Trump targets games

[spartaman64]

1 minute ago, steelo said:

 

"cover his ass"

 

I mean, if you believe that any president is 100% responsible for every mass shooting under his or her watch then I don't know how to help you...

i think its overstated how much trump influenced the shooter as the shooter probably held those views beforehand but its undeniable that they have the same views and trump was probably one of many people that fed into those views

[Sauron]

Just now, steelo said:

Both 'sides' do this.

 

For example, look at the leftists visiting college campuses attempting to convince 18-19 year olds how 'wonderful' socialism is (ask Venezuela how great it is). Antifa and White Supremacist groups go after young adults who are easily influenced.

Lmao, college protests are the same as shootings now? Please.

[adman29]

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

I defy you to find a single politically motivated leftist mass shooting in the west in the last decade.

Well there was that one guy who shot up all the republicans at baseball practice, but that's about it lol.

 

With Right wing terror you got:

Dylan Roof
Idiot in El Paso
Not really a shooting but an act of violence, but the idiots who took over the wildlife refuge in oregon a few years back
The guy who shot up tree of life Synagogue

Guy who shot up the JCC in Kansas in like 2014

Guy who shot 3 indian guys in Kansas like 2 years ago

Not really a shooting but the guy who ran over 14 people in Charlottesville

Arguably Marjory Stoneman

 

This is all I can list off the top of my head and I haven't been in debate for like 3 years.

[steelo]

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

I never said that. He's "covering his ass" in the sense that he doesn't want people to see that it's his ideas that get people to do this sort of stuff. He is also personally responsible for making that sort of thinking more mainstream, but obviously not directly responsible for every single shooting.

Please provide me a source where Trump instructed anybody to perform a mass shooting.

[JohnMc45]

20 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Blunt objects, vehicles, food, etc.

 

Everything is a weapon.

The guy in Japan use a jerry can of gas and a match.  

[steelo]

1 minute ago, adman29 said:

Well there was that one guy who shot up all the republicans at baseball practice, but that's about it lol.

 

With Right wing terror you got:

Dylan Roof
Idiot in El Paso
Not really a shooting but an act of violence, but the idiots who took over the wildlife refuge in oregon a few years back
The guy who shot up tree of life Synagogue

Guy who shot up the JCC in Kansas in like 2014

Guy who shot 3 indian guys in Kansas like 2 years ago

Not really a shooting but the guy who ran over 14 people in Charlottesville

Arguably Marjory Stoneman

 

This is all I can list off the top of my head and I haven't been in debate for like 3 years.

 

Not an act of terrorism but pretty sick.

[Sauron]

2 minutes ago, adman29 said:

Well there was that one guy who shot up all the republicans at baseball practice, but that's about it lol.

Interesting, is there a link?

[adman29]

1 minute ago, steelo said:

Both 'sides' do this.

 

For example, look at the leftists visiting college campuses attempting to convince 18-19 year olds how 'wonderful' socialism is (ask Venezuela how great it is). Antifa and White Supremacist groups often go after young adults who are easily influenced to join.

This is a little off topic, but do your research into Venezuela before knocking it as a socialist nation. Honestly nothing in the west or east is legitimately socialist anymore, other than possibly Vietnam, and things are pretty peachy over there. Most things on College campuses are pushing for an increased social safety net, not actual socialism.
 

[spartaman64]

1 minute ago, steelo said:

Please provide me a source where Trump instructed anybody to perform a mass shooting.

he doesnt need to directly instruct one. he calls a group of people rapists and criminals then it lowers the moral barrier to killing them

[adman29]

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

Interesting, is there a link?

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/06/politics/congressional-shooter-70-rounds/index.html

A lot of lefties, including me think it might be a false flag, but it's looking more and more like he was one of us.

Remember Y'all, violence is never the answer until the day there is no other option.

[JohnMc45]

9 minutes ago, Sauron said:

The studies on this are quite robust and pretty conclusive. There is no correlation. Shooters are found to play videogames because unfortunately they tend to be young people without a solid social sphere.

No, this "both sides" bullshit is just the excuse Trump uses to cover his ass. Politically motivated terror in the west in the past few years has been exclusively right wing. The democrats aren't great, but there really is no comparison - republicans are an order of magnitude worse. I defy you to find a single politically motivated leftist mass shooting in the west in the last decade. Or a leftist rally where a car charged into the crowd killing a person and injuring many others. I can easily provide examples of both on the right.

There was a number of Police officers shot in attacks after the left pushed it's "All cops a racists that just drive around looking for African Americans to shoot"  idea out there.  

 

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When you bring the wood, the gasoline and the matches, yes... You ARE responsible! Even more so when you are a "president"

[Crunchy Dragon]

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