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Giving Hades the cold shoulder - new intel NUCs announced

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It will come with the 25 Watt version of the U-series intel 10th generation CPUs, however it does not come with radeon graphics like how its last generation was (there was never a NUC with 9th gen CPU).

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Intel's newest NUC is seemingly the rumored "Frost Canyon" and might look the same as it's the predecessor

Not all the details pertaining to the newest NUC is available at this time, but it does look like this NUC will be in a similar (or the same) 4 x 4 enclosure. From a tip per the leaker @momomo_US, the upcoming Frost Canyon NUCs will be powered by Intel Comet Lake-U CPUs.

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Intel's Frost Canyon NUC Configurations: There are seemingly three different versions of this NUC, each being centered around a different processor.

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  1. i7-10710U
    1. This processor is a very high-end laptop processor that has a total of 6 cores (2 logical threads per physical core).
    2. This processor has a clock speed of 1.1 GHz, not very fast but the TDP under a normal operation if 15 watts. The boost clock of the processor is an amazing 4.7 GHz which makes sense when looking at the max TDP 25 watts.
    3. The score for the CPU benchmark is 12985 pts.
  2. i5-10210U
    1. This processor is the more mid-range processor which has a total of 4 cores (2 logical threads per physical core).
    2. The clock speed of 1.6 GHz is the base clock of this processor which is quite a bit faster than the i7 variant but has a slower max clock speed of 4.2 GHz.
    3. The score for this processor is 8814 pts.
  3. i3-10110U
    1. i3 has a base clock speed of 2.10 GHz, which is significantly faster i5. The boost clock of the i3 is a 4.1 GHz which is only 0.1 GHz slower than the i5's boost clock.
    2. The i3 only has 2 cores (2 logical threads per physical core) which make this processor noticeably the lower-end model.
    3. The score from CPUBenchmark is 5930 pts.

The Intel NUC 10 is most definitely not aimed at the gaming community, seeing as there is no discrete graphics card of any type, and as such the integrated graphics unit runs all the connected displays. This means that (since the CPU is a comet-lake generation) means that the integrated graphics is Intel's UHD graphics 620 solutions. The NUCs are currently available for pre-order on BLT's website, with no information on when the items will actually be available.

Source:https://wccftech.com/intel-nuc-10-appears-with-10th-gen-comet-lake-u-cpus/

Thoughts: While I believe nobody ever actually use a NUC to play video games, having it stuck with it's Iris iGPU means it's limited to only commerce and office use. The price isn't exactly welcoming either.


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The price plays into the fact it's used in commerce and office settings ;)

I'd consider getting these. It's nice being able to simply mount it to the back of the monitor and forget it.


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however it does not come with radeon graphics like how its last generation was

That’s unfortunate. I heard from a retired intel engineer that there had been a good deal of interesting engineering done by both sides to make that work.


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19 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

That’s unfortunate. I heard from a retired intel engineer that there had been a good deal of interesting engineering done by both sides to make that work.

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29 minutes ago, Tedny said:

looks little bit to big 

They are smaller than a Mac Mini, thought they don't have integrated PSUs so the actual amount of bulk is probably roughly similar. 


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That's the standard NUC. Intel has also introduced a more powerful NUC that uses modular approach called Element. It's code name is Ghost Canyon.

 


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Unless its for hiding in a discreet spot I don't understand NUC's (or their variants) its such low power (performance).  My i3 6100t is supremely sluggish when driving a 4k monitor.  (SSD, plenty of ram, fresh OS install etc)


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Intel likes to hamstring the value of their NUCs by not giving them GPU over Thunderbolt.

 

Hope one day AMD enters this segment to chase Intel up the wall again.


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13 hours ago, Tristerin said:

Unless its for hiding in a discreet spot I don't understand NUC's (or their variants) its such low power (performance).  My i3 6100t is supremely sluggish when driving a 4k monitor.  (SSD, plenty of ram, fresh OS install etc)

Their use is in offices. It is WAY enough for sales, accounting, legal to use daily.

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18 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Hope one day AMD enters this segment to chase Intel up the wall again.

Have AMD actually made CPU-based system products in some form? Intel do "make" their own mobos and NUCs, but without looking it up, I guess they work with partners to actually build them rather than manage it in house. I don't see why AMD couldn't do the same if they want to, or open it up further and encourage other manufacturers to do so.

 

I wonder if the APUs could be used for this space. Problem with current models are they're much higher TDP (even if they might be higher performance), but they'll lag Intel in core count until such time they go above 4 cores in that CPU are. Situation might get more interesting when the Zen 2 models come out next year but it will depend on how the power budget swings alongside efficiency.

 

I do wish AMD would seriously enter the mobile CPU area as there is great potential there. Their current offerings are essentially slightly power limited desktop CPUs.


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We usually sell those to shops. Easy to hide or mount to a screen. Easy to maintain as well.

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