Asus NovaGo TP370QL: Win10 on Snapdragon

[Drak3]

30 minutes ago, Okjoek said:

Then why would I buy this?

Battery life. Also, if anyone cares, throw Android on it.

[suicidalfranco]

12 minutes ago, Matu20 said:

iOS is not even comparable to full Windows.

still 100 times that a crippled OS like win10S and better performing than this thing trying to emulate x86

[Matu20]

5 minutes ago, suicidalfranco said:

still 100 times that a crippled OS like win10S and better performing than this thing trying to emulate x86

100 times huh? Data analysis at it's best. 

[suicidalfranco]

10 minutes ago, Matu20 said:

100 times huh? Data analysis at it's best. 

the same data analysis that pushes MS to release bad products like this one in an attempt to one up Apple in the tablet market without understanding what pushes people toward them and fail miserably in the process 

[mynameisjuan]

23 minutes ago, suicidalfranco said:

still 100 times that a crippled OS like win10S and better performing than this thing trying to emulate x86

Wow.....iOS a 100x better than windows 10....ha.....haha...thanks for making my day. 

[suicidalfranco]

Just now, mynameisjuan said:

Wow.....iOS a 100x better than windows 10....ha.....haha...thanks for making my day. 

windows 10S + crippled performance due to emulation + high price tag = you can bet your ass an iPad is a overhaul better product than this crap

[mynameisjuan]

1 minute ago, suicidalfranco said:

windows 10S + crippled performance due to emulation + high price tag = you can bet your ass an iPad is a overhaul better product than this crap

Ok on your defense I didnt catch the "S". I thought you were talking actual windows. Performance is actually quite good but the problem is lack of anything to run.

[suicidalfranco]

Just now, mynameisjuan said:

Ok on your defense I didnt catch the "S". I thought you were talking actual windows. 

on arm, i'd say the same thing for base windows due to how bad these benchmark look and the fact that they ask 600$ for it. 

Now replace the snapdragon with say an m5/7 and the table would flip (as long as win10S is not the OS it ships with)

[LAwLz]

2 hours ago, mynameisjuan said:

Performance is actually quite good but the problem is lack of anything to run.

Ehm... It's like 1/5 of the performance of similarly priced i5 laptops.

Performance is horrible in these benchmarks. Absolutely abysmal.

[NumLock21]

6 hours ago, suicidalfranco said:

windows 10S + crippled performance due to emulation + high price tag = you can bet your ass an iPad is a overhaul better product than this crap

First thing they did immediately when getting that laptop was upgrade to Windows 10 Professional, which is a limited time free upgrade. All of the benchmarks you see is from Windows 10 Pro not Windows 10 Pro S.

[captain_to_fire]

6 hours ago, Matu20 said:

iOS is not even comparable to full Windows.

If only UWP apps are in the same quality as iOS apps but unfortunately not. UWP Netflix for instance takes a long time to play movies despite my 20/20 fiber connection and even the ones stored for offline playback takes some time to playback. The iOS Netflix apps buffers less, loads videos way faster either online or offline. I can't even find many VPN vendors on the Windows Store. Compare that to the many VPN apps for iOS/Android.

 

 

[Matu20]

11 hours ago, hey_yo_ said:

If only UWP apps are in the same quality as iOS apps but unfortunately not. UWP Netflix for instance takes a long time to play movies despite my 20/20 fiber connection and even the ones stored for offline playback takes some time to playback. The iOS Netflix apps buffers less, loads videos way faster either online or offline. I can't even find many VPN vendors on the Windows Store. Compare that to the many VPN apps for iOS/Android.

 

 

UWP sucks ass, I'm not disputing that, but you can use a full fledged Windows on this.

[Nicnac]

Only way to sell me on this would be if it was actually thinner than normal ultrabooks already are with increased battery life at the same time.

[randomhkkid]

On 11/12/2017 at 11:40 AM, LAwLz said:

Where in the article do they say they only ran the benchmarks once and reported that number?

They specifically say they ran the Cinebench one several times and the results did not change very much.

Ah that's true, I missed that line. I guess we can only hope that production drivers and further tweaks to the compiler will help. Perhaps the performance uplift only comes after a full restart of the application?

[N0rm]

I doubt anybody would buy an ARM notebook for it's x86 performance. This is for people who would like a Chrome OS machine but need to run non-performance-critical Windows software.

[LAwLz]

1 hour ago, N0rm said:

I doubt anybody would buy an ARM notebook for it's x86 performance. This is for people who would like a Chrome OS machine but need to run non-performance-critical Windows software.

Yes, but people buy Chromebooks because they are cheap.

This thing is 600 dollars. If you want to run Windows software why not go for a much higher performing i5 laptop for the same price? Besides, this laptop comes with Windows 10S, so you can't run most Windows programs unless you upgrade the OS, which will cost money too (the free upgrade is a limited time deal).

[Blake]

On 12/11/2017 at 3:11 PM, dizmo said:

I can't help but think...why.

More choices for the consumer.

 

Also, I know for a fact that 99% of the computers here at work are glorified email machines, that send HTTPS requests to a beefy server that do the heavy work should they do anything that isn't email.

 

Throw in a good EMM/MDM solution and you have the perfect 'who cares if you lose it' system. 

 

And I'm sure pricing will get corrected if no-one buys them.

[dizmo]

1 hour ago, Blake said:

More choices for the consumer.

 

Also, I know for a fact that 99% of the computers here at work are glorified email machines, that send HTTPS requests to a beefy server that do the heavy work should they do anything that isn't email.

 

Throw in a good EMM/MDM solution and you have the perfect 'who cares if you lose it' system. 

Except it's expensive. So. Not really a good choice for a throw away system. A Chromebook would be substantially cheaper and do the same thing.

[Blake]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Except it's expensive. So. Not really a good choice for a throw away system. A Chromebook would be substantially cheaper and do the same thing.

There is something called "business requirements". It's the reason a lot of executives get given iPads. and thous iPads get put into desk drawers never to be seen again.

Also keep in mind that the snapdragon 835 is used in phones (then compare the prices to that - Samsung s8 etc etc), basically your paying for a phone with windows instead of android + a different case/battery/screen.

[dizmo]

1 hour ago, Blake said:

There is something called "business requirements". It's the reason a lot of executives get given iPads. and thous iPads get put into desk drawers never to be seen again.

Also keep in mind that the snapdragon 835 is used in phones (then compare the prices to that - Samsung s8 etc etc), basically your paying for a phone with windows instead of android + a different case/battery/screen.

Errrm...you can't really compare pricing to phones, nor is i really relevant to a different product. You can have phones that cost $400 with an SD835, all the way up to $1,100.