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Is Your Gaming Rig Being Bottlenecked??

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On 8/6/2018 at 8:58 AM, VegetableStu said:
On 8/5/2018 at 9:51 PM, SilverX959 said:

i wonder how bad of a Bottlenecked my system is


CPU: Intel Core i7 920 2.67GHz, Turbo 2.93GHz 8MBL3
RAM: 14GB DDR3 1066MHz Triple Channel
Motherboard: OEM dell x58 Chipset from a Studio XPS 435t
GPU: PCI-E PNY GeForce GTX 1060 3GB GDDR5 XLR8 OC
Monitor: DELL 21" 1080

 

i also wonder how much of an improvement i would get if i put my 1060 in my FX-8120 125w system that can turbo to 4GHz on a GA-990FXA-UD3(rev. 1.1) with 8GB of 1600Mhz DDR3 ram

currently that system has a GTX 560 SC in it

what program or game are you wanting to run this on?

well at that moment i mostly just play games like Skyrim SE, Fallout 4, and recently i started playing Guild Wars 2 also been messing with Elite Dangerous

i mostly been getting stuttering in most of my game and was wondering if i switch my gpu over to the other system would i get a bump in performance or at lest have less stuttering.

non of my hard drives are being hammered so i know that's not the problem.

also sorry for the late replay my os drive bit the dust it was only 3 years old kept getting dr0 and dr1 errors when it was writing to the free space on the drive lucky the os part wasn't damaged i was able to clone it to a temp drive i had in my spare parts bin till i'm able to get a new one might get a SSD

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16 minutes ago, SilverX959 said:

also sorry for the late replay my os drive bit the dust it was only 3 years old.

go retest again, a dying OS disk directly contributes to total system stuttering.

 

other than that, if your 8120 is set to clock faster than your 920, that system with the 1060 might run better. a 920 overclocked to 4.0 would do slightly better, but at this point it's not worth risking death to an old CPU if you want to use both a little longer.

 

your next upgrade should be a system with a more modern CPU (and unfortunately that means buying RAM because DDR4) EDIT: hang on, let me go reread something

 

EDITx2: okay if you want more frames, large-world or many-object games would do better with a CPU upgrade first. a GPU upgrade would improve framerates on shader detail in general either way.

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ok i know my rig is bottlenecked 

cpu i7 2600k

gpu gtx 1080 ti

memory 16gb

hdd 240gb ssd 

monitor 4k

 

 but the my system runs well anuff for the games i play 

and the http://thebottlenecker.com/ says that even upgrading to the best chip my MB (i7 3770k) will take is only 2% better so there is no real point in me going for that plus there still quite expensive in the UK. so my question is what should i do without spending lots of cash ?

 

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Overclock the 2600k is your best bet.  If you're using stock a new well rounded cooler like the hyper 212 would do well for cheap


Intel 4670K /w TT water 2.0 performer, GTX 1070FE, Gigabyte Z87X-DH3, Corsair HX750, 16GB Mushkin 1333mhz, Fractal R4 Windowed, Varmilo mint TKL, Logitech m310, HP Pavilion 23bw, Logitech 2.1 Speakers

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I put my GTX1070 in my overclocked Phenom2 x4 955 at 3.7Ghz

Cos LoLs.

Many games tested.

 

The only way to ensure 90%+ GPU usage was to play at 1800-2160p, and even then I was targeting always above 30fps only...

:) Playlist ^

But many lighter side games ran relatively well.

But you have to be realistic.. 30-50fps targets for such a CPU, 7870/270x/750Ti-670 likely the topend you want to use.

