2080ti worth it currently?

[ch3w2oy]

28 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

 

Hardly, I am not ignoring anything.

You're ignoring a lot, actually, which is why you will never be able to buy a Ferarri..

 

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I got the RTX 2080 Ti because it's MUCH faster than the GTX 1080Ti and I like to play with everything maxed out at 1440P. 

What games would that be? I play at 1440p and 4K and don't have much to complain about.. But I'm not a professional CSGO player, soo...

 

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The 2060 isn't really a 1440P card, it's a 1080P card so people are also getting the 1660Ti's and the AMD cards.

The 2060 can handle 1440p just fine.. Not everyone need Ultra settings (which doesn't do much, BTW).. The 2070 isn't worth the premium over the 2060.. AMD cards are selling just fine.. I mean, the Vega 64 Nitro+ just keeps getting more and more reviews on Newegg.. There's no reason to buy Nvidia right now, IMO (in US). Unless you need a 2080 ti, which I am NOT against, don't confuse this.

 

You say AND AMD cards like it's for the low end.. What's the VII? I see more and more people buying them EVERY day over the 2080, soo.. ya, lol.. The VII, IMO, is better than the 2080 in almost every regard other than tracing rays lol.. And I had a 2080..

 

Not to mention the Vega 64 nearly competes with the 2070 and is way cheaper.. And has a higher chance of improving in performance as well as drivers are rolled out.. Lets see the 2070 do that in a few years, LOL.

 

36 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

By all means though, keep being nvidia's personal whale/cash cow, they'll care that much more for you

All I can say is, they love it!! They fucking love giving their money away.. Which makes me think it wasn't theirs in the first place..

 

I mean, if I bought a 2080 ti, I guess I would have to defend my actions somehow as well.. 

[Ankerson]

18 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

You're ignoring a lot, actually, which is why you will never be able to buy a Ferarri..

 

 

 

Hardly, I just didn't want that type of job that pays that much.

 

Never liked the Corporate type atmosphere etc, turned down those type jobs every time.

 

Family stuff kept me from doing other things etc so by the time I was actually freed up some I was too old for it to be worth it.

 

As they say life happens.

 

As for the Ferrari I would never buy one anyway even if I was a Billionaire, really I wouldn't, I think of cars as basic transportation.

 

I don't have any use for one, a car is to get you from point A to Point B and my SUV and truck do that just fine.

 

Sitting at a stop light is the same no matter what car you are driving, and then the next stop light and the one after that etc.

 

 

[xg32]

1 minute ago, ch3w2oy said:

 

I mean, if I bought a 2080 ti, I guess I would have to defend my actions somehow as well.. 

it's the fastest single card, but other than that, terrible value, and not enough improvement over last gen (though i bought mine for 1099 on a pre-order pricing mistake), i still think DXR is a gimmick that took away at least some of the core power of the gpu (i'm playing most games on 4k/90 on medium, high would be nice). The only solid implementation of DXR is metro after the patches (but it does look damn good 4k/75fps with DLSS on, no longer blurry af)

 

Overall the only defense i can come up with is, it's the fastest single card, which isn't much.

[Ankerson]

Just now, xg32 said:

 

 

Overall the only defense i can come up with is, it's the fastest single card, which isn't much.

 

That is really all that needs to be said and is reason enough.

[ch3w2oy]

15 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

 

Hardly, I just didn't want that type of job that pays that much.

 

Never liked the Corporate type atmosphere etc, turned down those type jobs every time.

 

Family stuff kept me from doing other things etc so by the time I was actually freed up some I was too old for it to be worth it.

 

As they say life happens.

 

 

You don't need to explain anything to me.  I simply meant it's the mindset.. There's a shit load of rich people that got "rich" by not buying into stupid shit.. And you don't need a corporate job to be rich.. 

 

14 minutes ago, xg32 said:

it's the fastest single card, but other than that, terrible value, and not enough improvement over last gen (though i bought mine for 1099 on a pre-order pricing mistake), i still think DXR is a gimmick that took away at least some of the core power of the gpu (i'm playing most games on 4k/90 on medium, high would be nice). The only solid implementation of DXR is metro after the patches (but it does look damn good 4k/75fps with DLSS on, no longer blurry af)

 

Overall the only defense i can come up with is, it's the fastest single card, which isn't much.

