Is 450W PSU enough for this system?

[Od1sseas]

https://www.thermaltake.com/Power_Supply/TR2_Series_/TR2_S/C_00002823/TR2_S_450W_/design.htm

 

Specs:

Ryzen 3 1200 (Stock)

Gigabyte A320M-S2H

Crucial Ballistix Tactical 2X4GB 2666Mhz

Sapphire Radeon RX 570 Nitro+ 4GB (6+2 and 6 Power)

1TB HDD

 

[Spotty]

450W is more than enough for that system, but don't buy the Thermaltake TR2.

[Od1sseas]

Just now, Spotty said:

but don't buy the Thermaltake TR2.

Why? It's 80+ Certified

[Amazonsucks]

4 minutes ago, Od1sseas said:

Why? It's 80+ Certified

80+ is an absolutely meaningless certification.

 

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrelevant_to_you_when_buying_psu/

 

You need to look at who actually makes the PSU to know if its good or bad.

 

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/PSUReviewDatabase.html

 

That shows who makes PSUs and has links to reviews. Its the most important single component in terms of the reliability of a PC(along with the UPS oe surge protector that protects it) so it pays to get a good one.

[NunoLava1998]

15 minutes ago, Od1sseas said:

Why? It's 80+ Certified

80+ doesn't talk about quality, only power efficiency.

I.e., a PSU with 100% efficiency drawing 500W would draw 500W, while one with 50% would draw 1000W, one with 25% would draw 2000W, etc.

While it is true that if a PSU is 80+ certified, it isn't complete shit, the TR2 is practically one of the only exceptions.

Ripple can be as high as 61mV and efficiency as low as 82.6% (although the PSU does meet 80+), plus it's not a very recent power supply.

Can't see why it's listed as Tier 7 on @STRMfrmXMN and Tier G on @LienusLateTips's PSU list however, it's not extraordinarily bad as they seem to suggest

[Od1sseas]

What about this one?

 

https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/1279

[Amazonsucks]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

While it is true that if a PSU is 80+ certified, it isn't complete shit

They can still be complete shit

[Od1sseas]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

80+ doesn't talk about quality, only power efficiency.

I.e., a PSU with 100% efficiency drawing 500W would draw 500W, while one with 50% would draw 1000W, one with 25% would draw 2000W, etc.

While it is true that if a PSU is 80+ certified, it isn't complete shit, the TR2 is practically one of the only exceptions.

Ripple can be as high as 61mV and efficiency as low as 82.6% (although the PSU does meet 80+), plus it's not a very recent power supply.

Is this ok?

be quiet! System Power 9 600W

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, Od1sseas said:

Is this ok?

be quiet! System Power 9 600W

Looks okay, but I'd probably suggest a CX550M, CX450M, CX450 or CX550.

CXMs have semi-modularity but have sleeve-bearing fans, CXs have no modularity but rifle-bearing fans which last much longer. But they're also dirt cheap in most cases

[Od1sseas]

Just now, NunoLava1998 said:

Looks okay, but I'd probably suggest a CX550M, CX450M, CX450 or CX550.

CXMs have semi-modularity but have sleeve-bearing fans, CXs have no modularity but rifle-bearing fans which last much longer. But they're also dirt cheap in most cases

Those are expensive. This is a budget build for ~450€

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, Od1sseas said:

Those are expensive. This is a budget build for ~450€

Save up more

[Od1sseas]

Just now, NunoLava1998 said:

Save up more

This build is not for me, it's for a friend. And ,yes, he already saved a little more. He wanted a PC for ~350-380 but that was impossible. Now he saved for some months and he has 450$. I don't think he will wait more just for a fucking PSU. I just want  a PSU to be enough to handle the system not modular and 80+ Gold shit

[Spotty]

11 minutes ago, Od1sseas said:

What about this one?

 

https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/1279

You don't need a 600W PSU for a system that will only use 200W. But the System Power 9 is a better unit than the Thermaltake TR2.

What are some Greek PC part stores you can buy from and I'll have a look at what's available. Budget for the PSU?

[Od1sseas]

4 minutes ago, Spotty said:

You don't need a 600W PSU for a system that will only use 200W. But the System Power 9 is a better unit than the Thermaltake TR2.

