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This is my first time viewing this build log, and I must say I love the level of detail you've put into absolutely everything. :D

 

If I fly to Switzerland, will you teach me your ways? :P

 

Btw I was born on November 10th as well :)


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Contrast rules the day. That looks nice, the overall picture is what you see, not just the individual parts.

Yup, keeping the big picture in mind is rather important I think.

Update coming slowly. precision has it's cost in time!

 

Very much so.

 

This is my first time viewing this build log, and I must say I love the level of detail you've put into absolutely everything. :D

 

If I fly to Switzerland, will you teach me your ways? :P

 

Thanks mate, I appreciate the kind words. Although it shouldn't really be necessary

for you to fly here for me to teach you the stuff you'd need to know to do this yourself.

When I'm done with this it should have pretty much all the info you need. :)

Btw I was born on November 10th as well :)

Well what can I say, it's a good date to have a birthday on! :D


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Fan Disassembly

I actually wanted to make a video of this, but I didn't have the time to do it properly,

and I'd rather do it not at all than sub-par. It would have been easier to follow along

if somebody else wanted to take their fan apart, but for the time being still pics will

have to do.

Side note: This post is more geared towards those who've never taken a fan apart.

For most other people it will probably be rather boring and trivial.

(click image for full res)

aw--helios--2013-09-19--01--bfspro.jpeg

First, take the inner frame out of the outer one. I have found it is easiest to do this

by pressing on the inner frame between the two lugs in each corner instead of the

lugs directly.

(click image for full res)

aw--helios--2013-09-19--02--bfspro-frame

Next, take off the sticker on the back. I use some petroleum ether to get rid of the

sticky residue (very annoying stuff).

(click image for full res)

aw--helios--2013-09-19--03--bfspro-stick

Then take out the gasket which covers the bearing's back side. It's not extremely

delicate, but if you're not careful you can damage it nonetheless. Also, you can see

my most important tool for this process: A dental tool. :D

(click image for full res)

aw--helios--2013-09-19--04--bfspro-gaske

And here comes the part which is actually tricky. The rotor is held in place by a small

washer which sits in a groove on the rotor's axis. The washer has a slit in it.

I found the easiest way to get this washer out of that groove to be this:

  • Take two of those dental tools from above.
  • Press down on the washer with one of them and make sure it doesn't rotate

    anymore (remember: this is a bearing made for rotation, so it moves rather

    easily and is well lubricated, i.e. slippery).

  • Press the tip of the second dental tool into the slit of the washer and twist

    one of the ends of the washer upwards (this usually takes me several tries since

    I often slip). The washer is very flexible, so don't worry too much about breaking

    it. Be careful, but not afraid.

  • Once the washer is nicely twisted and one of its ends pointing out of the

    bearing, get the second dental tool under the washer and pop it out.

  • That's it, you can now slide the rotor out on the other side. :)
The washer is the white thing inside the red circle.

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aw--helios--2013-09-19--05--bfspro-washe

The red arrow is pointing towards the washer's slit into which you need to get the

tool.

(click image for full res)

aw--helios--2013-09-19--06--bfspro-washe

And here we have the bearing with the rotor removed. The red ring is actually an O-ring

resting on top of another washer. Both of these are actually loose and are only held in

place because the lubricant makes them a bit sticky (you will have noticed this when

taking out the washer in the above step). There is also one of these O-rings on the

rotor axis itself. You can take them out if you want, but I left them in.

(click image for full res)

aw--helios--2013-09-19--07--bfspro-rotor

The disassembled rotor and inner frame:

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aw--helios--2013-09-19--08--bfspro-disas

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aw--helios--2013-09-19--09--bfspro-disas

And my disassembled army of fans (you know, the other one :D ):

(click image for full res)

aw--helios--2013-09-19--10--army-of-fans

I don't think you necessarily need dental tools to do this, but I had them anyway,

tried them out and found them to work very well for this. If you want to buy some,

you can get them on eBay for a few bucks per set.

I'm currently painting the fans and should have an update on that some time over

the weekend.

That's it for today. Thanks for stopping by,

-aw


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Fan Disassembly

I actually wanted to make a video of this, but I didn't have the time to do it properly,

and I'd rather do it not at all than sub-par. It would have been easier to follow along

if somebody else wanted to take their fan apart, but for the time being still pics will

have to do.

Side note: This post is more geared towards those who've never taken a fan apart.

For most other people it will probably be rather boring and trivial.