 


Maximums - Asus Z97-K /w i5 4690 Bclk @106.9Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz, 8GB of 2600Mhz DDR3,.. Gigabyte GTX970 G1-Gaming @ 1550Mhz

 

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Hello,

 

so i have been thinking about upgrading my computer in a long time. I bought this system when I finished highschool for about 1.000 EUR and myself and the system aged a bit.

http://www.userbenchmark.com/PCBuilder/Custom/S2130-M1872.7661.325.420.44130vsS2130-M1872.153864.325.420.44130?tab=GPU

On this website i have put in my current computer on the left side and added the new card that i might want to get on the right (gtx 1060 6gb).

 

My couple of Questions are:

  1. Will this be overkill for the rest of my pc?
  2. Is it wise now to wait for the release of the next gen Nvidia xx60 to buy a card?
  3. Is it even logical to upgrade my CPU as well to a "newest" CPU that can use my motherboard (i think a i5-4460) or would i need to get a new motherboard as well for a real jump?

 

The main gameing uses for my pc are: Pubg (min settings min resolution or my system overheats), LoL (medium settings), between 3-7 Clients of EVE Online at the same time on potatomode (min everything besides resolution).

I have two monitors connected to my R9 280x from Acer K222HQL line (one newest gen one and older version)

 

Thanks for your help and excuse my poor choice of words as this is my third language.

 

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On 8/6/2018 at 12:29 AM, GabenJr said:

Everyone hates bottlenecks. It’s a common question on our forums to ask whether a part will be a bottleneck… But what does a bottleneck even look like, and how can you avoid one?

 

 

Buy a Core i7 8700K:
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On Newegg: http://geni.us/RLfD

 

Buy a Ryzen 3 2200G:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/jaZX9RZ
On Newegg: http://geni.us/1vxxfGB

 

Buy a GeForce GT 1030:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/RUD3m
On Newegg: http://geni.us/mSAqGt

 

Buy a GeForce GTX 1060 6GB:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/9iVpPWq
On Newegg: http://geni.us/R10t

I'm building my first gaming pc and i was thinking of putting 'Intel i7 8700k " with  '1060' , is  this right to put  them together or should i step down my core to "i5"....???

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On 8/5/2018 at 2:59 PM, GabenJr said:

Everyone hates bottlenecks. It’s a common question on our forums to ask whether a part will be a bottleneck… But what does a bottleneck even look like, and how can you avoid one?

 

 

Buy a Core i7 8700K:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/JlcIN
On Newegg: http://geni.us/RLfD

 

Buy a Ryzen 3 2200G:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/jaZX9RZ
On Newegg: http://geni.us/1vxxfGB

 

Buy a GeForce GT 1030:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/RUD3m
On Newegg: http://geni.us/mSAqGt

 

Buy a GeForce GTX 1060 6GB:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/9iVpPWq
On Newegg: http://geni.us/R10t

i7 4770k & gtx1080 bottleneck?

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1 hour ago, Juliovaquer said:

i7 4770k & gtx1080 bottleneck?

Depends on intended usage.

 

1440p, hardly to none, 4K less so..

1080p, in games like the new Assassins creed (High CPU usage driving down GPU usage) or trying for -HighFPS (Medium Preset Gaming) then still likely.

With 4th Gen (which I have i7 4790k 4.5Ghz) and a GTX1070 (OC'd pretty well) I was in the same boat... seeing A.Creed Origins have 80-90% CPU load at times...

I use 2560x1080 now, with my old 1080p panel as a secondary, but still have used both for gaming.

 

Ensuring 97-100% GPU Usage, at 1080p, you'd need a little more IPC (while it still managing quite fine dropping a few more percent of usage, compared to new CPU's/slightly faster IPC) The intended resolution of the GTX1080 isn't 1080p, so if you are going to use it for 1080p gaming, expect current titles but not all, to suffer usage issues.

Until newer games utilize more GPU (say... Cyberpunk2077) at 1080p by default.

 

A game by game basis, but overall,... I can maximize 99-100% of my 1070 easily at a little over 1080p but under 1440p.

