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Seasonic Focus GX - An Overview/Review

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Thanks to @Seasonic Rep for the sample

 

Some brief information

The Seasonic Focus and Focus Plus will be replaced by 4 new focus models: The GM, GX, PX and SGX. The GM will replace the Focus, having 7 years of warranty, an 80+ gold rating and semi-modular cables. The GX will replace the Focus Plus Gold, having 10 years of warranty, an 80+ gold rating and fully modular cables. The PX will replace the Focus Plus Platinum, having 10 years of warranty, 80+ platinum rating and fully modular cables. The SGX will not replace any current focus units, but rather starting a new line as an SFX-L, having 10 years of warranty, 80+ gold rating and fully modular cables.

The new units are still all single rail, which I'm personally less of a fan of, especially after 650w (which makes it less of a case here, but is applicable for other focus GX units) . This is because of the rare case that undervoltage protection would be ruled out or fail and a rail would drop down in voltage. after this wattage it's likely to burn the cables when this would happen. this is a rare, but not impossible case.

 

External shots

 

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Bottom/label

 

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Side

 

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Back

 

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Side

 

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included cables

 

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Connectors

 

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Box

 

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Top/fan

 

Internal shots

 

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Total view

 

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backside

 

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DC-DC section

 

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Full internal

 

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APFC side

 

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Fan

 

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close-up for fan model

 

Performance data

as we currently don't own any equipment to test PSUs on efficiency, noise and other things, I'll leave some data here from reputable reviewers about a GX based model in form of the Phanteks AMP.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phanteks-amp-series-550w-power-supply-review

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phanteks-amp-series-650w-power-supply-review

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phanteks-amp-series-750w-power-supply

 

Other things in the box

- Zipties

- PSU tester (shorts 2 pins on 24-pin to turn it on)

- Manual

- Quick start guide

- Power cable

- 4 screws

 

Cables

24 pin (Motherboard)

 

EPS12V (CPU)

 

PCIe power (GPU)

 

SATA

 

Molex

 

1x20+4

 

2x2 6+2 pin

 

2x2 4+4 pin

 

10

 

4 (3+1 on sata cable)

 

 

 

 

Power distribution

+3.3v

+5v

+12v

-12v

+5vsb

20a

20a

62a

0.3a

3a

100w

100w

648w

3.6w

15w

 

The fan

The fan can be set in 2 different modes, a normal and a "hybrid" mode. This can be toggled with a button on the back, unpressed being in this hybrid mode, and pressed in a normal mode. hybrid mode keeps the fan off up to a certain load, with measurements from Seasonic having it start spinning after 30% load with 25 degrees ambient. the normal mode keeps the fan spinning at a lower rpm at this load, but not passively like the hybrid mode. I personally prefer the normal mode, as it's not noticeable over the fans in my case. The fan used here is a FDB (Fluid Dynamic Bearing). This is is a Hong Hua HA1225H12F-Z, rated for 2200 rpm at 12v 0.58a. 

 

Personal notes

- When installing the PSU in my masterbox 5 lite rgb, i found the 8 pin EPS a bit on the short side, as i could barely reach it on my motherboard. I had to take my cooler out to properly install it.

- Most of the cables aren't sleeved, which some might prefer

- A 3x SATA cable would've been easier to manage in my case, from experience with the CX550m

- The tester is a nice touch

- you can't easily dust out the PSU, since the top has to be fully taken off to remove the fan

 

Final Verdict

+ silent at lower loads (meets blue color requirements as of revision 13.0)

+ pretty looking

+ fully modular

+ choice between semi-passive or always-spinning fan

+ wide range of cables for a 650w unit

+ stays well within ATX specification 2.52 (as per measurements by Aris)

- doesn't meet 2% low-load requirements (as per measurements by Aris)

- doesn't meet gilding requirements (as of revision 13.0)

- 8 pin EPS could've been a little longer

? 2x8 pin EPS

? protections set ~140%, but regulation stays fine within it (as per measurements by Aris)

? single rail without options to set multi-rail

 

link to mentioned products:

https://seasonic.com/focus-gx

https://seasonic.com/focus-px

https://seasonic.com/focus-gm

https://seasonic.com/focus-plus-gold

https://seasonic.com/focus-gold


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HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

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Promising, if the main goal was to solve the OCP problems and whatnot from the prior focus line, and if this was achieved without altering the platform overall or its price by much, I can see myself recommending this a lot. Seeing as the only real detriment barring me from recommending the old focus was the single crippling oversight, this will make for a good unit. Any projections on where this might fall on our tier list?