(click image for full res)

First, take the inner frame out of the outer one. I have found it is easiest to do this

by pressing on the inner frame between the two lugs in each corner instead of the

lugs directly.

(click image for full res)

Next, take off the sticker on the back. I use some petroleum ether to get rid of the

sticky residue (very annoying stuff).

(click image for full res)

Then take out the gasket which covers the bearing's back side. It's not extremely

delicate, but if you're not careful you can damage it nonetheless. Also, you can see

my most important tool for this process: A dental tool. :D

(click image for full res)

And here comes the part which is actually tricky. The rotor is held in place by a small

washer which sits in a groove on the rotor's axis. The washer has a slit in it.

I found the easiest way to get this washer out of that groove to be this:

  • Take two of those dental tools from above.
  • Press down on the washer with one of them and make sure it doesn't rotate

    anymore (remember: this is a bearing made for rotation, so it moves rather

    easily and is well lubricated, i.e. slippery).

  • Press the tip of the second dental tool into the slit of the washer and twist

    one of the ends of the washer upwards (this usually takes me several tries since

    I often slip). The washer is very flexible, so don't worry too much about breaking

    it. Be careful, but not afraid.

  • Once the washer is nicely twisted and one of its ends pointing out of the

    bearing, get the second dental tool under the washer and pop it out.

  • That's it, you can now slide the rotor out on the other side. :)
The washer is the white thing inside the red circle.

(click image for full res)

The red arrow is pointing towards the washer's slit into which you need to get the

tool.

(click image for full res)

And here we have the bearing with the rotor removed. The red ring is actually an O-ring

resting on top of another washer. Both of these are actually loose and are only held in

place because the lubricant makes them a bit sticky (you will have noticed this when

taking out the washer in the above step). There is also one of these O-rings on the

rotor axis itself. You can take them out if you want, but I left them in.

(click image for full res)

The disassembled rotor and inner frame:

(click image for full res)

(click image for full res)

And my disassembled army of fans (you know, the other one :D ):

(click image for full res)

I don't think you necessarily need dental tools to do this, but I had them anyway,

tried them out and found them to work very well for this. If you want to buy some,

you can get them on eBay for a few bucks per set.

I'm currently painting the fans and should have an update on that some time over

the weekend.

That's it for today. Thanks for stopping by,

-aw

 

Those fans. Anf I realize now my tool array needs a dental scraper :P


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Those fans. Anf I realize now my tool array needs a dental scraper :P

Hehe, thanks! :)

Small request: Could you edit your post so that not all my images are quoted? Otherwise

I get double the bandwidth usage. That would be super nice! Side note: putting them

into spoilers still loads them twice, only editing them out of the post really removes

them. Thank you!

Also: Yes, those dental tools are really handy in many situations (I originally

bought a set because I have a wire retainer in my lower jaw which always has plaque

buildups around it which aren't really removable with anything else. Eventually I realized

that I could use the spare tools from the set for other things...).

EDIT:

I have made you a bacon taco to celebrate this amazing rig.

 

[...munchies...]

I'll take that! :)


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gotta love big cases! buying the fans alone requires a second mortgage. I would imagine that's not even all of them. I'll be close to 20 on mine, give or take. Nice instructions, there are some you tubes if people want to see more. A bit of advice I learned the hard way! If you plan to paint your fans make sure that they can be disassembled. Some don't and you will be in for a masking nightmare.

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Yeah, fans are a bit like fittings in that regard: Usually not too expensive on

their own, but once you actually buy as many as you need they can become a rather

substantial expenditure.

I only have one more fan though (the 140 mm prototype from earlier). Since I'm not

running any of the radiators in push/pull it's just fans for three quad rads. I would

have liked to have positive air pressure inside the main compartment, but every

version I've come up with of accomplishing that has some aspects I dislike too much

to actually implement it.

I got very lucky when it comes to disassembling the fans since I didn't originally

check if they could be completely disassembled. Although it would have made my life

a lot easier if the stator PCB could be dismounted from the inner frame. It was a

bloody bitch to mask that (about three hours total). But yeah, some fans can't be

taken apart at all (I think Noctuas belong to that group? Not sure).

Then again, I've had the brilliant idea that I would paint the inner frame both on

its front and back side. You know, because the back side will not be visible ever

again once it's mounted, but I'll know that it's painted, which is what matters. :lol:


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Love the fans.


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For most other people it will probably be rather boring and trivial.

