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Bigger SSD is better than SDD & HDD?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I noticed that a lot of builders buy an SSD & HDD together instead of buying a bigger SDD. Besides prices, are there any pros and cons to this? (Any difference with an M.2 vs SATA?)


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M.2 vs SATA is not perceivable in regular use, only in large file transfers, so don’t worry about that. HDDs are cheaper than SSDs so have a fast SSD as a boot drive and a HDD as a storage drive for larger files

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7 minutes ago, Mr.Muffins said:

M.2 vs SATA?

Small nitpick, M.2 is a form factor and there are SATA M.2 drives (NVMe is the faster kind)

 

Builders advocate for a hard drive because of how much space you get for cheap. If you need a terabyte of fast storage, a hard drive won't cut it, but for the average gamer, it works just fine.


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5 minutes ago, Mr.Muffins said:

I noticed that a lot of builders buy an SSD & HDD together instead of buying a bigger SDD. Besides prices, are there any pros and cons to this? (Any difference with an M.2 vs SATA?)

For the price of one 1 TB SSD, 3 x 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD can be bought. So 1 TB vs 3 TB. I personally prefer the 2nd option.😀

If the price won't matter u, one can buy SSD.


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9 minutes ago, Mr.Muffins said:

(Any difference with an M.2 vs SATA?)

In the interest of possibly helping you avoid confusion in the future, I'd like to point out that M.2 is the connector/form-factor, not the communication-protocol: you can have both NVME and SATA SSDs in an M.2 form-factor.


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2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Small nitpick, M.2 is a form factor and there are SATA M.2 drives (NVMe is the faster kind)

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I see, so there isn't much of a difference between between M.2 and SATA's then. But if I'm able to buy a bigger SSD, is it worth it?

 

I was just wondering, if HDDs become obsolete in a near future since SSDs are becoming cheaper.

 

Edit: Ninjaed Twice xD


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hard drives have a much longer lifespan

a smaller SSD combined with a conventional drive lasts longer than a large (500GB+) SSD alone because of rw operations

 

m.2 and SATA are just form factors, what matters are the controller and chips on the drive, 2.5" SATA drives are larger so the heat dissipation is better because of the metallic casing on them


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Just now, Mr.Muffins said:

But if I'm able to buy a bigger SSD, is it worth it?

Usually yes, it's a nice luxury.

 

1 minute ago, Mr.Muffins said:

I was just wondering, if HDDs become obsolete in a near future since SSDs are becoming cheaper

I hope so, hard drives are so inefficient in their operation and I already advocate that every PC has an SSD.


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11 minutes ago, Mr.Muffins said:

I noticed that a lot of builders buy an SSD & HDD together instead of buying a bigger SDD. Besides prices, are there any pros and cons to this? (Any difference with an M.2 vs SATA?)

They do it for price especially when you need more than 1TB,

 

M.2 is a connector, You have SATA M.2. There is no benefit from a M.2 SATA drive and a regular SATA drive.

If you mean NVMe, then yes NVMe is much faster than SATA even on small file transfer speeds.

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Just now, Mr.Muffins said:

I see, so there isn't much of a difference between between M.2 and SATA's then. But if I'm able to buy a bigger SSD, is it worth it?

 

I was just wondering, if HDDs become obsolete in a near future since SSDs are becoming cheaper.

I doubt HDDs will become completely obsolete for at least 5-10 years, simply because HDDs pack so much more storage-space. They're good for storing all sorts of stuff that doesn't need the kinds of speeds that SSDs offer, like e.g. they're perfect for storing movie-collections, porn, music-collections, less-often-played games and so on. If you don't have huge collections of such stuff, however, you don't necessarily benefit from buying an HDD at all and could just get a large enough SSD to contain all your stuff.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Wow, thanks guys, fast replies everywhere. Yeah I kind of understand that it does have a lot of storage for keeping our old files.

 

I wonder what we come up with next. I mean, before I was born it was floppy discs and cassettes, I feel like we hit a rock since we've stood with HDDs & SSDs for a while.

 

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16 minutes ago, Mr.Muffins said:

I feel like we hit a rock since we've stood with HDDs & SSDs for a while.

Eh, if you don't follow storage-tech news, it's easy to just see the general form-factor and think it's all stagnated, but, in reality, there is constantly a shitton of stuff changing inside them. For SSDs, for example, it was a major technological advancement, when they figured out a way of reliably stacking NAND-cells on top of each other, and for HDDs, there's Seagate's upcoming HAMR-tech which has a potential of making HDDs again a shitton bigger capacity-wise.


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@WereCatf I understand that they have made bigger achievements with HDDs and SSDs. Sorry if I didn't make sense, but what I was trying to say is like a massive breakthrough. For example: cash to digital currency, fire to electricity, horses to cars, etc. Something completely different than just an advancement from an already made product.

 

Different topic than what I had in mind, but thanks for the tech news, I didn't know about those.

 

Edit: I just remembered about the quantum computer... I guess we'll have quantum storage for that then 😂


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Hi

 

I did some tests on this.

 

The test was loading Photoshop and then 300mb image file off the SSD or drive.

I did the test because I was using 10,000rpm hard drives at the time and I wanted to know if a small SSD/large HD setup was faster. This is not loading Windows but fetching data.

It wasn't. The 10,000rpm HD was twice as fast. I unplugged the hard drive and the SSD won. 

I skipper the small SSD setup and went with a 1tb SSD. This year I will be upgrading to 2tb SSDs.  

 

I mod games and my Skyrim game has pauses when it is on a 7200rpm hard drive and my Fallout 4 game is unplayable on any HD. The last time I tested this was on a WD 5tb Black. 

 

I will use HDs for remote storage but that is about it.  


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