STOP this fairytail please!!!

[georgefou]

gtx 770 2 gb CAN max out all games till today so easy even to 1444p

GTX 770 4 gb is a fail from nvidia.its an overkill.a stupidity

so this fairytail about the gtx 770 2 gigs bus clock and vram is JUST A BULLSHIT

[Tmh85]

but its true a 4gb card is a waste of money because it can't use all of the 4gbs

[DudeWazap]

1444p?

[Assassin]

gtx 770 2 gb CAN max out all games till today so easy even to 1444p

GTX 770 4 gb is a fail from nvidia.its an overkill.a stupidity

so this fairytail about the gtx 770 2 gigs bus clock and vram is JUST A BULLSHIT

Good luck maxing out Crysis 3 with 8x MSAA. Evenn on 1080P with that kind of settings the GTX 770 weeps. Coming from a GTX 770 owner. Or try and max out a game with SSAA (4x) like Tomb Raider or Metro Last Light. You will barely get 10 frames. 

[WoodenMarker]

You may max out all the games but you won't get a smooth framerate with a 770 at 1440p.

The 4GB 770 is a waste for gaming since it's can't make use of all the memory but this isn't necessarily true outside of gaming.

[TheSLSAMG]

but its true a 4gb card is a waste of money because it can't use all of the 4gbs

It can use 3.2GB before it stops working. *coughs* more than an R9 280X *coughs*

[Suika]

Games are planned to pass the 2GB mark in a small while. The 770 can play games now, but sooner or later, it won't do as well as if it had more VRAM.

 

4GB isn't completely useless either, the 770 can still use about 3.2GB of it. If there were a 3GB version, it'd be a bit more reasonable, but whatever. It's Nvidia.

[Jogostar]

Good luck maxing out Crysis 3 on even 1080P with a single 770. Coming from a GTX 770 owner. 

I have no problem whatsoever doing so.

only thing turned down is aa.

stead 45 frames. (it's enough for me)

[Assassin]

I have no problem whatsoever doing so.

only thing turned down is aa.

stead 45 frames. (it's enough for me)

By max out i meant 8x MSAA

[Jogostar]

By max out i meant 8x MSAA

well tha's another story.

but usually at 1080p 2xmsaa is enough

for me atleast.

[das affe]

I said something similar 1 hour ago.. about my 4gb 1440p.. duuno if you're referring to that. but gta is getting 2.7gb very very smooth. crysis 2 the same. 
not a waste of money if youre smart and gettin it cheap.

[X1XNobleX1X]

1444p?

What is that alien technology?

[Bloodyvalley]

The higher the resolution the more memory is needed.

 

While I do agree that a 256 bit bus is a big bottleneck, I don't necessarily think that 4GB won't be of good use.

 

 

FIrst of all, let's define a memory bus.

 

Think of it as a highway. A highway with 4 lanes will have more cars than a highway with 2 lanes, correct? Therefore, more cars can pass. That's the point of a memory bus. It acts like a highway for the information. There are 256 lanes on that specific model. On a 280X for example, there a 384 lanes, so the former has more lanes.

 

There'es your definition of memory bus.

 

Now you're telling me that 4GB of information can go through that memory bus? Hell no. That memory bus was designed for 2GB. The only reason they put 4GB is for marketing. The GPU manufacturers cannot change the chip content therefore they cannot change the bus size.

 

nVidia does not seem to understand how a memory bus works. Look at the GTX Titan! It has a 384 bit bus yet it has an amazing 6GB of GDDR5 RAM!

 

Bring us 512 bit please

[Thecrazyswede]

I use 780 SLI on 1440p and its still chugs in stuff like metro last light on max and all the other high end new games.... i cant even guess what stuff like Star citizen and Elite dangerous will run like

 

if you think you can max 1440p on a 770 then go ahead, its not about the memory, its about the POWWAAAH

[binman13]

It can use 3.2GB before it stops working. *coughs* more than an R9 280X *coughs*

The R9 280x (not in the US or Canada) is over 100 dollars cheaper than the 4 GB 770...and even though it has 200 mb less usable VRAM, the Memory Bus speed is a much bigger boost than the tiny memory increase.

[TheSLSAMG]

The R9 280x (not in the US or Canada) is over 100 dollars cheaper than the 4 GB 770...and even though it has 200 mb less usable VRAM, the Memory Bus speed is a much bigger boost than the tiny memory increase.

The key here is not in the US or Canada. In Canada, it's $410 for a 4GB 770 and it's $440 for a 280X. In the USA, it's $370 for a 4GB 770 and $400 for an R9 280X. I live in the US, so I am judging by my prices and those of the Canadians.

[mopman94]

Games are planned to pass the 2GB mark in a small while. The 770 can play games now, but sooner or later, it won't do as well as if it had more VRAM.

 

4GB isn't completely useless either, the 770 can still use about 3.2GB of it. If there were a 3GB version, it'd be a bit more reasonable, but whatever. It's Nvidia.

The recommended VRAM for BF4 is already 3GB. On my 7870 (2GB) if I want to play that game on ultra I have to turn AA off, if I had a 3GB card I wouldn't have that problem.

[binman13]

The key here is not in the US or Canada. In Canada, it's $410 for a 4GB 770 and it's $440 for a 280X. In the USA, it's $370 for a 4GB 770 and $400 for an R9 280X. I live in the US, so I am judging by my prices and those of the Canadians.

