Low image quality on newer GPUs

[jgimmelli]

Someone said that they fixed the problem by going to windows 10 from 7. Should this work and has anyone tried it?

[jgimmelli]

Im going to upgrade to windows 10 and see if it does anything.

[vanished]

Im going to upgrade to windows 10 and see if it does anything.

If you do that take some screenshots now on 7 so you can objectively compare later

[jgimmelli]

If you do that take some screenshots now on 7 so you can objectively compare later

Im trying to and when I get to the final step it gets to 40 percent and says Windows couldnt configure one or more system componets. It then returns to windows 7. How do I fix this?

[vanished]

Im trying to and when I get to the final step it gets to 40 percent and says Windows couldnt configure one or more system componets. It then returns to windows 7. How do I fix this?

I don't want to derail the topic with how to install/upgrade windows 10, but if it is not upgrading, you can always just do a clean install of 10 directly.  Apparently they have changed how the licensing works; you used to have to upgrade and it would then recognize that hardware as licensed, allowing you to reinstall 10 whenever without a key, but installing 10 directly the first time would not work.  Now, if what I've been hearing can be believed, you can just install 10 directly and when it asks for a key, use the key for your existing 7/8/8.1 installation.

[Demiqas]

Something I've been thinking about is how all of us experience this problem.. I thougth the bluescreen I got after two weeks was standard, but then I read people having these issues instantly or it happened suddenly without a bluescreen. We're all using the same type of cards from the same manufacturers, so what could possibly cause this difference? If it's one the same issue we should all experience the exact same thing prior to the graphical downgrade.

 

Funny thing, I remember 4 years ago, playing skyrim on my laptop with an integrated chip, I suddenly started noticing that everything looked horribly pixelated whereas it was perfect before. Didn't pay much attention to it and I was a little illiterate towards these things back then, but I could never really touch skyrim anymore because of how much it was bothering me before I started noticing it in other games too. I just realise I had probably experienced the exact same thing that we are now.

 

Anyway, I bought a pair of second hand 9800gt's. Going to download some old drivers and see if I notice any difference. I'll take some screenies with my current intel HD before installing the card. For the record, my intel HD went through the same downgrade.. this time it took about a week. Funny thing, the bluescreen happened right after a very choppy installation of morrowind. Happened exactly when I pressed "play" and I ended up having to restore my system to a restore point because it wouldn't launch otherwise. The fact that restoring my PC to before the bluescreen happened, yet the issue remaining may mean that this is some sort of permanent hardware damage....

[vanished]

The fact that restoring my PC to before the bluescreen happened, yet the issue remaining may mean that this is some sort of permanent hardware damage....

Don't be so sure - a system restore is far from going back to how your computer was in a time machine.

[Demiqas]

Don't be so sure - a system restore is far from going back to how your computer was in a time machine.

Ah well, I'm not too familiar with the details of it.

 

Just going to have to wait for the 9800gt's to arrive.

[Demiqas]

I was just looking at some random pictures online and I came accross something interesting. A certain forum, when making an image bigger, would make it sharper for a few seconds before it became normal again.

 

The below screenshots are both *exactly the same* screenshots. The only difference is that the first one for some reason had sharpening applied to it:

(watch image in full size, especially pay attention to the distance and compare them)

 

 

Notice how the sharper image has a lot of those white lines that we see in games, but the normal one doesn't (especially noticable at bridge in distance). If our graphical issues are a result of this sharpening, would it mean that most of it is traceable to the fact that lod bias stopped working? Considering that the side effect of a broken lod bias is the image being a lot sharper.

[jinx33]

It sure is.. and as the lod bias seems unactive, i can even see lighting problems in my games. Currently replaying the Witcher 3, and funny thing is, aside of AA not working and crazy pop-in, the DOF itself is not working, landscape in the background is sharp and thats why its even more easier to notice the problem (in conversations thought the DOF works).

 

I don't know if people here play this game, but if you do, the part where you go to Skellige, you normally see a whale having fun jumping out of the water to greet you, well my first playthrough of the game the animation was normal, now if i'm actually 10/15 feet away, the animation will stuck, a part of the whale being above the water, not moving, and the animation will finish if i get close. Somehow funny.

