HP Pavilion and Pavilon X360 (2018)

[NumLock21]

HP has announced an updated to their Pavilion and Pavilion X360 line of laptops. Under the hood, it now comes with either AMD Ryzen (for Pavilion) or Intel 8th gen processors. 8GB of DDR4, a 1TB 5400 rpm HDD, optional IR webcam support for Windows Hello, IPS display panel, and discrete graphics from both AMD and Nvidia.  On touch enabled models it supports Windows ink and 10 point touch. Self upgrade may be possible for the memory, for storage it can be configured with a SSD+HDD or Intel Optane. On the graphic side AMD Ryzen will come with onboard VEGA while Intel gets their typical UHD graphics. For discrete gpus it can be configured with a AMD Radeon 530 or Nvidia MX130. No words on how much vram it will get, but all they say is, it comes with the much faster GDDR5.

 

Design of these new laptops it taken from their Envy line up, where now it gives them a more premium look. The new design now features a unibody metal keyboard deck, thinner screen bezels, etched cut pattern design for the speakers, and a thinner profile compare to their previous Pavilion models. Both of them comes in 14 or 15 inch, with the Pavilion one having the ability to lift itself at an angle with due to the screen lid to help improve air flow. The Pavilion X360 now offers the same functionality as the Envy, with its 360 degree hinge, it can be converted from laptop, tablet, stand, and tent mode. 

Connectivity, it comes with USB 3.0 Type A, Type C at Gen 1, HDMI, gigabit lan on the Pavilion, Wireless with Bluetooth, a SD card reader, optional finger print scanner, and combo mic/headset jack. Price starts out at $499 for the entry model and they will available for order something in the months between May and June.

 

HP Pavilion

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HP Pavilion X360

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https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Pavilion-and-Pavilion-x360-notebooks-get-the-thin-bezel-treatment.296884.0.html

[potoooooooo]

To bad HP quality control is so awful or these might actually be decent.

 

I've never had more issues with a laptop than with my 3 HP laptops

[RotoCoreOne]

I read on he us that they also updated their pavillion laptops that'll have the 8th gen u processors up to the six core and sports rx 560x or Nvidia GTX 1060 and option for a 144hz screen.

https://m.hexus.net/tech/news/systems/117104-hp-intel-8th-gen-pavilion-gaming-laptops-desktops-launched/

[Ryujin2003]

These look... Like the Spectre from a couple generations ago. The Envy has always been the poor man's or woman's version of Spectre. I really wonder how the cooking cooling is going to work...

[dalekphalm]

5 hours ago, potoooooooo said:

To bad HP quality control is so awful or these might actually be decent.

 

I've never had more issues with a laptop than with my 3 HP laptops

I have an HP Spectre x360 13” and the build quality is superb. 

 

For HP it really comes down to which series, and what price point. 

 

Their cheap sub $600 laptops are probably gonna suck. Just like most other sub $600 laptops. But the higher end series tend to have good quality. 

 

It also depends on which generation, as some are worse than others. 

[suicidalfranco]

ugh hp... gross 

[hobobobo]

single channel user non-accessible ram, cool stuff

[CTR640]

The HP X360 looks damn nice and want one but those arrow keys are cancer. WTF HP, get off these fucked up arrow keys and use the damn normal keys!

[dalekphalm]

8 minutes ago, CTR640 said:

The HP X360 looks damn nice and want one but those arrow keys are cancer. WTF HP, get off these fucked up arrow keys and use the damn normal keys!

My Spectre x360 has the same arrow keys - possibly the same whole keyboard. It's one of the only things I dislike about it - but I'm not using the arrow keys much on mine so I can live with that kind of annoyance.

 

However, if I were using this as a desktop replacement and doing a lot of excel or something, I might shoot myself

[NumLock21]

15 hours ago, RotoCoreOne said:

I read on he us that they also updated their pavillion laptops that'll have the 8th gen u processors up to the six core and sports rx 560x or Nvidia GTX 1060 and option for a 144hz screen.

https://m.hexus.net/tech/news/systems/117104-hp-intel-8th-gen-pavilion-gaming-laptops-desktops-launched/

HP calls them Pavilion Power. They do have great specs and all that, it would look a lot nicer if they would updated it with their new logo. I guess the new logo is only for their more expensive ones like Spectre, X2, Envy, and EliteBook.

