Intel core 2 Quad or Quad-core Xeon?

[boredatwork]

I want to build a very cheap gaming system , because money is not so great. I found an old Computer with a Asus p5ql se , an intel core 2 duo (doesn't specify which one) and 2gb of ddr2 ram , without a psu or a HDD , which I happen to have ( a VS450 white and an 120gb SSD) for 20€ , and a 750 1g for 40€ which is negotiable (I live in Greece , so prince are inflated a ton). If I exchange out the cpu for a Q6600 or a xeon , and get 8gb ddr2 ram off of eBay , will I have enough just to play some esport older games , like csgo? Thanks to everyone who helps!

[Fasauceome]

I would say run it with the core 2 duo to see if performance is good enough, and you can put the money you would have spent on the core 2 quad towards something much better down the line

[191x7]

It should work for the basic needs you have, but it's outdatedly outdated even for the outdated standards.

[boredatwork]

50 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

I would say run it with the core 2 duo to see if performance is good enough, and you can put the money you would have spent on the core 2 quad towards something much better down the line

Hey you answered to my post the other day too But will a dual core from 2010 be enough?

 

48 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

It should work for the basic needs you have, but it's outdatedly outdated even for the outdated standards.

From a scale 1 to Internet Explorer , how outdated is it ? Also I am not looking for a new machine in any way , just something cheap to have at least.

[Turtle Rig]

Just now, boredatwork said:

Hey you answered to my post the other day too But will a dual core from 2010 be enough?

Why not a Sandy Bridge ?

[kelvinhall05]

Just now, boredatwork said:

Hey you answered to my post the other day too But will a dual core from 2010 be enough?

C2Ds are basically obsolete for everything except office work. Get a C2Q and OC the crap out of it, then, if you can, throw in something like a used 750TI or a new GT 1030.

[Emanbaird]

The q6600 was and kind of still is a great budget CPU but the single core performance is heavily lacking, have you checked LGA 1366 prices in your area? you can get a great x58 CPU for super cheap in the States

[Turtle Rig]

He need 16GB of ram and SSD to use a Core 2 CPU now a days.

[kelvinhall05]

1 minute ago, Emanbaird said:

The q6600 was and kind of still is a great budget CPU but the single core performance is heavily lacking, have you checked LGA 1366 prices in your area? you can get a great x58 CPU for super cheap in the States

But motherboards are expensive unless you strike a deal, which I doubt will happen in Greece.

[191x7]

1 minute ago, boredatwork said:

From a scale 1 to Internet Explorer , how outdated is it ?

I'd say Netscape Navigator outdated. XD

 

Trust me, I have a Phenom II x4 with a Radeon HD 7770 1GB, I know how such stuff works for games.

[boredatwork]

Just now, Emanbaird said:

The q6600 was and kind of still is a great budget CPU but the single core performance is heavily lacking, have you checked LGA 1366 prices in your area? you can get a great x58 CPU for super cheap in the States

Yeah , in greece we either have new stuff like Ryzens wich are overpriced , or really old stuff like 775 which is also overpriced . Talking about used market always.

[Fasauceome]

47 minutes ago, boredatwork said:

Hey you answered to my post the other day too But will a dual core from 2010 be enough?

I think if you run windows 7 or Linux to ease up on background tasks then I think Csgo would do, and other titles from that year approximately

 

44 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

He need 16GB of ram and SSD to use a Core 2 CPU now a days.

Moar ram doesn't really make a CPU better

[Turtle Rig]

Just now, fasauceome said:

Moar ram doesn't really make a CPU better

True, but honestly if your on WIndows 10 you need 16GB RAM minimum so it can cache some ram in there as well and make things less laggy.  The SSD will help plenty don't you think fasauceome ?

[boredatwork]

4 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Why not a Sandy Bridge ?

They are too expensive for my budget.

[aclegg2011]

14 minutes ago, boredatwork said:

I want to build a very cheap gaming system , because money is not so great. I found an old Computer with a Asus p5ql se , an intel core 2 duo (doesn't specify which one) and 2gb of ddr2 ram , without a psu or a HDD , which I happen to have ( a VS450 white and an 120gb SSD) for 20€ , and a 750 1g for 40€ which is negotiable (I live in Greece , so prince are inflated a ton). If I exchange out the cpu for a Q6600 or a xeon , and get 8gb ddr2 ram off of eBay , will I have enough just to play some esport older games , like csgo? Thanks to everyone who helps!

depending on which games you want to play, you may want atleast a quad core. Maybe check out the miniumn requirements online to see what you need to run the games you want to play?