[Demiqas]

Well, I've found some really old (196.21) drivers, and nowhere in the release notes does it say anything about lod bias not working, so I'm going to assume it has functioning lod bias clamping. I'll try this out as soon as I get my 9800gt and see what happens..

[jinx33]

Good luck with that. I wish i could try things too on my side, but i'm pretty much limited with a lappy. And i'm not gonna try to upgrade or install W10 on a hunch, since it's gonna be a nightmare to configure everything properly with dedicated drivers.

[MEC-777]

DS is downsampling, right? How does it compare to Nvidia DSR in the control panel? Is there a difference?

 

VSR is AMD's version of DSR and does the exact same thing. Renders the entire image at a higher resolution, then downsamples to your native resolution. DS AA is a form of anti-aliasing where just the aliased parts of the image are rendered higher, then downsampled. DS AA is less demanding than DSR/VSR. Visually it's very similar to when I used to run the game with VSR at 1440p with DS6X on my previous set-up with crossfire 290's.

[jjohnthedon1]

Not sure if this is related but after my blue screen a few weeks ago my shadows started going ugly as shit in all games

Check out the car shadow that's ultra with Ud shadows on

[jjohnthedon1]

VSR is AMD's version of DSR and does the exact same thing. Renders the entire image at a higher resolution, then downsamples to your native resolution. DS AA is a form of anti-aliasing where just the aliased parts of the image are rendered higher, then downsampled. DS AA is less demanding than DSR/VSR. Visually it's very similar to when I used to run the game with VSR at 1440p with DS6X on my previous set-up with crossfire 290's.

So it's the same as ssaa aliasing ?

[MEC-777]

So it's the same as ssaa aliasing ?

 

I believe so. Very similar. 

[vanished]

Not sure if this is related but after my blue screen a few weeks ago my shadows started going ugly as shit in all games

Check out the car shadow that's ultra with Ud shadows on

 

Interesting.  That's another confirmation of the "minecraft shadows" effect.

[App4that]

Not sure if this is related but after my blue screen a few weeks ago my shadows started going ugly as shit in all games

Check out the car shadow that's ultra with Ud shadows on

Check the shadow resolution set in the ini files.

[jjohnthedon1]

Check the shadow resolution set in the ini files.

i have dude at it was what it was meant to be,

Happened in witcher 3 and fallout 4 too

[App4that]

i have dude at it was what it was meant to be,

Happened in witcher 3 and fallout 4 too

That sucks. In fallout 4 the higher the shadow distance is, the poorer the shadow quality will be, little known fact. So reducing the shadow distance increases shadow quality. Maybe the shadow distance is being increased somehow? Is is worse for shadow up close than those at a distance?

[jjohnthedon1]

That sucks. In fallout 4 the higher the shadow distance is, the poorer the shadow quality will be, little known fact. So reducing the shadow distance increases shadow quality. Maybe the shadow distance is being increased somehow? Is is worse for shadow up close than those at a distance?

cant remember il have a look tomora

But I know for sure that it wasn't happening before I had a random blue screen

[App4that]

cant remember il have a look tomora

But I know for sure that it wasn't happening before I had a random blue screen

If the shadow quality is as it should be, then ether the game is using another value or the distance is out of control

 

Next time you play Fallout 4 hit the "~" key, this will open the command console. Then type "refreshini" and hit enter. See if that helps.

[DKL]

If the shadow quality is as it should be, then ether the game is using another value or the distance is out of control

 

Next time you play Fallout 4 hit the "~" key, this will open the command console. Then type "refreshini" and hit enter. See if that helps.

I'm surprised you didn't specify before/during/after opening the game.

[App4that]

I'm surprised you didn't specify before/during/after opening the game.

I live dangerously, and have never seen a broken save in Fallout 4. Skyrim, hell yes I've run through the process. Fallout 4 is pretty bullet proof in that regard, best quality it has :lol:

[jjohnthedon1]

If the shadow quality is as it should be, then ether the game is using another value or the distance is out of control

Next time you play Fallout 4 hit the "~" key, this will open the command console. Then type "refreshini" and hit enter. See if that helps.

il try it bro but it's happening in a few games and I also get a wired shimmery effect that looks like antialiasing isn't working properly

Also again only since the blue screen

Very strange