The GTX1080 is a 1440p GPU, severely taxing games at 1080p CAN Max it, but many may suffer GPU usage issues (still getting Great performance regardless)


Maximums - Asus Z97-K /w i5 4690 Bclk @106.9Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz, 8GB of 2600Mhz DDR3,.. Gigabyte GTX970 G1-Gaming @ 1550Mhz

 

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Hey,

this is my PC right now and i would like to upgrade.

 

    CPU : AMD FX-8320E

    GPU : 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960

    MB : ASUSTeK Computer INC. M5A78L-M LX3

    RAM : 8,00GB Dual-Channel DDR3

 

I have 500$+ in my pocket and was thinking about Ryzen 7 2700x (ofc with new MB and RAM) and buy GPU later...

Do you think is this a good decision ? or the bottleneck will be so bad with this GPU ?

Please share your opinion with me and what you should do.

BTW I would like to play games on this PC and stream sometimes.

 

Thanks.

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Hi,

I'm looking at upgrading my video card to an Asus RX Vega 64 OC and I want to know if I have to worry about bottlenecks for now.

I will be using this setup mainly for gaming.

My system specs are:

 

CPU: AMD FX-8320 (not overclocked but watercooled)

Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0

Ram: G.Skill Sniper 16gb 2400mhz

SSD: Samsung Evo 850 256gb

HDD: WD Blue 2TB

Case: Antec Eleven Hundred V2

OS: Windows 10 pro

Monitor: iiyama 27" 1080p 75hz (I don't know if this matters)

 

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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Linus this is in reply to your most recent video, about the new iPhones:

 

Your so dumb linus. Stop looking at factors as small as "Apples September Keynote" for your drop in views. If your dropping views accross all of your channel during September, then maybe you should look at over 50% of your viewer demographic, students. And of courses United States students, I don't know about in Canada, but in the United States every kid who lives here will start school in the beginning of September and by the time there about a week in, homework hits hard and so does everything else. All this other stuff means no time for your videos or YouTube at all. Also you should really think harder about who's watching your videos and who's watching Apple's updates and shiz. Linus almost all of your videos are about non-apple things, so any returning viewers would care less about you not showing iPhone coverage, because they aren't watching you for apple shiz in the first place. Also since most of your video traffic is probably coming from the recommended area after a video you are loosing views there too. If all your videos are about AMD and Intel, then YouTube's AI isn't going to suggest your videos after a Apple one, so if people are in fact not watching your videos during this time. Then there's nothing you can do, because YouTube's AI has already marketed your content towards people other than Apple fans. What you need to do instead Linus, is focus on your biggest loss, school. Find a way to combat that by making videos that apply to our lives or interest us like cool tech under $5, and back to school tech that doesn't suck or maybe a series labeled "real deals" where you look at deals that are actually good on tech, Linus stop overanaylizing your stats and look at the big picture.

 

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On 8/7/2018 at 11:39 PM, killerspec said:

Spec: 

Lenovo IdeaPad Z580

  • CPU Intel Core i5 (3rd Gen) 3210M / 2.5 GHz
  • Max Turbo Speed 3.1 GHz
  • Number of Cores Dual-Core
  • Cache 3 MB
  • Chipset Type Mobile Intel HM76 Express
  • Features Hyper-Threading Technology, Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0, integrated memory controller
  • Memory Speed 1600 MHz
  • Memory Specification Compliance PC3-12800
  • Configuration Features 2 x 4 GB
  • Technology DDR3 SDRAM
  • Installed Size 8 GB
  • Rated Memory Speed 1600 MHz
OK I know my system is a lot older than most of builds you all see here but I am a student and I bought the laptop from an ex-class mate, €50 which I think was well worth it. I don't have cash to upgrade right now as I am doing my masters in software design and tbh the system as it stands does the work I need it for and when it comes to more intensive workload I have access to the game development pc's in college.
 