 

15 hours ago, Ryujin2003 said:

These look... Like the Spectre from a couple generations ago. The Envy has always been the poor man's or woman's version of Spectre. I really wonder how the cooking cooling is going to work...

A fully spec out Envy cost more than a Spectre, but it's still missing Thunderbolt 3. Cooling on the new Envy X360 is pretty good. Fan does spin up during gaming, normal use it's mostly quiet.

 

11 hours ago, hobobobo said:

single channel user non-accessible ram, cool stuff

It can be accessed, just not user friendly. It's will most likely run at dual channel. I think their AMD Ryzen says single channel too, when people got it and checked it out, it ran at dual channel.

[CTR640]

29 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

My Spectre x360 has the same arrow keys - possibly the same whole keyboard. It's one of the only things I dislike about it - but I'm not using the arrow keys much on mine so I can live with that kind of annoyance.

 

However, if I were using this as a desktop replacement and doing a lot of excel or something, I might shoot myself

My dad got a HP laptop which uses these odd arrow keys and I use them for Office and I can tell you: they are fucking annoying.

Good I moved on to desktop with wide range of choices for keyboards.

[hobobobo]

43 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

It can be accessed, just not user friendly. It's will most likely run at dual channel. I think their AMD Ryzen says single channel too, when people got it and checked it out, it ran at dual channel.

Thought perhaps its soldered, guess its the same as my 7200u pavilion, gotta take off the entire backplate instead of opening a lil window labeled "ram"

[NumLock21]

1 hour ago, hobobobo said:

Thought perhaps its soldered, guess its the same as my 7200u pavilion, gotta take off the entire backplate instead of opening a lil window labeled "ram"

I have to take out my entire bottom plate as well. The good thing is everything gets exposed. I might as well do some cleaning some fan cleaning, while I upgrade my ram or storage drives.

[potoooooooo]

15 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

I have an HP Spectre x360 13” and the build quality is superb. 

 

For HP it really comes down to which series, and what price point. 

 

Their cheap sub $600 laptops are probably gonna suck. Just like most other sub $600 laptops. But the higher end series tend to have good quality. 

 

It also depends on which generation, as some are worse than others. 

I had a pavilion, had an Elite x2 (returned to HP) and a Spectre x360 15.

 

They were and are all hot garbage. I've never heard more coil whine from a machine ever, and the instability is just insane.

[Okjoek]

Why would anyone even want to implement Intel's iGPU for a laptop these days?

[dalekphalm]

59 minutes ago, potoooooooo said:

I had a pavilion, had an Elite x2 (returned to HP) and a Spectre x360 15.

 

They were and are all hot garbage. I've never heard more coil whine from a machine ever, and the instability is just insane.

As I said, I have the Spectre 13 - the machine is literally silent. I've never heard coil whine on it even once. Heat wise, it's not bad at all. It gets warm to the touch when doing more demanding tasks, but it's never once gotten uncomfortably warm.

 

Granted, the 15" might run hotter. But personally I avoided the 15" because I find that form factor pointless. A 15" tablet is simply too cumbersome to be useful in my opinion.

 

I have not used the Elite x2 so I cannot comment on that.

[NumLock21]

1 hour ago, Okjoek said:

Why would anyone even want to implement Intel's iGPU for a laptop these days?

It's built into their CPU, can't have a Intel CPU without a Intel iGPU.

[dalekphalm]

36 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

It's built into their CPU, can't have a Intel CPU without a Intel iGPU.

You can get some Xeon's with no iGPU - at least you used to - not sure about current gen Xeon's.

[NumLock21]

10 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

You can get some Xeon's with no iGPU - at least you used to - not sure about current gen Xeon's.

I think some desktop Xeons right now still don't have igpus. On laptops they all have igpus.