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Ryzen 5 1600 with 2400Hz RAM?

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

You don't need any fancy g.skill memory, just buy Corsair Value Select 2133mhz it'll be cheap and work either ways.

But isn't that a step down from 2400? I mean, shouldn't I just move to intel?

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10 minutes ago, Folktale said:

But isn't that a step down from 2400? I mean, shouldn't I just move to intel?

You should quit giving that much of a care, these small performance differences you get from going with a 3200mhz kit over a 2400mhz kit is stuff for enthusiastic people to care for, you just want to game within the short budget you have; which you'll be perfectly capable to do, without any issue what so ever with a ryzen 5 1600 using whatever memory.

 

After you tweak and balance your graphical settings in the  game, you'll be capable to play any thing with 60fps + just fine, ultra settings where you have to squeeze every bit out of your hardware is pointless and just a side hobby, some people don't even care about gaming any more as a hobby only to ensure they get the best performance at stupidly high settings and then they start advising unnecessary shit to other people who just want something capable of decent quality gaming.

 

Ultra settings sucks:

 

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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

You should quit giving that much of a care, these small performance differences you get from going with a 3200mhz kit over a 2400mhz kit is stuff for enthusiastic people to care for, you just want to game within the short budget you have; which you'll be perfectly capable to do, without any issue what so ever with a ryzen 5 1600 using whatever memory.

 

After you tweak and balance your graphical settings in the  game, you'll be capable to play any thing with 60fps + just fine, ultra settings where you have to squeeze every bit out of your hardware is pointless and just a side hobby, some people don't even care about gaming any more as a hobby only to ensure they get the best performance at stupidly high settings and then they start advising unnecessary shit to other people who just want something capable of decent quality gaming.

 

Ultra settings sucks:

 

I don't care about ultra settings. That's why I said numerous times in my previous posts that I don't wanna game in some 2k or 4k resolution and in ultra settings.

 

But everyone is saying to have a better RAM for Ryzen. My friend said going with 2400Hz RAM for editing purpose is not good with Ryzen. Now 3000 and 3200Hz RAM are costly. But I cannot find a SINGLE 2400Hz RAM compatible with Ryzen. I even check out another mobo's QVL and same case there. 

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14 minutes ago, Folktale said:

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Get Corsair Vengeance

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sMbkcf/corsair-memory-cmk8gx4m1a2400c16

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CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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Just now, Folktale said:

Not compatible with the Board. I will check the listing of MSI Tomahawk board.

It doesn't have to be compatible, It is the memory I literally use on my Asus Prime x370 Pro.

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CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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Just now, Princess Cadence said:

It doesn't have to be compatible, It is the memory I literally use on my Asus Prime x370 Pro.

I don't understand this, sorry.

 

1. I select a RAM.

2. I find that the RAM is not compatible with the Board.

3. I ask on the LTT forum and this is what I get:

 

5. Now you tell me that it doesn't have to be compatible. I don't understand all this yes and no game. :)

 

Another question: If compatibility is not an issue, why there are QVL on mobo's manufacturers' website?

 

Am I missing something?

 

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1 minute ago, Folktale said:

Another question: If compatibility is not an issue, why there are QVL on mobo's manufacturers' website?

Every ram works pretty much identical, therefore any ram should technically work, however the manufacturer such as MSi on your case will double check to make sure compatibility to the full potential (counting XMP) with a couple of selected memories, that doesn't mean the others don't work, any memory will work at least on the base frequency without XMP they just tell you which memory is 100% guaranteed work with even XMP enable.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Every ram works pretty much identical, therefore any ram should technically work, however the manufacturer such as MSi on your case will double check to make sure compatibility to the full potential (counting XMP) with a couple of selected memories, that doesn't mean the others don't work, any memory will work at least on the base frequency without XMP they just tell you which memory is 100% guaranteed work with even XMP enable.

now I am sceptical about Ryzen :(

 

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17 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Every ram works pretty much identical, therefore any ram should technically work, however the manufacturer such as MSi on your case will double check to make sure compatibility to the full potential (counting XMP) with a couple of selected memories, that doesn't mean the others don't work, any memory will work at least on the base frequency without XMP they just tell you which memory is 100% guaranteed work with even XMP enable.

So I should close my eyes and pick any RAM with 2400Hz speed?

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Just now, Folktale said:

So I should close my eyes and pick any RAM with 2400Hz speed?

Pretty much... just go easy on "any" get from a good reputable brand such as Corsair or Crucial and you'll be fine.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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10 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Pretty much... just go easy on "any" get from a good reputable brand such as Corsair or Crucial and you'll be fine.

G skill?

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10 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Pretty much... just go easy on "any" get from a good reputable brand such as Corsair or Crucial and you'll be fine.

How much performance difference, in gaming and rendering, between 2133 and 2400?

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1 minute ago, Folktale said:

How much performance difference, in gaming and rendering, between 2133 and 2400?

None worth your trouble :P

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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1 hour ago, Princess Cadence said:

You don't need any fancy g.skill memory, just buy Corsair Value Select 2133mhz it'll be cheap and work either ways.

@Folktale I'd trust this person way more over myself since I've only got my own personal experiences to go on. Take their advice!

Current Build:

CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X3D

GPU: RTX 3080 Ti FE

RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z CL16 3200 MHz

Mobo: Asus Tuf X570 Plus Wifi

CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X53

PSU: EVGA G6 Supernova 850

Case: NZXT S340 Elite

 

Current Laptop:

Model: Asus ROG Zephyrus G14

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900HS

GPU: RTX 3060

RAM: 16GB @3200 MHz

 

Old PC:

CPU: Intel i7 8700K @4.9 GHz/1.315v

RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z CL16 3200 MHz

Mobo: Asus Prime Z370-A

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1 minute ago, Emberstone said:

@Folktale I'd trust this person way more over myself since I've only got my own personal experiences to go on. Take their advice!

It's not about trust. It's about availability. Everything is available in other countries. But not here in India. It is very costly online and buying from there will be a mistake. I just wanna know if I could go with any RAM without encountering any issues. I cannot spend extra money if something goes wrong. :(

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