do you think Intel will bankrupt after the launch of Ryzen 3000 series ?

[Tamy24the]

as we know Ryzen 3000 series is stronger than Intel i9 and is cheaper

so why buying from Intel anymore ?

[LukeSavenije]

because 10th gen is out?

 

because intel isn't just a cpu maker?

 

because this is what we call hype train?

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, Tamy24the said:

as we know Ryzen 3000 series is stronger than Intel i9 and is cheaper

so why buying from Intel anymore ?

its probably better or identical. wait for benchmarks. 

 

 

Intel isnt dying soon, keep in mind AMD survived years. and they havent had deep pockets. Intel has very deep pockets, they can go a decade without a succesful product. not to mention mindshare.  

 

edit: that is ignoring all the other stuff they make

[Zagna]

No. Intel sells more CPUs to just one of the big OEMs like Dell than AMD all together. So even if the entire DIY sector went AMD, Intel would still sell many times more than AMD.

[Tamy24the]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

because 10th gen is out?

 

because intel isn't just a cpu maker?

 

because this is what we call hype train?

I mean why buy i7 cpu from Intel if we can Ryzen 3000 series which is the same price as i7 and Stronger than Intel i9 ?

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Tamy24the said:

I mean why buy i7 cpu from Intel if we can Ryzen 3000 series which is the same price as i7 and Stronger than Intel i9 ?

because you can't know that

 

there are NO reviews out

[Ross Siggers]

They will lose market share and see reduced profits from their CPU's...

 

....that's all.

Like @LukeSavenije alluded to, bitches all be ridin' the hype train.

[Tamy24the]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

its probably better or identical. wait for benchmarks. 

 

 

Intel isnt dying soon, keep in mind AMD survived years. and they havent had deep pockets. Intel has very deep pockets, they can go a decade without a succesful product. not to mention mindshare.  

 

edit: that is ignoring all the other stuff they make

I mean by my question

why the average Gamer buy i7 From Intel when he can buy Ryzen 3000 which is the Same Price as i7 and Stronger than Intel i9

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Ross Siggers said:

They will lose market share and see reduced profits from their CPU's...

yep, so they still have modems, 5g tech, soon maybe gpus, they have a massive fab production, things like that can still be used to survive if amd would entirely take over

[Robin_Code]

When people buy a PC and they don't know much about computers they usually look at ''i5 or i7'' and automatically assume it's a godly machine. Intel has build up a really respectable name, so for a really long period of time, they will live despite not being the best. This will obviously change over time if they don't improvise but if that's the case we're talking at least 2-3 years. 

[WereCatf]

11 minutes ago, Tamy24the said:

do you think Intel will bankrupt after the launch of Ryzen 3000 series ?

You'd have to be an absolute moron to think that would be enough to bankrupt Intel. They have literal tens of billions in assets, plus they do a lot more than just sell desktop- and mobile-CPUs, you know.

[Tamy24the]

Just now, Robin_Code said:

When people buy a PC and they don't know much about computers they usually look at ''i5 or i7'' and automatically assume it's a godly machine. Intel has build up a really respectable name, so for a really long period of time, they will live despite not being the best. This will obviously change over time if they don't improvise but if that's the case we're talking at least 2-3 years. 

I think even a little kid before asking his parents to buy him a PC will do some research and watch some youtube videos right ?

we are in 2019

[porina]

Performance is only one part. Price is only one part. Why people buy things is way more complicated than that.

 

To twist it around a bit, why is 3rd gen so much more of a game changer than 1st and 2nd gen Ryzen? For general uses, but not every use case, you got more overall performance for less money. 3rd gen removes more of those "not every case" scenarios.

 

This is an advantage to AMD for now, but how long that will last is anyone's guess. They will continue to take some market share off Intel. Intel for sure are not sitting still. They had delays on 10nm which is opening the door for AMD, but AMD still have to get as much through as they can.

[porina]

5 minutes ago, Tamy24the said:

why the average Gamer buy i7 From Intel when he can buy Ryzen 3000 which is the Same Price as i7 and Stronger than Intel i9

Gaming is a special area when it comes to how performance is impacted by CPU. We just don't know how 3rd gen will behave in that until it is independently tested. Other compute uses are more easy to predict.

