Sending coffee into the sky

[MaratM]

Some people have managed to run Coffee lake CPU on a Skylake (z170) mobo.

according to instructions bios has to be moded and loaded directly onto the BIOS chip. after that the CPU socket has to be moded - some contacts isolated and some connected. and it suppose to run coffee lake cpu on 100 series board

I have access to all the gear to change the bios

Got a brand new z170 board

16 gb of DDR4 ram and i7 8700k

the thing is I'm kind of affraid of doing it

the possible outcome is:

bricked mobo

dead CPU

or it might work fine 

Has anyone done it and does it actually work?

[3 Lions]

It just won't boot. 

[Fasauceome]

7 minutes ago, MaratM said:

I have access to all the gear to change the bios

Got a brand new z170 board

16 gb of DDR4 ram and i7 8700k

I'm fairly certain a 7th or 6th gen CPU is needed to change the BIOS, not an 8th gen.

[MaratM]

2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

I'm fairly certain a 7th or 6th gen CPU is needed to change the BIOS, not an 8th gen.

is it good enough?

BIOS has to be changed via programmer

[myselfolli]

I wouldn't do it. Get a supported mobo and you're off to the races

[Princess Luna]

Forcing Coffee Lake to run on a Z170 board is more of a hobby thing than a practical solution to save money, nobody truly knows the long term consequences for doing it, for all we know these chips could potentially break much sooner.

 

There's compatibility because the base technology is the same but there's indeed changes each generation that must be taken into account.

[MaratM]

28 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Forcing Coffee Lake to run on a Z170 board is more of a hobby thing than a practical solution to save money, nobody truly knows the long term consequences for doing it, for all we know these chips could potentially break much sooner.

 

There's compatibility because the base technology is the same but there's indeed changes each generation that must be taken into account.

the only thing I can think of is the VRM'm capability to deliver enough power to the CPU without frying themself, and it is true if low end board with 4 fases is used and the user pushed OC to 5 gHz, but if the board is a highend board such as Asus Maximus viii or EVGA classified and so on it will not be a problem.

[MaratM]

So far so good

[MaratM]

It is all working

modded cpu

bios flashing tool

uefi with 8700k detected

all is working

[MaratM]

it is also possible to run i9 9900k on z170 with all 16 threads enabled OC'd at 5gHz

 

 

[Benjeh]

Lol I'm impressed, but you did all that, when it would of just been easier to sell the 170 board and get one to suit lmao. Work smarter, not harder.

[MaratM]

59 minutes ago, Benjeh said:

Lol I'm impressed, but you did all that, when it would of just been easier to sell the 170 board and get one to suit lmao. Work smarter, not harder.

I've got Maximus VIII Hero for less than a $100 brand new in the box, the "same" Maximus X-XI is more than $300 including delivery and VAT. I think saving more than $200 is a fair play especially if you get same performance 

[Dreadnought]

2 hours ago, MaratM said:

I've got Maximus VIII Hero for less than a $100 brand new in the box, the "same" Maximus X-XI is more than $300 including delivery and VAT. I think saving more than $200 is a fair play especially if you get same performance 

Maximus VIII Hero for less than $100 BNIB. WHAT

[MaratM]

1 minute ago, Dreadnought IX said:

Maximus VIII Hero for less than $100 BNIB. WHAT

Old stock clearence sale https://www.regard.ru/catalog/tovar190633.htm the exchange rate is around 65 rubles for 1USD

[Dreadnought]

1 minute ago, MaratM said:

Old stock clearence sale https://www.regard.ru/catalog/tovar190633.htm the exchange rate is around 65 rubles for 1USD

Is it still on stock? Too lazy to translate hehe

[MaratM]

1 minute ago, Dreadnought IX said:

Is it still on stock? Too lazy to translate hehe

yes in stock ready for delivery))) no international delivery(((

[Dreadnought]

4 hours ago, MaratM said:

yes in stock ready for delivery))) no international delivery(((

Is that 5630 Russian Ruble? If so, that should be around €77/$87. Is there a way to ship it to Indonesia? I'm in Indonesia atm.