First, take the inner frame out of the outer one.

I know how to take fans apart, but that's the first time I've seen a fan with an "inner" and an "outer" frame.

 

  1. Although it would have made my life a lot easier if the stator PCB could be dismounted from the inner frame.
  2. But yeah, some fans can't be taken apart at all (I think Noctuas belong to that group? Not sure).
  3.  but I'll know that it's painted, which is what matters.
  1. In practically every fan, the stator is glued to the frame ;)
  2. If you're thinking in terms of inner and outer frame, I don't think you'll see many fans that you can take apart like this. Other than that, Noctuas can be taken apart (fan blade can be separated from the body)
  3. Words of a perfectionist. I like it :)
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Love the fans.

 

Thanks!

 

I know how to take fans apart, but that's the first time I've seen a fan with an "inner" and an "outer" frame.

Yeah, I don't know of any other than the Spectre Pros which are built like this,

at least not so that you can disassemble them.

 

  • In practically every fan, the stator is glued to the frame ;)
  • If you're thinking in terms of inner and outer frame, I don't think you'll see many fans that you can take apart like this. Other than that, Noctuas can be taken apart (fan blade can be separated from the body)
  • Words of a perfectionist. I like it :)
  • Yeah, I got that impression. I tried to force it on one fan to see

    if maybe it's just pressed on, but there was absolutely no give in that

    connection.

  • Nah, I primarily meant that you can take the rotor out of the fan, not

    necessarily a dual frame construction. Good to know about the Noctuas.

  • Hehe. :D
Now, if you excuse me, there is a clear coat waiting to be applied.

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Yeah, I got that impression. I tried to force it on one fan to see

if maybe it's just pressed on, but there was absolutely no give in that

connection.

You could try to use a heat gun to loosen up the glue, but you might end up damaging the motor controller on the PCB that way.

 

Also, on a totally unrelated note: is there a specific reason why you put linebreaks in your text?

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Great log! I love the work shop. Fan looks amazing :)

Thank you! The work shop has been great, and I'm currently waiting for the paint

to dry on the fans.

 

You could try to use a heat gun to loosen up the glue, but you might end up damaging the motor controller on the PCB that way.

Yeah, I suppose a way could be found with enough time. But by now I've masked it off

anyway, so it's no longer a real issue. ;)

 

Also, on a totally unrelated note: is there a specific reason why you put linebreaks in your text?

A habit from programming. I tend to stick to the 80 chars per line rule when I code,

and I just sort of adapted similar behavior when writing forum posts (yes, I know

I'm most likely not hitting 80 chars here ;)). Aside from pure habit, I prefer reading

shorter lines of text (less strain on the eyes as I've read when researching typography).

Also, I just think it looks better (yes, seriously, the physical arrangement of text

in an internet forum post is something I pay attention to, but as you've said I have

a perfectionist streak :lol: ).

If I could, I would write all my posts in Vim and justify them with par. The blocks of

text you get with that look beautiful, but of course it uses multiple space chars between

some words to get it all aligned, which browsers don't parse as such, so it doesn't translate

into a usable result on the forum. :(

Of course I'm aware of the drawbacks, mainly that in our modern age of responsive web

design this renders any auto-formatting by the forum completely useless once the screen

becomes too narrow. Although my lines should be short enough for that not to be too much

of a problem. It certainly shouldn't be a problem on anything other than a cellphone with

a low-res screen. And yes, I'm also aware that this debate has been raging for decades

(still is, and will probably continue into eternity).

You're the first person to actually ask me about this though. But yeah, I'm a bit OCD

when it comes to text formatting, and I'm proud of that. :D

EDIT:

This is what I would want (edited this post in Vim with the help of par). Isn't it

beautiful? :wub:

2013-09-21--23-50-04--screenshot.png

PS: Yeah, I'm that kind of person :lol:

EDIT 2:

@MG2R: I completely missed that you got BOTW! Congrats man, that is one well deserved

award if I may say so. :)