What are some Greek PC part stores you can buy from and I'll have a look at what's available. Budget for the PSU?

Here. In Stock and Cheaper->Expensive filters are applied

https://www.bestprice.gr/cat/2608/trofodotika-ypologiston.html?o=2&instock=1

 

~50 Euros

Edited January 27, 2019 by Od1sseas

[NunoLava1998]

6 minutes ago, Od1sseas said:

This build is not for me, it's for a friend. And ,yes, he already saved a little more. He wanted a PC for ~350-380 but that was impossible. Now he saved for some months and he has 450$. I don't think he will wait more just for a fucking PSU. I just want  a PSU to be enough to handle the system not modular and 80+ Gold shit

CX450 is 19.99$ and 80+ Bronze.

Did you even look at the price? It's not as dirt cheap in other places, but it's still relatively around the price of the TR2 and System Power 9

EDIT: https://www.bestprice.gr/item/2155030896/corsair-cx-series-450.html?qid=3ibUf5HL4RD_1fa08&seq=2 45,31€ + 3,90€ postage

[Od1sseas]

Just now, NunoLava1998 said:

CX450 is 19.99$ and 80+ Bronze.

Did you even look at the price? It's not as dirt cheap in other places, but it's still relatively around the price of the TR2 and System Power 9

It's 55 Euros in Greece xd

[NunoLava1998]

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Just now, Od1sseas said:

It's 55 Euros in Greece xd

In the website you linked it's 45

[Od1sseas]

Just now, NunoLava1998 said:

a

In the website you linked it's 45

But it's not in stock

 

55 Euros is the cheapest in stock

[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, Od1sseas said:

But it's not in stock

 

55 Euros is the cheapest in stock

Still, the TR2 is pretty close in price.

10€ shouldn't be much of a difference lol

[Spotty]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

CX450 is 19.99$ and 80+ Bronze.

Did you even look at the price? It's not as dirt cheap in other places, but it's still relatively around the price of the TR2 and System Power 9

Not everyone lives in America...
 

3 minutes ago, Od1sseas said:

Here. In Stock and Cheaper->Expensive filters are applied

https://www.bestprice.gr/cat/2608/trofodotika-ypologiston.html?o=2&instock=1

 

~50 Euros

Be Quiet Pure Power 10 400W is 50 Euro. Comes in non-modular and semi-modular varieties.

 

https://www.bestprice.gr/item/2154995665/be-quiet-pure-power-10-400w.html?filter=in-stock:1

https://www.bestprice.gr/item/2154995659/be-quiet-pure-power-10-400w-cm.html?filter=in-stock:1

[Od1sseas]

Just now, Spotty said:

Not everyone lives in America...
 

Be Quiet Pure Power 10 400W is 50 Euro. Comes in non-modular and semi-modular varieties.

 

https://www.bestprice.gr/item/2154995665/be-quiet-pure-power-10-400w.html?filter=in-stock:1

https://www.bestprice.gr/item/2154995659/be-quiet-pure-power-10-400w-cm.html?filter=in-stock:1

400W is enough for this power hungry rx 570 nitro+? wow

What if i change the CPU to a R3 1300X. It would be still enough?

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, Spotty said:

Not everyone lives in America...

I do know (I live in Portugal), but my point was that it was relatively cheap. Here it's about 52€ while the TR2 is ~65€

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, Od1sseas said:

400W is enough for this power hungry rx 570 nitro+? wow

What if i change the CPU to a R3 1300X. It would be still enough?

Yes.

[Spotty]

12 minutes ago, Od1sseas said:

400W is enough for this power hungry rx 570 nitro+? wow

What if i change the CPU to a R3 1300X. It would be still enough?

Checking the Sapphire website it states 195W power consumption, so it's a fair bit higher than most RX 570s, but it will still be fine. Even with a 1300X.

[Od1sseas]

8 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Checking the Sapphire website it states 195W power consumption, so it's a fair bit higher than most RX 570s, but it will still be fine. Even with a 1300X.

I found this one which is a little bit cheaper from be quiet. Is this good? Sorry, last question i promise

https://www.foxstore.gr/index.php?route=product/product&path=1_942_968_471&product_id=3734