That's the best excuse anyone can have. And I totally agree.. I'll also admit I considered buying one, and still may.. It's the fact that someone could think it's mostly broke people complaining that is the issue.. I guarantee (and would put money on it), that it's not the case..

 

If MONEY was an issue, everyone would just save up, like they always do.. Because not many people just buy a brand new computer anytime they feel like it.. Like OMG I have to save for an extra month for a 2080 ti.. I doubt money is the problem here.. I mean come on.. Accepting this pricing is just begging (FUCKING BEGGING) for higher prices next gen..

 

12 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

 

That is really all that needs to be said and is reason enough.

Just don't blame people being biased on income.. It's stupid.. Nvidias pricing is STUPID! Yes it's the best, it's still STUPID! Yes I might buy one, It's STILL STUPID!

 

Make sense?

 

 

 

I don't have a problem with the 2080 TI!!!!!!

[Ankerson]

13 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

 

 

Just don't blame people being biased on income.. It's stupid.. Nvidias pricing is STUPID! Yes it's the best, it's still STUPID! Yes I might buy one, It's STILL STUPID!

 

Make sense?

 

If one wants the best or the fastest of anything really there is a price tag attached to it.

 

Either they pay for it and have it or they don't and get something else.

 

It really is that simple, it's not complicated at all.

 

People make things more complicated than they really need to be.

[JoostinOnline]

10 hours ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

A lot of people don't understand that the 2080Ti is a Titan class card in terms of performance and price, not a consumer class one.

 

2080 makes much more sense.

It's not. That was speculated when it first released because of the price hike, but it turned out to be the 1080 Ti successor. The Titan line still exists on its own.

 

To answer the OP though, worth is relative. For most people it's a waste of money. There's no competition in the higher market so price to performance ratio is pretty low.

 

I personally prefer to get older high end hardware. I'm running a 980 Ti.

[ch3w2oy]

Just now, Ankerson said:

 

If one wants the best or the fastest of anything really there is a price tag attached to it.

 

Either they pay for it and have it or they don't and get something else.

 

It really is that simple, it's not complicated at all.

That's not what started this. You said "a lot of people complain because they can't afford it."

 

I don't agree with that..

 

Otherwise, I agree with everything you said..

 

And again, I'm not against the 2080 ti or people paying a premium for it..

[Ankerson]

5 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

That's not what started this. You said "a lot of people complain because they can't afford it."

 

I don't agree with that..

 

Otherwise, I agree with everything you said..

 

And again, I'm not against the 2080 ti or people paying a premium for it..

 

I have seen a ton of people complaining about them however and then look at what they are actually running. 

 

A lot of them don't have the machine to run the 2080Ti in the 1st place or even close to it.

 

Well you get the point.

 

Also a lot of parroting that goes on, but that is expected.

 

 

[ch3w2oy]

5 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

 

I have seen a ton of people complaining about them however and then look at what they are actually running.

 

Well you get the point.

 

Also a lot of parroting that goes on, but that is expected.

I've seen a lot of people with 1080 tis also complaining (dead serious).. Doesn't mean anything.. 

 

All I'm saying is, yes, broke people going to complain, so is wealthy people.. There's more broke people then there are wealthy so it's hard to judge.. But I guarantee most comments online are idiots trolling..

 

Just like any other time someone wants an expensive computer part, they save.. That's it.. Most people complaining are complaining to complain, not because they're broke, but because they wouldn't buy it ANYWAYYYY... They're just idiots.. that's it.. 

 

It's like follow the leader out here.. "this youtube channel complained about pricing so I will too.."

 

I promise you, it's nothing more than this..

[melete]

1 hour ago, ch3w2oy said:

I've seen a lot of people with 1080 tis also complaining (dead serious).. Doesn't mean anything.. 

 

All I'm saying is, yes, broke people going to complain, so is wealthy people.. There's more broke people then there are wealthy so it's hard to judge.. But I guarantee most comments online are idiots trolling..

