Walmart sues tesla for solar panel fires at 7 stores

[The King of the Undead]

44 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Tesla, and Tesla

is this what you meant to say or is there a different company involved?

[GoodBytes]

28 minutes ago, will4623 said:

is this what you meant to say or is there a different company involved?

Sorry I was typing on my phone. I have improved my post

[Syntaxvgm]

17 hours ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

The hint is to get a Chrysler, a Ford or a GM with a decent V8. Because we suck ass at making 4-cyls with hairdryers and non-V8 based V6 cars.

 

17 hours ago, OlympicAssEater said:

Oh lord, no

 

Tesla vehicles are not reliable at all, and you are telling me they should get an engine from unreliable company like Chrysler or GM. 

TBH I'd rather deal with the potential of a battery fire than another Chrysler. Burning to death might actually be a preferable alternative if my income were high enough. 

[mr moose]

So basically Tesla bought a company that did some dodgy installs and people think it was Telsa that cut corners?

 

 

[GoodBytes]

2 hours ago, mr moose said:

So basically Tesla bought a company that did some dodgy installs and people think it was Telsa that cut corners?

 

 

Exactly.

[Dujith]

14 hours ago, mr moose said:

So basically Tesla bought a company that did some dodgy installs and people think it was Telsa that cut corners?

 

 

I dont know what happend, but i do know what should have happend.

A few years ago we took over a solar panel installer (so many new ones around specially a few years ago) and we made sure to have all the documentation and inspected his sites before finalizing anything. 

Ended up having to adjust a few sites due to bad grounding and in 1 case bad connectors that were already starting to heat up.

 

So the way i am seeing this Tesla did cut corners by not knowing what they bought or bothered to inspect it.

[ThePD]

On 8/20/2019 at 10:31 PM, Dan Castellaneta said:

If it’s worth any salt, I’ve been around a lot of Chryslers with the Hemis (a number of 5.7s, 6.1s and 6.4s) and they’ve never been big problem children from what I’ve seen. Build quality and electronics are another story (even then my dad’s never had issues with electronics but there were some build quality issues with our 2012 Jeep SRT) but the Hemis have largely been alright. 

I currently have a 2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 5.7 Hemi. 162K miles and still pumping. Total repair cost in two years of ownership has been 84 dollars.

[dalekphalm]

If it can be shown that Solar City was indeed responsible for the fire (bad installation, etc) - then Tesla should step up and do site inspections on every single of Walmart's 200-some-odd sites.

 

And then Tesla should fix any that are deficient, at no cost to Walmart.

 

And I think that Walmart should let Tesla do this, rather than disconnecting and uninstalling all their solar arrays. Feel free to still demand some kind of monetary settlement, but I would think actually solving the problem would be more useful.

 

Tesla should have done site inspections when they took over Solar City - but I suspect they didn't think they needed to, since Musk was already involved in both companies.

[Monkey Dust]

19 hours ago, mr moose said:

So basically Tesla bought a company that did some dodgy installs and people think it was Telsa that cut corners?

 

 

How many of these fires occurred after Tesla acquired Solar City? If it's two or more I'd say Tesla should have checked the installs before Walmart resorted to legal action.

[dalekphalm]

11 minutes ago, Monkey Dust said:

How many of these fires occurred after Tesla acquired Solar City? If it's two or more I'd say Tesla should have checked the installs before Walmart resorted to legal action.

There's a lot of unknown information right now. Apparently Tesla failed to provide a detailed analysis that confirms what caused the fires - but is that because they didn't do an analysis/investigation at all? Or they couldn't find the cause? Or they did find the cause, and simply didn't tell Walmart?

We simply don't know.

 

We actually don't even know for sure whether it was the Solar Panel equipment that caused the fires - just Walmart saying it did. I would say it's a safe bet that the solar equipment is responsible, though.

[mr moose]

8 hours ago, Dujith said:

I dont know what happend, but i do know what should have happend.

A few years ago we took over a solar panel installer (so many new ones around specially a few years ago) and we made sure to have all the documentation and inspected his sites before finalizing anything. 

Ended up having to adjust a few sites due to bad grounding and in 1 case bad connectors that were already starting to heat up.

 

So the way i am seeing this Tesla did cut corners by not knowing what they bought or bothered to inspect it.

 

When large companies take over other large companies they do not go and check every job they did, that is just not feasible in most cases.   There are something like 240 installs, 7 had issues and we don't know how many of the remaining were done by this other company.  For all we know Telsa could have checked 10 sites after the the initial 7 and found nothing.  There is nothing in any of this news to suggest Telsa have cut any corners.  For that you need to see some sort of evidence.

[mr moose]

3 hours ago, Monkey Dust said:

How many of these fires occurred after Tesla acquired Solar City? If it's two or more I'd say Tesla should have checked the installs before Walmart resorted to legal action.

How do you know they didn't?  how do we know what number of installs were done by each company and which ones had issues?

 

How do we know Telsa didn't check 20 sites and discover nothing wrong after the initial 7 but Walmart decided to sue anyway?

 

We know nothing, so drawing conclusions that Telsa cut corners when all we know is the other company is at fault is not exactly rational.