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So recently my CM Storm Rapid died. Decided to harvest the switches for the time being to clean it off. Now I have spare parts lying around for a project.

 

What PCBs would be compatible with the CM Storm Rapid (plate-wise and case-wise)? I plan on reviving the keyboard as I loved typing on it. 

Also, what other things would I need to get this project going?

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Ahem, until I learn...

@Charger, @TheProfosist

The reference was hard to get at first, but I see what you mean. I'm still relatively new here :(

 

I also don't know whether the Phantom TKL pcb is going to fit inside my CM case, much less the pcb layout coinciding with the CM plate.

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look it up, there are some custom pcb creators. they can create a pcb for your needs and size.

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look it up, there are some custom pcb creators. they can create a pcb for your needs and size.

a custom pcb will cost a lot if there isnt a pcb that fits hand wiring it would cost like $30, a pre made pcb $60-100 a one off custom pcb would be like $200
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I think @TheProfosist may have a phantom pcb he is looking to sell so maybe you should pm him about this. He has made a good number of phantoms as well so if nothing else he is rather knowledgeable about them

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The reference was hard to get at first, but I see what you mean. I'm still relatively new here :(

 

I also don't know whether the Phantom TKL pcb is going to fit inside my CM case, much less the pcb layout coinciding with the CM plate.

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Good luck with the keyboard but I just had to say something about your username. I LOVE IT SO MUCH! I laughed so hard

It's actually fun to do. A little shaky at first but very fun to whip around and shoot

 

Also just messaged @TheProfosist. Hoping some feedback would be arriving soon.

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I think @TheProfosist may have a phantom pcb he is looking to sell so maybe you should pm him about this. He has made a good number of phantoms as well so if nothing else he is rather knowledgeable about them

Yep i do and I am!

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These guys have a lot of stuff if you plan on doing a custom build http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/

Ive heard good and bad things about GON the on thing I do know is that his full boards are overpriced for what they are.

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Ive heard good and bad things about GON the on thing I do know is that his full boards are overpriced for what they are.

The thing is, will the Nerd TKL PCB be compatible with the Cooler Master platemount? Because this seems like an elegant solution.

 

EDIT: The mounting holes for the case will obv not be there, I only plan on adding a bare backplate to the back of the PCB when it is finished. The KB case itself is battered beyond belief, and idk what cases support CM's plates either.

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Bumping again.

 

I decided I'd do it the hard way as shipping a PCB is a hassle in Canada. Tips on how to hardwire and solder the switches directly to the microcontroller is greatly appreciated.

 

 

Also my downtown store (acssesible by transit) sells Teensy 3.1 controllers + all other parts I need -> Idk if controller is enough for a 1000 Hz poll rate. I'm also considering whether or not Arduino-based solutions are feasible, so any feedback is helpful.

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Bumping again.

 

I decided I'd do it the hard way as shipping a PCB is a hassle in Canada. Tips on how to hardwire and solder the switches directly to the microcontroller is greatly appreciated.

 

 

Also my downtown store (acssesible by transit) sells Teensy 3.1 controllers + all other parts I need -> Idk if controller is enough for a 1000 Hz poll rate. I'm also considering whether or not Arduino-based solutions are feasible, so any feedback is helpful.

your going to want a teensy 2.0 for keyboard purposes.

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Bumping again.

 

I decided I'd do it the hard way as shipping a PCB is a hassle in Canada. Tips on how to hardwire and solder the switches directly to the microcontroller is greatly appreciated.

 

 

Also my downtown store (acssesible by transit) sells Teensy 3.1 controllers + all other parts I need -> Idk if controller is enough for a 1000 Hz poll rate. I'm also considering whether or not Arduino-based solutions are feasible, so any feedback is helpful.

definitely teensy 2.0 that you want.

I will quote something i posted that should be useful

I wonder how much I should really go into this since I don't know where people are likely to start getting into this kind of thing. I think I will keep it to the simple side to start with mainly links but will help fill in things later if you guys want me to and probably just do my own write ups on some of it.

First I guess I should start with pointing people to where more help can be found about this kind of thing and I will skip over salvaging parts for now and may got into that later with more links and if I cant find links I will do a write up myself on some stuff. To do that I may have to re-solder switches into the pcb I just removed them from to take photos I didn't think many people would want to see lol.

There are 2 forums that have a rather helpful community for building custom keyboards. The sites are Geekhack.org and Deskthority.net these links will direct you to the area of their forums where people work on custom keyboards and other projects in case you want to look around a bit.

Now assuming you are trying to make your own fully custom board a decent place to start designing the layout of the board as well as the intended key placement is keyboard-layout-editor.com. It is a relatively simple tool that allows you to move switches and change the side until you get a layout you like. There are stranded presets which as probably best to start with if you mess with this tool.

Now the reason I pointed you to keyboard-layout-editor.com is that recently someone on Geekhack has been making a tool that will take the raw data from that site and create a cad drawing of the plate for the keyboard you have drawn up so that you can have it laser cut or water jet out of metal or acrylic. This can be a costly process which is why I have been salvaging parts when I can rather then having things made for me. Here is a link to a thread on geekhack for Swill's plate building tool as well as a direct link to his site http://builder.swillkb.com.

Ok so for hand wiring switches I will point you to this tutorial Hard Wiring How To which is on the geekhack wiki which also has some other keyboard related information.

Now the next part you will need a micro controller the most common used is the Teensy 2.0 which can be bought from the manufactuer pjrc.com or a place like adafruit.com. There are alternatives that can be used and are cheaper but are not as easy to program normally. The next think you would need to do is program it with a customized firmware for your keyboard design. The firmware I have been using is known as TMK which has a thread on both geekhack.org thread and deskthority.net thread but he is more active on geekhack so if you are looking to ask the developer questions I would recommend the geekhack thread. He has his firmware up on gethub so I here is a link to that as well TMK firmware. There is also a thread called How to build your very own keyboard firmware that walks you through how do edit and compile the the firmware to fit the matrix you have made for your keyboard.

Now since I assume I have lost everyone one by now I will just post some links to build logs of keyboard that will show you some different peoples keyboards and variations in what they have done

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45139.0

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42302.0

http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/hhfox-aka-diy-pcb-t6905.html

http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/tutorial-rebuilding-designing-thinkpad-keyboard-t7431.html

http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/onehand-20-keyboard-t6617.html

http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/thkb-tiny-hacking-keyboard-40-t6455.html

http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/the-apple-m0110-today-t1067.html

http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/my-diy-keyboard-collection-or-how-i-became-a-kb-geek-t2534.html

http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/katy-keyboard-or-k80cs-key80-contoured-split-t8524.html

Here are some places to find keyboard parts

http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/which is a decent place for new cherry mx switches and a few other keyboard parts. Really you can get a lot of the parts to make a custom phantom like was done on the forum here in Custom built Phantom Keyboard made by @the pokemon kid

http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/has keycaps sets that you can have custom printed as well as other keyboard parts as well

https://www.massdrop.com/has also become a decent place to get parts like switches or full keyboard kits

http://ortholinearkeyboards.com/is kind of a new site from what I have seen but they are also one of the few places that I can find keyboard plates so it may be a good place to start with a custom board if you are not interested in having something custom made for you or salvaging parts from a keyboard that is already made.

Now if i scared everyone off let me just say this. When i first heard people were making keyboard from slick on a wan show I then started looking into it and ordering parts and withing about 2 weeks I have made a keyboard and was using it for only $50 I know this isn't really what will happen for most people but their are ways to get into custom mechanical keyboard for relatively cheap and have it far more flexible the a standard keyboard.

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