 

Just like any other time someone wants an expensive computer part, they save.. That's it.. Most people complaining are complaining to complain, not because they're broke, but because they wouldn't buy it ANYWAYYYY... They're just idiots.. that's it.. 

 

It's like follow the leader out here.. "this youtube channel complained about pricing so I will too.."

 

I promise you, it's nothing more than this..

My problem with these RTX cards isn't even the price, it's the value for your money.

 

They went up significantly in price - 2080 TI was going for $1200+ at launch, while 1080 Ti was $700 ($730 in today's dollars). The raw graphics performance, especially for a card nearly two years newer on a new architecture, didn't justify that large of a price increase. Ray tracing was about as close to dead-on-arrival as could be expected. Still isn't in a great place. And most ray tracing implementations push us to frame rates or resolutions we thought we had abandoned already.

 

If I'm paying more, I'd like to think I am getting more. I'd like to think it isn't just Nvidia flexing its market power because it's so dominant in the graphics space it doesn't feel like it needs to deliver good value any longer.

 

It has nothing to do with wealth. If anything, I'd say that wealthy people got that way by not wasting their money on frivolous purchases of questionable value.

[Ankerson]

4 hours ago, ch3w2oy said:

 

It's like follow the leader out here.. "this youtube channel complained about pricing so I will too.."

 

I promise you, it's nothing more than this..

 

Saw a lot of that too. 

 

I completely ignored all that, I always do, they whine and cry about everything these days, gets worse as time goes on.

 

Bunch of drama queens if you ask me, it's like they think they get more views if they cry and whine. To me that just makes me not even bother watching them at all.

 

One YT channel starts crying then 10 others follow them and start crying too, they are a big joke these days IMO.

 

If I wanted to watch that crap I would turn on Life Time TV or watch a Soap Opera or something with real actors and quality content, not some wannabe who thinks they are a star because they have a YT channel and a video camera. 

 

Waited until the reviews came out on the partner cards by the few reliable reviewers that are out there before I made my choice. I was in no hurry because I was already running a GTX 1080Ti. After the reviews I waited longer for the sales and or deals to start before I actually bought my 2080Ti. Got mine from EVGA directly with the deal. I already knew what model I wanted so I just had to wait a bit.

 

 

 

 

[Spancer]

16 hours ago, jones177 said:

Load up a AAA game and try to get to 144fps. On a lot of games I can't even do it with a 2080 ti.

I don't see that much value in getting to 144fps. Of course the more fps the better, but to be honest in most games just getting above 60 is fine with me. Especially single player games.

[jones177]

2 hours ago, Spancer said:

I don't see that much value in getting to 144fps. Of course the more fps the better, but to be honest in most games just getting above 60 is fine with me. Especially single player games.

I don't either.

 

That is why when I got a 1440p 144hz G-sync monitor last Black friday it was a fail. I prefer 4k 60fps. My Son is loving it thought.

 

It is also easier to run 4k at 60hz than it is to run 1440p at 144hz on single player games. Mainly because I don't need lots of anti analysing unless I am doing screenshots. Heavy anti analysing can eat up frame rate almost as much as ray tracing does.

 

When I used a GTX 980 ti and played at 1440p 60hz it was not a bad place to be. 4k & 1600 21:9 is mainly for my modded games and sims that use 4k textures. Some of the details are lost at 1440p. 

[Zberg]

18 hours ago, xg32 said:

Theres a major difference in complaining about a product being out of budget and it being a bad product, Turing is both out of range and bad for alot of people, but those that complain solely because they can't afford it....sigh.

 

Ya, it truly is a joke how much they are price gouging at the top end.  This recent generation was an unprecedented imbalance in terms of performance gain to cost increase.  It was pretty standard for a while to get 20-30% performance increase for a similar price that the last gen equiv sold for.  The massive price increase is bananas.  Which is why I am overjoyed AMD is trying to make a showing (they certainly are in the CPU dept!, hopefully they keep up the pressure on the high end GPUs now that VII is out).  We need the competition.

 

But ya, more reason for people to cheer on AMD rather than cry about Nvidia.  If you can afford it (2080ti), itll get you the best performance on the market and it's great.  Until AMD can offer a comparable product and some pressure to bring prices down, they will keep using the market to their advantage.