trident Z 3600 CL16
  • 4 TB NVMe storage
  • RTX 2080 @2055MHz core
  • D5 pump
  • Handful of LED strips
  • Handful of USB devices

I'm going to be moving to either a 3080ti or 3090 depending on availability at or near RRP when I come to buy, likely an EVGA FTW3 or similar tier- so most like 3x8-pin. I will be overclocking as far as power, cooling (720mm radiator space) and silicon lottery will allow me to achieve with 24/7 stability.

 

Consensus view seems to be 850 minimum for that sort of requirement. I have a second hand RM850X I acquired for free from a colleague who moved to UAE, plus the trusty AX750 I've been using in every build I've done since like 2011. My current inclination is to go HX1200 as they're readily available for under £200, well regarded and give plenty of headroom (and flog the other two to pay for it), but open to other suggestions. 

Probably not going to work.

Any further conversation should be in a new thread.

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