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Thank you! The work shop has been great, and I'm currently waiting for the paintto dry on the fans. Yeah, I suppose a way could be found with enough time. But by now I've masked it offanyway, so it's no longer a real issue. ;) A habit from programming. I tend to stick to the 80 chars per line rule when I code,and I just sort of adapted similar behavior when writing forum posts (yes, I knowI'm most likely not hitting 80 chars here ;)). Aside from pure habit, I prefer readingshorter lines of text (less strain on the eyes as I've read when researching typography).Also, I just think it looks better (yes, seriously, the physical arrangement of textin an internet forum post is something I pay attention to, but as you've said I havea perfectionist streak :lol: ).If I could, I would write all my posts in Vim and justify them with par. The blocks oftext you get with that look beautiful, but of course it uses multiple space chars betweensome words to get it all aligned, which browsers don't parse as such, so it doesn't translateinto a usable result on the forum. :(Of course I'm aware of the drawbacks, mainly that in our modern age of responsive webdesign this renders any auto-formatting by the forum completely useless once the screenbecomes too narrow. Although my lines should be short enough for that not to be too muchof a problem. It certainly shouldn't be a problem on anything other than a cellphone witha low-res screen. And yes, I'm also aware that this debate has been raging for decades(still is, and will probably continue into eternity).You're the first person to actually ask me about this though. But yeah, I'm a bit OCDwhen it comes to text formatting, and I'm proud of that. :DEDIT:This is what I would want (edited this post in Vim with the help of par). Isn't itbeautiful? :wub:2013-09-21--23-50-04--screenshot.pngPS: Yeah, I'm that kind of person :lol:

I'm starting to like you more and more haha. I always pay attention to my sentence spacing and the blocks of text I create, but you just take it to a whole new level... Lol

anyway I'm looking forward to seeing more of this build and the only reason I'm not (yet) following is that otherwise my notifications would be flooded haha. No need to be following anyway as this will be on the first page of build logs for a while :P

Ps I feel so honoured that you liked my build log post :o


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I'm starting to like you more and more haha. I always pay attention to my sentence spacing and the blocks of text I create, but you just take it to a whole new level... Lol

anyway I'm looking forward to seeing more of this build and the only reason I'm not (yet) following is that otherwise my notifications would be flooded haha. No need to be following anyway as this will be on the first page of build logs for a while :P

Haha, thanks! Hard line breaks do have their downsides, but I've made my choice. ;)

I've actually reached 100 subscribers today, but deducting myself I'm still at 99,

so if one more person subscribes I will have the full 100! :)

Ps I feel so honoured that you liked my build log post :o

Well, what can I say? It was a good post IMO! :D


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Can we have a photo of the build as of now? We are hungry!!!


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Can we have a photo of the build as of now? We are hungry!!!

What, a screenshot of some beautifully formatted text was not enough?! :lol:

Ah well... it's not really much of a looker at the moment. Very messy and mostly

disassembled, but since you're asking so nicely:

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aw--helios--2013-09-22--01--a-tad-messy.

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Still looks great! Glad to see you make progress again


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What, a screenshot of some beautifully formatted text was not enough?! :lol:

Ah well... it's not really much of a looker at the moment. Very messy and mostly

disassembled, but since you're asking so nicely:

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Sexy Image

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sexxy image

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Still looks great! Glad to see you make progress again

 

Thanks mate, it's good to be building again. :)

 

This is soo epic!

 

Thanks, one does what one can (and sometimes a bit more :D ).

 

I AM IN LOVE

Well, OK. If that gets you this excited, I will PM you before putting up

the shots of the finished rig so you can take a few chill pills. Wouldn't want

you to have a seizure from excitement. :lol:

Seriously though, thanks. The awesome support means a lot. :wub:

PS: Also thank you for no longer quoting all images from a post. It's so nice when

people listen to one's requests.


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Thanks mate, it's good to be building again. :)

 

 

Thanks, one does what one can (and sometimes a bit more :D ).

 

Well, OK. If that gets you this excited, I will PM you before putting up

the shots of the finished rig so you can take a few chill pills. Wouldn't want

you to have a seizure from excitement. :lol:

Seriously though, thanks. The awesome support means a lot. :wub:

PS: Also thank you for no longer quoting all images from a post. It's so nice when

people listen to one's requests.

I only had 5 seziures as of now!!!!

 

that would be nice though!!!


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PS: Yeah, I'm that kind of person :lol:

We should have a beer some time ;)

 

I'm not a big fan of the whole par-business, though. I can't stand double spaces! But vim support on this forum would be a nice addition. Aslo, Courier as standard font would be just lovely :D

 

EDIT 2:

I completely missed that you got BOTW! Congrats man, that is one well deserved

award if I may say so. :)

Thanks! If you read through the latest comments, you'll see I was quite surprised about getting it. It was kind of weird seeing my build mentioned on the WAN show :P

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