[boredatwork]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

True, but honestly if your on WIndows 10 you need 16GB RAM minimum so it can cache some ram in there as well and make things less laggy.  The SSD will help plenty don't you think fasauceome ?

I already have an SSD , I mentioned it in my first post

[Emanbaird]

2 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

But motherboards are expensive unless you strike a deal, which I doubt will happen in Greece.

Yeah, OP, if i were you i'd look for an older business class machine between 2011-2013 and then just slap low end GPU in there. 

The q6600 is fine for older games and normal use, but even windows uses pretty much my entire CPU nowadays

[boredatwork]

42 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

True, but honestly if your on WIndows 10 you need 16GB RAM minimum so it can cache some ram in there as well and make things less laggy.  The SSD will help plenty don't you think fasauceome ?

So you think if I am to run W10 , I should get 16gb of ram ?

 

41 minutes ago, Emanbaird said:

Yeah, OP, if i were you i'd look for an older business class machine between 2011-2013 and then just slap low end GPU in there. 

The q6600 is fine for older games and normal use, but even windows uses pretty much my entire CPU nowadays

Which cpu do you have ?

[Turtle Rig]

Like the gurus said above, a 750Ti is perfect for a core 2 quad OCed to hell and back.  We have a Core 2 Quad 2.4Ghz with hard disk drive and 8GB RAM.  It is soo freakin slow its not even funny.  It kills me to use that thing.  I installed Linux on it and my nephew uses the PC, he plays flash games so its fine.  Running games you must take down resolution to 720p or something.

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

honestly if your on WIndows 10 you need 16GB RAM minimum so it can cache some ram in there

That wouldn't speed up tasks, actually my 4GB laptop doesn't run out of ram using Windows 10 so a pretty modest 8GB of DDR2 would do

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, campy said:

why on earth would you use windows 10 with a core2duo?

Cause its basically the same speed as windows 7. WIndows hasn't really gotten slower over time, and windows 10 is often faster than 7.

[boredatwork]

1 minute ago, campy said:

why on earth would you use windows 10 with a core2duo?

that was a good idea maybe a year or so ago before they went full bloat because it was better on older hardware compared to 7 or 8.1, but not now

with a core2duo you'd have to go with windows 7 these days

^that plays GTA V

normal settings, 1280x1024, 40-50fps online and 30fps singleplayer

 

dont underestimate what old hardware is capable of, just because its old doesnt mean its entirely obsolete, its just not ideal anymore to be running anything lga 775

I know that 775 is not ideal , but thats what the money says 

[Turtle Rig]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

That wouldn't speed up tasks, actually my 4GB laptop doesn't run out of ram using Windows 10 so a pretty modest 8GB of DDR2 would do

Your right...….  Yes 8GB will be nice, 4GB wont handle the OS and apps on top of it.  But ya every guru here will attest to the fact that you should put a SSD in there and it will bring the Core 2 to life.  8GB RAM minimum as well.

[aisle9]

10 minutes ago, boredatwork said:

Hey you answered to my post the other day too But will a dual core from 2010 be enough?

For CS:GO, probably not. Give it a go, but plan on jumping to a Q6600 or a Xeon (if your board supports them).

9 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Why not a Sandy Bridge ?

Because that's a completely different motherboard and different RAM, and he's questioning if a Q6600 is worth it.

7 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

He need 16GB of ram and SSD to use a Core 2 CPU now a days.

No you don't.

4 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

True, but honestly if your on WIndows 10 you need 16GB RAM minimum so it can cache some ram in there as well and make things less laggy.

No you don't.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, campy said:

nah, we're talking literally multiple gigabytes of ram usage in difference

thats important when the hardware in question is a core2duo and a finite amount of ram, 7 will be significantly better for this

huh? Windows 10 idles at like 1 gb of ram, anything past that is the stuff you install, and thats the same on windows 7. And windows 10 has things like memory compression that helps with systems that don't have much ram.