[Ross Siggers]

They might have to drop Jim Parsons from their adverts...

Oh NO  

[Dedayog]

18 minutes ago, Tamy24the said:

as we know Ryzen 3000 series is stronger than Intel i9 and is cheaper

so why buying from Intel anymore ?

Are you serious?

 

Trolls, they don't live under bridges anymore

[Robin_Code]

8 minutes ago, Tamy24the said:

I think even a little kid before asking his parents to buy him a PC will do some research and watch some youtube videos right ?

 we are in 2019

I certainly would but I can name at least 10 people who just hear ''i7'' and presume it's a godly PC just from it's CPU. 

[GoldenLag]

18 minutes ago, Tamy24the said:

why the average Gamer buy i7 From Intel when he can buy Ryzen 3000 which is the Same Price as i7 and Stronger than Intel i9

mindshare. happened a lot between AMD and Nvidia

[X-System]

12 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

It would take a long time for Intel to go bankrupt due to how much money they have.

It reminds me Lehman Brothers who had billions of dollars but they got bankrupt

 

It's not the question how Intel is rich. It's the question of the quantity of CPU sold. If they always sell many CPU, it goes not bankrupt.

[Pachuca]

45 minutes ago, Tamy24the said:

as we know Ryzen 3000 series is stronger than Intel i9 and is cheaper

so why buying from Intel anymore ?

because intel is a very large company that does a lot more than just cpu chip manufacturing. 

because amd is tiny compared to intel and only recently caught up to them after many years of being behind

since AMD didn't go bankrupt all those years with intel dominating I doubt intel will go bankrupt now that AMD caught up.

I expect to see better stuff from intel in the years to come.

[Jtalk4456]

11 minutes ago, Tamy24the said:

I think even a little kid before asking his parents to buy him a PC will do some research and watch some youtube videos right ?

we are in 2019

i don't know how you're equating 2019 with people doing their due diligence. Let me run thru this with you:

1. The little kid isn't doing research because he's a little kid

2. Even if he does research, his parents are the one going to best buy and paying for the rig, meaning they will find the cheapest one that says gaming or ask the rep for the cheapest gaming rig and any research he does is out the window

3. People do less research than they used to. When a product is expensive people will do more research and make sure the fortune they are parting with is well spent. when a product is so mass produced that it becomes a cheap household commodity, people do less research, because they aren't spending a small fortune on it. Most people are buying $300 laptops for a home computer right now.

25 minutes ago, Tamy24the said:

I mean by my question

why the average Gamer buy i7 From Intel when he can buy Ryzen 3000 which is the Same Price as i7 and Stronger than Intel i9

4. You're conflating the average gamer with the average PC enthusiast. While many gamers are pc enthusiasts as well, you're forgetting console gamers entirely, along with the many who just like gaming and go buy a "gaming" computer without giving a crap what's inside.

5. the i7 is a single type of chip with a few variants. The 3000 SERIES is a SERIES. a series is not better than a single sku, remember the 3000 series includes ryzen 3 which i guarantee will not beat an i7 or an i9. Semantics, sure, but I believe in doing it right or not doing it at all.

6. There are no reviews so you have no clue what the performance will be or whether it's better than an i7 let alone an i9. You are making that up

7. Why would intel go bankrupt? AMD holds between 30-40% of the market share. that means if intel suddenly vanished, AMD would have to magically ramp production up 3 times over. AMD would not be able to reach the volume to cover intel's death. All this to say that intel will still be selling chips simply because there is demand. Also you're forgetting that gamers don't make up a large percentage of users, and we're not even talking mobile chips here. There's far more demand than AMD can handle at their current level. Intel is feeling the burn right now, but it's just a burn. Their arm isn't falling off, their skin isn't peeling, they're just gonna put some aloe vera on it and get back to making chips.

8. Between the lax comparison between a series vs an i9 chip, and the way you've been responding by just repeating your original claim that ryzen stomps an i9, I can either assume you have no clue what you're talking about or you know exactly what you're talking about and are trying to start a flame war between intel and amd fans. Either way, the post is presumptuous and ridiculous and best and intentionally inflammatory at worst, so I'm reporting this to get this nonsense locked up

[WkdPaul]

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