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Ryzen 5 1600 with 2400Hz RAM?

Is that a good choice? My friend said that there is no point in getting a ryzen 5 1600 if you are using any RAM with speed below 3000. 

 

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You can always OC the RAM to a higher speed

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Your friend is wrong :) 

 

Lower frequency ram would be totally fine. For some games, higher frequency ram would be ideal (watch dogs 2 comes to mind, I think bf1 also can make use of it), but it's not a huge deal, especially when ram with Samsung b die (overclocks best with Ryzen) is so much more expensive.

 

Do try to overclock the ram though.

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I have two Ryzen systems now (1700, 1600), and both are running 2666 ram. Mostly because my existing ram doesn't run any higher and I'm too tight to get new ram. Don't worry about the performance.

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Running ram speeds above 3000mhz on ryzen doesn't make a big difference anymore.

Anyway, if you are still having issues with your budget like you had in the topics before, don't worry.

Stick with the 2133Mhz kit you have and pray it's a good kit that overclocks well so you can get a bit of that sweet free extra performance :D

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5 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

Running ram speeds above 3000mhz on ryzen doesn't make a big difference anymore.

Anyway, if you are still having issues with your budget like you had in the topics before, don't worry.

Stick with the 2133Mhz kit you have and pray it's a good kit that overclocks well so you can get a bit of that sweet free extra performance :D

erm yes it does, anything upto 3600mhz has great results, its just the cost vs the gains starts to get bad

 

22 minutes ago, Folktale said:

Is that a good choice? My friend said that there is no point in getting a ryzen 5 1600 if you are using any RAM with speed below 3000. 

 

This didn't help

 

Your friend is right. It would be better to add 3200mhz ram now rather than go for 2400mhz and add 3200mhz later. 

 

https://www.eteknix.com/memory-speed-large-impact-ryzen-performance/

 

 

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8 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

Running ram speeds above 3000mhz on ryzen doesn't make a big difference anymore.

Anyway, if you are still having issues with your budget like you had in the topics before, don't worry.

Stick with the 2133Mhz kit you have and pray it's a good kit that overclocks well so you can get a bit of that sweet free extra performance :D

It is 2400Mhz, not 2133Mhz. :) 

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5 minutes ago, Folktale said:

It is 2400Mhz, not 2133Mhz. :) 

That's even better, let's hope it overclocks well :P

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8 minutes ago, stealth80 said:
31 minutes ago, Folktale said:

 

Your friend is right. It would be better to add 3200mhz ram now rather than go for 2400mhz and add 3200mhz later. 

 

https://www.eteknix.com/memory-speed-large-impact-ryzen-performance/

OP isn't even close to being able to buy high Hz RAM.  It's fine if they get lower memory

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2133mhz is fine... sure if it was Intel CPU it would be better since them work perfectly fine even on the lowest tier memory while Ryzen will see significant performance boost going with 3000+ however I am pretty certain nothing will stop you from enjoying gaming with the memory you have already, we're talking about at maximum a couple of fps.

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13 minutes ago, Damascus said:

OP isn't even close to being able to buy high Hz RAM.  It's fine if they get lower memory

yup but that wasn't the question 

 

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Just now, stealth80 said:

yup but that wasn't the question 

:/ got it, just worried they might go for an i5 instead

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1 minute ago, Damascus said:

:/ got it, just worried they might go for an i5 instead

I might @_@

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3 minutes ago, Folktale said:

I might @_@

Getting an i5 would be a greater mistake than getting a ryzen 5 with 2133mhz ram.

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1 minute ago, Damascus said:

Dude, an r5 system with crap RAM will outperform an i5 with amazing RAM.

I was just kidding. I am sticking with these specs. But if I can spend 1000 more on a higher frequency ram, I will probably get 3000 or 3200 hz RAM :)

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For gaming, faster ram only helps if your CPU is the bottleneck, if you have a mainstream gpu it won't make any difference.

 

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3 hours ago, MyName13 said:

For gaming, faster ram only helps if your CPU is the bottleneck, if you have a mainstream gpu it won't make any difference.

