Motherboard Tier List (EOL)

[Jurrunio]

8 minutes ago, GeLi said:

I thought the Hero was in competition with the Aorus Master VRM-wise?

Not exactly. Asus does not have insane setups like the Godlike or Xtreme, instead opting to overbuild their Hero compared to competing boards. At the same time, to balance out cost for the expensive 16 phase controller the Master uses 40A powerstages.

[Triboal]

7 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Not exactly. Asus does not have insane setups like the Godlike or Xtreme, instead opting to overbuild their Hero compared to competing boards. At the same time, to balance out cost for the expensive 16 phase controller the Master uses 40A powerstages.

Fair enough, I knew the Hero was good, just didn’t think it was in the same class as the others.

 

I thought the IR3556 were 50A powerstages? Whilst the IR3555 used in other motherboards like the MEG Ace are 60A powerstages? Is there something else that comes into this or am I getting confused?

[Jurrunio]

7 hours ago, GeLi said:

I thought the IR3556 were 50A powerstages? Whilst the IR3555 used in other motherboards like the MEG Ace are 60A powerstages? Is there something else that comes into this or am I getting confused?

oh yeah it's the Z390 Master and X570 Pro/Ultra that uses the 40A IR3553.

[Triboal]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

oh yeah it's the Z390 Master and X570 Pro/Ultra that uses the 40A IR3553.

Yeah, that rings a bell. The X570 Hero uses 60A IR3555 power stages right?

[Jurrunio]

36 minutes ago, GeLi said:

Yeah, that rings a bell. The X570 Hero uses 60A IR3555 power stages right?

Yup, Asus must have massive stock on them

[spart]

why the b450 pro carbon has a ! mark before its name?

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, spart said:

why the b450 pro carbon has a ! mark before its name?

oh, something of my fault

 

fixing right away

[Triboal]

On 10/15/2019 at 6:24 PM, Jurrunio said:

Yup, Asus must have massive stock on them

So all things considered, can I still ask why the X570 Hero can still be considered in the same tier as the Godlike and Xtreme? Tech YouTubers like HardwareUnboxed have done VRM thermal tests where they've shown that the Master performs either equal to or even sometimes outperforms the Hero. I know that's not a direct performance comparison of the VRMs themselves but it can definitely be seen as an indicator (I guess?).

 

I also want to state that I am not a Gigabyte or Aorus Master-specific fan (although, yes I do own one), I just want to understand the decision behind the different tiers between both boards. Because I completely understand why the Godlike and Xtreme (and perhaps maybe the AsRock Aqua may be in there?) are the top tier boards with their over-the-top VRMs (and price tags) but not the Hero.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, GeLi said:

Tech YouTubers like HardwareUnboxed have done VRM thermal tests where they've shown that the Master performs either equal to or even sometimes outperforms the Hero.

because the 3900X with ambient OC is the highest power draw CPU that can be tested for now and both VRM have to skip phases in order to run the powerstages at their most efficient current output. Temperature readings then only shows how good the heatsinks are, not how low the heat output is from the VRM under stress

 

1 hour ago, GeLi said:

I know that's not a direct performance comparison of the VRMs themselves but it can definitely be seen as an indicator (I guess?).

not until we get a CPU that can push at lteast the Master if not both VRM past their most efficient current draw. That will be about 180A for the Master, 230A for the Hero.

[urtv]

Does the lower tier ryzen boards mean they have worse overclock capability?

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, urtv said:

Does the lower tier ryzen boards mean they have worse overclock capability?

Generally speaking yes, but this may not hold true for all boards with all CPUs.

[redbread123]

z390 MPG Gaming plus, how is it, is it good for 4.9 ghz across all cores on 9700kf

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, redbread123 said:

z390 MPG Gaming plus, how is it, is it good for 4.9 ghz across all cores on 9700kf

only recommend it for overclocking i5s.

[anonymous12345]

Why is B450 TUF Pro Tier D? looks better than Tomahawk Max.

[Jurrunio]

15 minutes ago, anonymous12345 said:

looks better

Measuring the top of the heatsink means nothing because what gets the hottest is underneath them. For example you cant measure the body core temperature by pointing an IR gun to someone's chin, you'll always get a lower reading.

[venciyes]

Hello guys, thanks for the time to put the list! 

I'll get ryzen 3950x, 2070S, and 64 gb ram. Also will put noctua NH-D15 and will try to overclock more or less.(not trying to push the overclock at its max.. Well depends..) 

 

So do you recommend me gigabyte master or Taichi? 

 

Taichi is a nice prize, and has USB c for the case tho .. 

I know master is better, but if taichi will do same job for my needs I'll go with it. Plus it's T topology. 

 

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, venciyes said:

but if taichi will do same job for my needs I'll go with it.

If you dont have high expectations for overclocking the Taichi will do the job

 

1 hour ago, venciyes said:

Plus it's T topology. 

The engineering sample board is, the retail version is back to daisy chain again

[Totally Average Gameplay]

How on earth is my Pro M2 better than the V2?

[Jurrunio]

14 minutes ago, Totally Average Gameplay said:

How on earth is my Pro M2 better than the V2?

V2 boards gone backwards in terms of mosfet choice.

[Totally Average Gameplay]

28 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

V2 boards gone backwards in terms of mosfet choice.

I thought they were the same, the v2 was supposedly the more updated one.

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, Totally Average Gameplay said:

I thought they were the same, the v2 was supposedly the more updated one.

board vendors speak with money, they can totally trash their stuff just for profit

 

hence how their cheaper 4 X570 boards all suck for their price

[Totally Average Gameplay]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

board vendors speak with money, they can totally trash their stuff just for profit

 

hence how their cheaper 4 X570 boards all suck for their price

Learned that by just looking at their used prices

[venciyes]

8 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

If you dont have high expectations for overclocking the Taichi will do the job

Thank you. But what do you mean by high expectations? I'd like to see what noctua NH-D15 can do 

[Jurrunio]

5 hours ago, venciyes said:

Thank you. But what do you mean by high expectations? I'd like to see what noctua NH-D15 can do 

As in going competitive. 

[venciyes]

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

As in going competitive. 

Oh cool! I need it as a 3D workstation .

Thanks