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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, OlympicAssEater said:

Do you recommend this psu?

not yet, as i want official reviews to be out

 

but theoretically it should be close to the NZXT E, and what the focus honestly should've been in the first place, even if i have some likings regarding it which seasonic knew in advance 


PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//ATX Specification//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//How many watts?//PSU Protections

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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

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DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, Fasauceome said:

Any projections on where this might fall on our tier list?

if nothing weird comes out it'll stay in tier a


PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//ATX Specification//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//How many watts?//PSU Protections

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

Spoiler

CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

not yet, as i want official reviews to be out

 

but theoretically it should be close to the NZXT E, and what the focus honestly should've been in the first place, even if i have some likings regarding it which seasonic knew in advance 

In what rank or tier in your psu list? 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, OlympicAssEater said:

In what rank or tier in your psu list? 

would be tier a


PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//ATX Specification//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//How many watts?//PSU Protections

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

Spoiler

CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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41 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

if nothing weird comes out it'll stay in tier a

 

39 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

would be tier a

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Twilight said:

HOW MUCH DID THEY PAY YOU!?!?!?!11?1

a psu and gummybears

 

seriously though, nzxt e is a focus that is in tier a already, as they had to add a dedicated OCP for the monitoring, which pretty much never encountered the problems focus has had

 

so if gx comes out the same, it's a tier a


PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//ATX Specification//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//How many watts?//PSU Protections

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

Spoiler

CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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Sooo..
Other than a content dump from the info page and a few "it looks better / is silent"
Did you do any testing for safety / reliability ?

I don't really see what this brings to the table lol


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Posted · Original PosterOP
37 minutes ago, givingtnt said:

Did you do any testing for safety / reliability ?

i don't have the tools for that, even if i tried to get my hands on something, that was rather unsuccesful

 

hence i marked it overview, not review


PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//ATX Specification//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//How many watts?//PSU Protections

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

Spoiler

CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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2 hours ago, givingtnt said:

Sooo..
Other than a content dump from the info page and a few "it looks better / is silent"
Did you do any testing for safety / reliability ?

I don't really see what this brings to the table lol

Seasonic valued it at ... What $89?

 

It's helpful, compiled information and speculation from a passionate and respected member of our community who has volunteered a ton of time in putting together solid info for those who understand less. 

 

He states right at the beginning what it is and isn't.

 

What exactly do you bring to this community?

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12 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

There are no big changes for this model. The only thing is the inline capacitors have been removed from ATX 24 pins, CPU and PCIe cables and put inside.

12 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

Personal notices

- The in-cable caps look quite exposed

 

? ?

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
12 minutes ago, OrionFOTL said:

? ?

 

long story short, it's something i probably need to edit... i'll come back to it later


PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//ATX Specification//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//How many watts?//PSU Protections

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

Spoiler

CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
11 minutes ago, RainingTacco said:

Do you still have the PSU? Can you send it to jonnyGURU for test? 

i do

 

if Tazz wanted it, he would've requested one already, if he didn't already

 

and aris has done a review on the platform based Phanteks AMP


PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//ATX Specification//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//How many watts?//PSU Protections

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

Spoiler

CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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5 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

i do

 

if Tazz wanted it, he would've requested one already, if he didn't already

 

and aris has done a review on the platform based Phanteks AMP

Thanks.Ive just read the Phanteks AMP review, and looks like they've removed all issues. The 3,3V OCP works as expected, and the ripple at 110% load is excellent, given the lack of incable caps.

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