Corsair H80i v2

[Tiffanysinyee]

If I deploy a 3600, will the H80i v2 with a 120 mm radiator be able to handle the heat, I use it for gaming.

[Jurrunio]

Easily yes. I mean, even cheap air coolers can cool it just as well

[Tiffanysinyee]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Easily yes. I mean, even cheap air coolers can cool it just as well

Under what conditions should deploy 240 mm radiator then?

[Jurrunio]

23 minutes ago, Tiffanysinyee said:

Under what conditions should deploy 240 mm radiator then?

when the chassis you're building in can't hold a tower cooler with 140mm fan, or the 12 or 16 core.

[Tiffanysinyee]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

when the chassis you're building in can't hold a tower cooler with 140mm fan, or the 12 or 16 core.

Ok, thanks for the help.

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Tiffanysinyee said:

Ok, thanks for the help.

The 3600 is an extremely efficient CPU - you don't need much to cool it. An AIO only makes sense for the 3900X or Intel

[Tiffanysinyee]

11 hours ago, 5x5 said:

The 3600 is an extremely efficient CPU - you don't need much to cool it. An AIO only makes sense for the 3900X or Intel

So, the 9400F is not as efficient as the 3600? Would that be so? So H60 will be sufficient?

[5x5]

38 minutes ago, Tiffanysinyee said:

So, the 9400F is not as efficient as the 3600? Would that be so? So H60 will be sufficient?

The 9400F is slower, hotter and uses more power than the 3600, yes. The i5 is an all round inferior CPU in every single.way possible since it's locked, doesn't support quick sync and is hampered with slow memory

[Tiffanysinyee]

2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

The 9400F is slower, hotter and uses more power than the 3600, yes. The i5 is an all round inferior CPU in every single.way possible since it's locked, doesn't support quick sync and is hampered with slow memory

So even with 3200 MHz memory sticks, it just wastes them?

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Tiffanysinyee said:

So even with 3200 MHz memory sticks, it just wastes them?

The i5 can't use 3200MHz memory. It's limited to 2666 unless.ypu buy an expensive Z390 motherboard

[Tiffanysinyee]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

The i5 can't use 3200MHz memory. It's limited to 2666 unless.ypu buy an expensive Z390 motherboard

Oh, it's in my plan to get the Z390. So with Z390, the i5 can fully utilize the full bandwidth?

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Tiffanysinyee said:

Oh, it's in my plan to get the Z390. So with Z390, the i5 can fully utilize the full bandwidth?

Yes but it's still much slower. And a Z390 board is an extreme waste of a slow CPU like the 9400F. i5s are dead. Take this from an i7 user, i5s are NOT worth the money AT all. You're better off buying the 3700X with a B450 board since it's almost the same price as a i5 with a Z390. At that point you get 9900K performance for MUCH cheaper

[Tiffanysinyee]

2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Yes but it's still much slower. And a Z390 board is an extreme waste of a slow CPU like the 9400F. i5s are dead. Take this from an i7 user, i5s are NOT worth the money AT all. You're better off buying the 3700X with a B450 board since it's almost the same price as a i5 with a Z390. At that point you get 9900K performance for MUCH cheaper

My biggest regret is that I have not updating myself on the subject since Feb 2013 after my current system was built.

[Tiffanysinyee]

Could you get me a review of the Z390 chipset?

Also is the 8600K..etc ok?

[5x5]

3 minutes ago, Tiffanysinyee said:

Could you get me a review of the Z390 chipset?

Also is the 8600K..etc ok?

No, the 8600K is not only slow, it's overpriced. Seriously, don't buy i5s in 2019. i7s at least have an argument or two in their favour but in most cases, AMD Ryzen 3000 is far more efficient, powerful, cooler, secure and cheaper

[Tiffanysinyee]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

No, the 8600K is not only slow, it's overpriced. Seriously, don't buy i5s in 2019. i7s at least have an argument or two in their favour but in most cases, AMD Ryzen 3000 is far more efficient, powerful, cooler, secure and cheaper

Is it really cooler and stable, AMD products always give me an impression that they are hotter.

 

In fact, I bought a RX 570 recently, it always get very hot when playing games like Civilization VI and Railway Empire, these are just strategy games...

[5x5]

Just now, Tiffanysinyee said:

Is it really cooler and stable, AMD products always give me an impression that they are hotter.