Right now to my question I am an avid World of Tanks player (I suck but love the game) I am wondering if there is any second hand options to help me get more fps and maybe a little better quality in my game experience that WON'T set me back more then €75 as that is what I have hidden away from my wife.
 
Kind regards 
 
Killerspec

take a look at page 90-92 in this manual

https://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/ideapad_z380_z480_z485_z580_z585_hmm_1st_edition_feb_2012_english.pdf

 

it contains a list of compatible CPUs in your laptop. you can probably order on of these CPUs of ebay and upgrade, though i wouldnt pick up more than a dualcore. 

 

this might improve performance slightly, but i wouldnt really recommend doing something like this unless you really want to

 

your laptop uses the socket G2 which allows certain CPUs to be used. i know this because ive been looking at a CPU upgrade in my laptop for a while.

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Hi linus techtips...i would like to ask if my pc is bottlenecking, here is the specs

i7 4790 non k

Msi Gtx 1080ti 

2 x 8GB ddr3 ram

Asus b85 pro gamer 

Corsair 650watts gold

Viewsonic 144hz 1080p

 

Do i experience bottlenecking here when i play PUBG? Coz sometime my fps drops at 30 for a couple of sec and an average of 90-110... tnx in advance

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1 minute ago, Sincerely yours said:

Hi linus techtips...i would like to ask if my pc is bottlenecking, here is the specs

i7 4790 non k

Msi Gtx 1080ti 

2 x 8GB ddr3 ram

Asus b85 pro gamer 

Corsair 650watts gold

Viewsonic 144hz 1080p

 

Do i experience bottlenecking here when i play PUBG? Coz sometime my fps drops at 30 for a couple of sec and an average of 90-110... tnx in advance

 

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You’re doing a lot better than me... I know that PubG dips significantly at times for a multitude of reasons. 

My system:

A10-7850k OC’d to 4.2

Cooler Master GeminII S524 Ver.2

Msi A88XM Gaming mobo

2 x 8 HyperX Fury DDR3 1600mhz ram

Corsair RM 550x psu

Msi RX 580 Armor mk2 8gb overclock edition

Samsung 850 evo 500gb SSD

Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 750gb HD

 

My cpu is no doubt my bottleneck. It’s a fairly reliable setup but I think it’s time for some upgrades. 

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So here my PC:

CPU : I3-4160

RAM: 2x4GB DDR3 1600

VGA: GTX 650Ti

Monitor: asus FHD 60hz

PSU: ARROW AHA 650W

 

I just play some LoL and World of tank with low setting for 3 years without any issue. Now i know that my GPU too weak for my CPU by 70-80% (http://thebottlenecker.com/)

 

And I want to upgrade my VGA to AMD RX 580 8GB (2nd) first, so any advice for my monitor and setting. Should i buy a QHD monitor to push my VGA workload or just use my current monitor and save money to upgraded CPU soon.

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1 hour ago, mrkai3326 said:

weak for my CPU by 70-80% (http://thebottlenecker.com/)

tip: never use websites to calculate bottlenecks, because there will allways be one, it depends on resolution, games and more.

 

1 hour ago, mrkai3326 said:

Should i buy a QHD monitor to push my VGA workload or just use my current monitor and save money to upgraded CPU soon

a 1080p IPS display is enough, you dont need to spend extra on a 1440p one. 

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43 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

tip: never use websites to calculate bottlenecks, because there will allways be one, it depends on resolution, games and more. 

 

a 1080p IPS display is enough, you dont need to spend extra on a 1440p one. 

tks, so i just upgrade GPU for now and upgrade CPU later right ?

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6 minutes ago, mrkai3326 said:

tks, so i just upgrade GPU for now and upgrade CPU later right ?

a new GPU would be the next item to upgrade, yes.

 

unless you are missing an SSD to have your OS on. in which case get an SSD

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What's the perfect build for 1080p gaming to avoid bottlenecking? Please help, I'm planning to build the best value build for 1080p gaming :)

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