Ok then, everywhere else in the world, the 280x is monumentally cheaper.

If you hadnt noticed, nVidia gives the middle finger to anybody who doesnt live in North America.

[Glenwing]

but its true a 4gb card is a waste of money because it can't use all of the 4gbs

 

The 4GB version can't quite use all 4GB, but the 2GB version can't use anything over 2GB which is even worse.  Games do go over 2GB of VRAM usage, the 4GB version isn't necessarily a complete waste even if it can't use every last megabyte.

 

That being said I still think it's not a very good buy.

[Jasmin]

The higher the resolution the more memory is needed.

 

While I do agree that a 256 bit bus is a big bottleneck, I don't necessarily think that 4GB won't be of good use.

 

 

FIrst of all, let's define a memory bus.

 

Think of it as a highway. A highway with 4 lanes will have more cars than a highway with 2 lanes, correct? Therefore, more cars can pass. That's the point of a memory bus. It acts like a highway for the information. There are 256 lanes on that specific model. On a 280X for example, there a 384 lanes, so the former has more lanes.

 

There'es your definition of memory bus.

 

Now you're telling me that 4GB of information can go through that memory bus? Hell no. That memory bus was designed for 2GB. The only reason they put 4GB is for marketing. The GPU manufacturers cannot change the chip content therefore they cannot change the bus size.

 

nVidia does not seem to understand how a memory bus works. Look at the GTX Titan! It has a 384 bit bus yet it has an amazing 6GB of GDDR5 RAM!

 

Bring us 512 bit please

That's a good example there. You are suggesting however that while 4 lanes can hold 40 cars, 2 lanes would be able to hold only 20 cars. That is not true. It may take more time to let through the same amount of cars but they are there, waiting and ready to be let through.

 

Yes, you won't be able to use all of the memory AT ONCE, but your gpu can use it to keep processed data. It's like suggesting that a 1TB HDD is worthless because you can't access all of it at once.

 

I'm not saying that having the 4GB version is more or even equally useful to having the 780 instead. But it can be used.

 

As to the OP - not a single consumer grade card on the market is able to keep constant 60+ fps in 1080p on the most advanced, best looking engines. Sure, you will get decent frames, but that's it. Stop the fairytale of the 'nothing-more-to-achieve-in-1080p'

[LOST TALE]

Good luck maxing out Crysis 3 on even 1080P with a single 770. Coming from a GTX 770 owner. 

wow shit bro, cant beat my Twinfrozr . your 770 must be the worse.

[GamerDude]

The key here is not in the US or Canada. In Canada, it's $410 for a 4GB 770 and it's $440 for a 280X. In the USA, it's $370 for a 4GB 770 and $400 for an R9 280X. I live in the US, so I am judging by my prices and those of the Canadians.

Let's not forget that some of us here in LTT are from countries other than the US. In my neck of the woods, the GTX770 is always more expensive than the R9 280X, for example, a regular MSI GTX770 2GB OC Ed cost $529 (local currency) whereas an MSI R9 280X 3GB costs $468, that's a substantial difference in price. Some cheaper GTX770 (like Palit) are priced at around some R9 280X price bracket but usually, you can get an R9 280X for less than a GTX770. I'm in Asia where for whatever reasons, nVidia cards carry a price premium over AMD's. The pair of Sapphire R9 290X I had gotten cost about the same as what I'd have paid for a pair of GTX780 (non-Ti).

[TheSLSAMG]

Let's not forget that some of us here in LTT are from countries other than the US. In my neck of the woods, the GTX770 is always more expensive than the R9 280X, for example, a regular MSI GTX770 2GB OC Ed cost $529 (local currency) whereas an MSI R9 280X 3GB costs $468, that's a substantial difference in price. Some cheaper GTX770 (like Palit) are priced at around some R9 280X price bracket but usually, you can get an R9 280X for less than a GTX770. I'm in Asia where for whatever reasons, nVidia cards carry a price premium over AMD's. The pair of Sapphire R9 290X I had gotten cost about the same as what I'd have paid for a pair of GTX780 (non-Ti).

Of course, I don't forget about such. Damn, those prices are butchered to hell. Why did you buy R9 290Xs? 290s are nearly as good and probably have a substantial price difference.

[GamerDude]

wow shit bro, cant beat my Twinfrozr . your 770 must be the worse.

You misunderstood Assassin, yes, you can 'max' out Crysis 3 at 1080P, by max I mean everything to the hilt, but you won't get smooth framerate since the 2GB VRAM size on the GTX770 isn't sufficient. so there may be some swapping with system RAM. You may notice a slowing down or stuttering and such, and in the very worst case scenario, the system may crash.

[GamerDude]

Of course, I don't forget about such. Damn, those prices are butchered to hell. Why did you buy R9 290Xs? 290s are nearly as good and probably have a substantial price difference.

I usually buy flagship cards, especially AMD's.....for my nVidia setup, I'd compromised a little going for a pair of GTX670's in SLi. Besides, the R9 290's were sold out since most buyers were going for them as they represent best bang for buck on AMD side......I'd searched, but found only one R9 290, so I'd no choice but to get the R9 290X instead. Tried Crysis 3 at near max setting, 4xMSAA instead of 8xMSAA, and it ran smooth at 57x12. Thinking of WC and perhaps a 3rd card.....may be.