 

In fact, I bought a RX 570 recently, it always get very hot when playing games like Civilization VI and Railway Empire, these are just strategy games...

GPUs aren't CPUs. The 3600 gives you performance like the i7 8700 while using less power than an i5. It runs cooler cause AMD use solder and not cheap paste like most intel CPUs.

[Tiffanysinyee]

5 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

GPUs aren't CPUs. The 3600 gives you performance like the i7 8700 while using less power than an i5. It runs cooler cause AMD use solder and not cheap paste like most intel CPUs.

But I heard that the 7nm has hinder the cooling capacity of the 3600...

[5x5]

Just now, Tiffanysinyee said:

But I heard that the 7nm has hinder the cooling capacity of the 3600...

??? No? Why would it?? Heat DENSITY is not cooling capacity....

 

 

Look, if you're looking for an excuse to buy an inferior CPU, your choice but there is a reason Zen2/Ryzen 3000 is moving triple th volume of Intel CPUs in Asia and why Intel s own internal presentations state they won't be competitive until 2021 when their 7nm is due

[Tiffanysinyee]

Just now, 5x5 said:

??? No? Why would it?? Heat DENSITY is not cooling capacity....

 

 

Look, if you're looking for an excuse to buy an inferior CPU, your choice but there is a reason Zen2/Ryzen 3000 is moving triple th volume of Intel CPUs in Asia and why Intel s own internal presentations state they won't be competitive until 2021 when their 7nm is due

It's just that my 3570K is still very usable, only that my Bitfenix Prodigy case is broken, and the Asus P8Z77-I deluxe is so dusted near the CPU and the VRM that make me go for a total rebuild. I could probably go on with this ripple system...

 

Now you nearly convince me, 

 

can I ask you a question about case since you are so knowledgeable...

 

The Silverstone RVZ03, if I build a X570+3600 combo with my RX 570 OC and a SF PUS, will the rig be cool enough to run games, I reject over 65C GPU and CPU temp,

also my RX 570 OC though has dual fans but the card itself is not as long as those GTX 2080, 2070...etc, I am worried if the fans of my RX 570 can align with the fan cutout of the RVZ03 coz I intend to fill those two cutouts with 2000 rpm fans.

[5x5]

Just now, Tiffanysinyee said:

It's just that my 3570K is still very usable, only that my Bitfenix Prodigy case is broken, and the Asus P8Z77-I deluxe is so dusted near the CPU and the VRM that make me go for a total rebuild. I could probably go on with this ripple system...

 

Now you nearly convince me, 

 

can I ask you a question about case since you are so knowledgeable...

 

The Silverstone RVZ03, if I build a X570+3600 combo with my RX 570 OC and a SF PUS, will the rig be cool enough to run games, I reject over 65C GPU and CPU temp,

also my RX 570 OC though has dual fans but the card itself is not as long as those GTX 2080, 2070...etc, I am worried if the fans of my RX 570 can align with the fan cutout of the RVZ03 coz I intend to fill those two cutouts with 2000 rpm fans.

Under 65 means you need to get a decent cooler. Something like the Dark Rock Pro 4.

 

But realistically, everything under 90 is safe and everything under 80 basically great

[Tiffanysinyee]

2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Under 65 means you need to get a decent cooler. Something like the Dark Rock Pro 4.

 

But realistically, everything under 90 is safe and everything under 80 basically great

I m not a believer in Air Cooler, I will go for AIO Water Cooler.

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Tiffanysinyee said:

I m not a believer in Air Cooler, I will go for AIO Water Cooler.

Unless you buy a 240mm high end aio, the dark rock Pro will give better results. Water is mostly for looks. Air coolers usually perform the same for less money

[Tiffanysinyee]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

Unless you buy a 240mm high end aio, the dark rock Pro will give better results. Water is mostly for looks. Air coolers usually perform the same for less money

I really cant stand the noise, I recently installed a Furious Vardar 3000 rpm fan as exhaust on my Bitfenix, running at 1566 rpm, I can hear the noise.

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, Tiffanysinyee said:

I really cant stand the noise, I recently installed a Furious Vardar 3000 rpm fan as exhaust on my Bitfenix, running at 1566 rpm, I can hear the noise.

How will you handle the pump noise then? It's usually louder than an FDB fan