[MaratM]

1 hour ago, Dreadnought IX said:

Is that 5630 Russian Ruble? If so, that should be around €77/$87. Is there a way to ship it to Indonesia? I'm in Indonesia atm.

You can try to contact the shop and ask them if they are willing to ship it internationally,

according to russian post website shipment to indonesia costs around $50

[PianoPlayer88Key]

I'm actually interested in doing something like this for my Clevo laptop.  (It's Z170, currently with an i7-6700K.) It'll be a challenge, though, as I think the BIOS chip is likely soldered, and the maker hasn't even published an updated BIOS for Kaby Lake or Spectre, among other things.

 

I'm planning to wait until Intel hopefully releases 10nm CPUs on LGA1151 at least.  When the first post-LGA1151 CPUs come out, I hope to get one from the final LGA1151 generation around the following Black Friday and make that work, minimum being 8 cores with HT or 12-14 cores without. (Might the latter be possible on 10nm?)

 

If Coffee Lake Refresh is the last one, I won't be getting the i9-9900K or 9900KF.  Instead, I'd go for either the 9900F or 9900T.  My next planned laptop upgrade / new laptop would likely be when DDR6 or DDR7 is released.

 

With my 6700K, I pretty much never run it over about 115 watts or so, and 99.9% of the time it's capped I think at about 90 watts.  BTW can you run all cores on non-K CPUs at the single-core turbo spec?

[MaratM]

1 hour ago, PianoPlayer88Key said:

I'm actually interested in doing something like this for my Clevo laptop.  (It's Z170, currently with an i7-6700K.) It'll be a challenge, though, as I think the BIOS chip is likely soldered, and the maker hasn't even published an updated BIOS for Kaby Lake or Spectre, among other things.

 

I'm planning to wait until Intel hopefully releases 10nm CPUs on LGA1151 at least.  When the first post-LGA1151 CPUs come out, I hope to get one from the final LGA1151 generation around the following Black Friday and make that work, minimum being 8 cores with HT or 12-14 cores without. (Might the latter be possible on 10nm?)

 

If Coffee Lake Refresh is the last one, I won't be getting the i9-9900K or 9900KF.  Instead, I'd go for either the 9900F or 9900T.  My next planned laptop upgrade / new laptop would likely be when DDR6 or DDR7 is released.

 

With my 6700K, I pretty much never run it over about 115 watts or so, and 99.9% of the time it's capped I think at about 90 watts.  BTW can you run all cores on non-K CPUs at the single-core turbo spec?

Is that a laptop with standart lga1151 socket?

it will be possible to run coffee lake cpu on it, but not easy al all the cpu mod (contact isolating) is the simplest on asus and asrock, on msi it is is a bit different and in gigabyte it is like a quoter of the socket has to be isolated. If the bios chip is soldered it is probably easier to use a clump connector.

i never had a non k cpu but if asus multi-core enchantment works the same on non k cpu’s as on K cpus it will probably boost all cores to its max stock frequency.

the bios mod is very simple for mainstream boards (asus, asrock, gigabyte and msi) but to mod something like a laptop is a bit tricky the bios has to have support for both skylake and kabylake cpu’s

on top of that there is vrm limitations on laptops. 8700k consumes up to 200w then oc’d but if you undervolt and downclock you might get an 8 core cpu working. But personally i think it does not worth the effort. I have a sony vaio Z-series first gen i5 laptop as my dayly for around 10 years and it is still good enough for dayly use (ms office, simple cad work, internet, not gaming exept built in windows games)

[MaratM]

So finally it is all assembled and running

I’ve managed to get stable 5gHz on my 8700k at 1,34 volts

the cpu is delided with LM applied and it is also under water

[kidroc666]

nice bro!!