 

Will Ryzen and the b350 PLUS board support any brand of RAM? I am seeing conflicting answers. The compatibility list on ASUS' website doesn't help either. Almost every RAM I can find is not listed there. Duh!

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My ram is at 2400 MHz with my 1600X and I still don't have any issues keeping 144+ fps in the games I care about. Overwatch comes to mind, for example.

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8 hours ago, Emberstone said:

My ram is at 2400 MHz with my 1600X and I still don't have any issues keeping 144+ fps in the games I care about. Overwatch comes to mind, for example.

 

8 hours ago, Emberstone said:

My ram is at 2400 MHz with my 1600X and I still don't have any issues keeping 144+ fps in the games I care about. Overwatch comes to mind, for example.

you have this ram?

http://www.amazon.in/G-SKILL-Ripjaws-F4-2400C15S-8GRR-PC4-19200-DDR4/dp/B019DUED3M/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1494738818&sr=1-3&keywords=Ripjaws+2400

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17 minutes ago, Folktale said:

I'm using a 3200 MHz kit that I'm running at 2400 MHz because it won't boot if I go higher.

Current Build:

CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X3D

GPU: RTX 3080 Ti FE

RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z CL16 3200 MHz

Mobo: Asus Tuf X570 Plus Wifi

CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X53

PSU: EVGA G6 Supernova 850

Case: NZXT S340 Elite

 

Current Laptop:

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CPU: Ryzen 9 5900HS

GPU: RTX 3060

RAM: 16GB @3200 MHz

 

Old PC:

CPU: Intel i7 8700K @4.9 GHz/1.315v

RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z CL16 3200 MHz

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Just now, Emberstone said:

I'm using a 3200 MHz kit that I'm running at 2400 MHz because it won't boot if I go higher.

But I am asking if it will be fine if I use any brand of RAM as long as it's 2400MHz and DDR4?

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8 hours ago, Folktale said:

But I am asking if it will be fine if I use any brand of RAM as long as it's 2400MHz and DDR4?

That's not exactly how it works. Each memory kit is different, so if your mobo manufacturer didn't spend any time optimizing for that kit/type of kit you might not get any higher than 2133, even though that's pretty rare these days since Ryzen memory compatibility has gotten a lot better overall.

 

It's best to see if the memory kit you want is on the QVL (qualified vendor list) for the motherboard you want, and if it's qualified for the speeds you want. A mobo's QVL can usually be found on its support page.

 

That said, G.Skill Flare X 3200 MHz is generally considered one of the best kits you can currently buy since it's a collection of all the things Ryzen wants in a memory module. I believe there are 2400 and 3200 MHz variants?

Current Build:

CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X3D

GPU: RTX 3080 Ti FE

RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z CL16 3200 MHz

Mobo: Asus Tuf X570 Plus Wifi

CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X53

PSU: EVGA G6 Supernova 850

Case: NZXT S340 Elite

 

Current Laptop:

Model: Asus ROG Zephyrus G14

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900HS

GPU: RTX 3060

RAM: 16GB @3200 MHz

 

Old PC:

CPU: Intel i7 8700K @4.9 GHz/1.315v

RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z CL16 3200 MHz

Mobo: Asus Prime Z370-A

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2 minutes ago, Emberstone said:

That's not exactly how it works. Each memory kit is different, so if your mobo manufacturer didn't spend any time optimizing for that kit/type of kit you might not get any higher than 2133, even though that's pretty rare these days since Ryzen memory compatibility has gotten a lot better overall.

 

It's best to see if the memory kit you want is on the QVL (qualified vendor list) for the motherboard you want, and if it's qualified for the speeds you want. A mobo's QVL can usually be found on its support page.

 

That said, G.Skill Flare X 3200 MHz is generally considered one of the best kits you can currently buy since it's a collection of all the things Ryzen wants in a memory module. I believe there are 2400 and 3200 MHz variants?

Here:

 

G.Skill Flare X 2400 MHz costs here around $327

 

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2 minutes ago, Folktale said:

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You don't need any fancy g.skill memory, just buy Corsair Value Select 2133mhz it'll be cheap and work either ways.

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