13.4l Full Water Cooling ITX Pc Case

[Mr Sheepy]

I need your opinion and any advice on the design below.

 

It supports up to 2x 240mm Radiators, 2x 2.5 inch solid state drives, RGB Controller, Full Length Graphics card, SFX Power supply, and a ITX motherboard, with a custom res in the front. 

Both sides are tempered glass and the front IO is 4 USB's and 2 Type C connections with audio in and out. 

 

Any Suggestions? 

[Sorenson]

It looks good, it will need feet for the bottom 240 to get air flow though. Isn't 2x240 radiators overkill? what kind of hardware are you stuffing in it?

[Zando_]

6 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

It looks good, it will need feet for the bottom 240 to get air flow though. Isn't 2x240 radiators overkill? what kind of hardware are you stuffing in it?

Given that you have 2080 Tis and can stuff everything from a 6950X to a 7980XE to a 9900K to the Ryzen 3950X - when it comes out - on an mITX mobo, 2x 240mm rads isn't overkill at all. SFF guys are always finding ways to stuff stupidly overpowered hardware in tiny boxes. 

IIRC @Damascus has a teeny tiny case he made himself and has ran the aforementioned 6950X in it (and you're getting one again, right?) and some X299 stuff on a custom loop. 

[Mr Sheepy]

RTX 2080 TI, AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 

[TVwazhere]

1 hour ago, Mr Sheepy said:

I need your opinion and any advice on the design below.

 

It supports up to 2x 240mm Radiators, 2x 2.5 inch solid state drives, RGB Controller, Full Length Graphics card, SFX Power supply, and a ITX motherboard, with a custom res in the front. 

Both sides are tempered glass and the front IO is 4 USB's and 2 Type C connections with audio in and out. 

 

Any Suggestions? 

I like it. finally a case where dual TG side panels makes sense, since all the airflow is through the top and bottom.

 

How long can the GPU be? some aftermarket PCB's are pretty long, and some GPU waterblocks can get kinda tall so clearances for those is pretty important.

[Sorenson]

1 hour ago, Zando Bob said:

Given that you have 2080 Tis and can stuff everything from a 6950X to a 7980XE to a 9900K to the Ryzen 3950X - when it comes out - on an mITX mobo, 2x 240mm rads isn't overkill at all. SFF guys are always finding ways to stuff stupidly overpowered hardware in tiny boxes. 

IIRC @Damascus has a teeny tiny case he made himself and has ran the aforementioned 6950X in it (and you're getting one again, right?) and some X299 stuff on a custom loop. 

That is true, that’s why I was asking what he was putting in the case. If it was an i7 and a 2070 he could get away with a single 240 radiator. He’s essentially made a loque ghost S1 with two “top hats”, like jay did in his SFF custom loop build. Even still, given that it is only one 2080 ti he could probably do a 280 at the top and a 120 exhaust if he wanted. But, that would get rid of the space where he has the reservoir and pump.

[Zando_]

53 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

I like it. finally a case where dual TG side panels makes sense, since all the airflow is through the top and bottom.

 

How long can the GPU be? some aftermarket PCB's are pretty long, and some GPU waterblocks can get kinda tall so clearances for those is pretty important.

What's your opinion on still keeping 2.5" HDD slots? Think removing them would add enough clearance to actually be useful? If this case is targeting enthusiasts, I assume they'd be fine with going all M.2 and a lot of higher end mITX mobos have two slots onboard. 
 

20 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

That is true, that’s why I was asking what he was putting in the case. If it was an i7 and a 2070 he could get away with a single 240 radiator. He’s essentially made a loque ghost S1 with two “top hats”, like jay did in his SFF custom loop build. Even still, given that it is only one 2080 ti he could probably do a 280 at the top and a 120 exhaust if he wanted. But, that would get rid of the space where he has the reservoir and pump.

True true. I built a rig a while ago (december 2017) for a friend that's running an i7 6700K and R9 290X off a single 280 rad with no issues, and that's a rather hot card. 

And this looks like it'd be easier to build in than the ghost with two top hats, the hats seemed kinda fiddly. It won't go as small since they don't look removable, but for a purpose-built SFF watercooling chassis it looks great. 

[TVwazhere]

35 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

What's your opinion on still keeping 2.5" HDD slots? Think removing them would add enough clearance to actually be useful? If this case is targeting enthusiasts, I assume they'd be fine with going all M.2 and a lot of higher end mITX mobos have two slots onboard.

Personally I sill like 2.5" drives, as I dont believe omitting them offers a significant spacer savings being only 7mm tall (about 1/4")

[Mr Sheepy]

Max GPU lengthis 30cm, with a width of 5cm 

 

with regards to building in the case, I've designed to making building as easy as possible, the difficult part is tubing, however, only for hard tubing

[Kilrah]

No side or front/back intake? 

That means one rad will be blowing warm air into the case/onto the other rad. 

 

Feels like at some point the decrease in efficiency would make having 2 rads useless, one operated efficiently would do just as well.

[Mr Sheepy]

@Kilrah

 

Its a good question. However, from simulations, it doesn't seem to have much impact. Which makes sense as if you have fans on the front and back its doing the same thing, just from the front instead of the bottom. I do see a small issues with restricting airflow if the feet aren't high enough. 

 

But I'm not an expert so if someone has more knowledge on this, can you let us know?

[Fasauceome]

How does airflow through the bottom work? It looks completely closed off.

[Mr Sheepy]

@Fasauceome

there will be feet on the bottom of the case, Im still currently coming up with a look for them. 

[fabafaba]

Wow, that's looking great! I can't really tell from the angles of your renders, but you might want to check clearance for the tubing and fittings going from the CPU block to the bottom of the case. I can imagine it interfering with VRM heatsinks on some mainboards. Another thing I can't see is a god way to route the EPS cable, it looks like it'll be hard to not have it get into the fans when they're mounted on the inside.