Witcher 3 Dev promises only 30fps on consoles

[MEC-777]

Link: http://hardware-360.com/?p=11595

 

This caught my eye while reading the article about the Windows 9 upgrades...

 

It's about time devs stopped defending the consoles and making silly promises (Ubisoft). Let's be honest; the Xbox One and PS4 are weak sauce, plain and simple. The devs know it, we all know it. 

 

 

Very eager to play the unrestrained version on PC.

[Deletive]

They're not weak sauce. they're just pushing a stupid ton of AA.

[CatCloud]

They're not weak sauce. they're just pushing a stupid ton of AA.

Is that bad? The devs want there games fancy, and it just so happens that console can't handle it.

[Deletive]

Is that bad? The devs want there games fancy, and it just so happens that console can't handle it.

Oh it's not. just it has to look good on 55-65 inch tv's so it needs a lot of AA

[CatCloud]

Oh it's not. just it has to look good on 55-65 inch tv's so it needs a lot of AA

fair enough, them jaggies are annoying though even on 46- 50 inch

[Askew]

Anyone who expected more is deluded.

 

Real Witcher fans are IMO mostly PC players, not only because it's better on PC (obviously) but the first game is PC exclusive.

[Khvarrioiren]

They're not weak sauce. they're just pushing a stupid ton of AA.

 

Got a source on that?

[Deletive]

Got a source on that?

http://www.redgamingtech.com/the-order-1886-using-msaa-x4-resolution-not-set-in-stone-yet/ just a quick one

But considering it's running on mainly TV's above 40. AA and high textures take up a lot of the resources the PS4 has. not to consider that it's clocked at 850mhz.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7096/performance-retrospective-amds-radeon-hd-7970m/4 it's pretty much 7970m's with 8gb's of ram. 

[MEC-777]

They're not weak sauce. they're just pushing a stupid ton of AA.

It's not just AA. There's also antistropic filtering, high-res textures and all kinds of effects/lighting effects, tressfx, etc. which also requires hefty GPU muscle that the consoles just can't muster up. 

 

I actually don't have an issue with the new consoles, themselves, but rather the way they are marketed as graphics power-houses when they clearly are not and can barely push 1080p. The console manufacturers and some of the game devs are marketing these devices as trying to compete with PC gaming in terms of graphical fidelity and it's just a laugh, really. 

[Khvarrioiren]

http://www.redgamingtech.com/the-order-1886-using-msaa-x4-resolution-not-set-in-stone-yet/ just a quick one

 

That doesn't look like Witcher 3 to me

[Deletive]

That doesn't look like Witcher 3 to me

I was talking about the consoles in general. but No witcher 3 doesn't use AA and to be honest the game doesn't need it. Witcher 3 is pushing a whole lot more.

[DeViLzzz]

LOL at the next gen consoles.  Glad all I did was make money off them by flipping them.

[geogga]

Lel @The consoles

brb going to sell my Xbox and ps3 for 100 each, hopefully they still have that offer. They've been collecting dust and taking space.

[TheProfosist]

Oh it's not. just it has to look good on 55-65 inch tv's so it needs a lot of AA

Even AA can't fix lack of resolution especially at that screen size.

[Misanthrope]

That doesn't look like Witcher 3 to me

Well Witcher 2 on the 360 didn't look like Witcher 2 to me either

[Misanthrope]

Even AA can't fix lack of resolution especially at that screen size.

They probably mean getting back away enough, though the more sensible choice is to get back away enough to leave the room and just go buy a PC instead

[Scheer]

The only metric the team could promise was 30fps, aimed to ensure fluidity. 

 

 

CD Projekt Red, the company behind Witcher 3 has since clarified that statement. There is no concrete information about the resolution and frame rate.

 

Just so you guys know... It says nothing about "Only 30fps", just another click-bait website. There are quotes from the devs saying they are making sure they get AT LEAST 30fps.

[ZetZet]

xbone master race 900p?

[MEC-777]

Friend of mine prefers to game on Xbox One and I have no problem with that. It's what he prefers. The problem I have is due to the marketing propaganda, he (and so many others) believe the system is vastly more powerful than it really is. He honestly thought the latest consoles were 4k ready. I had to explain to him that 4k gaming requires serious hardware and that even a $1000 gaming PC will struggle to run it. I then explained to him the console's performance is equal to that of a low-mid range gaming PC at best and that 1080p gaming is already pushing the limits of the hardware. He was genuinely surprised at that. 

[MEC-777]

Just so you guys know... It says nothing about "Only 30fps", just another click-bait website. There are quotes from the devs saying they are making sure they get AT LEAST 30fps.

 

Thanks for clarifying.

 

Click-bait or not, I think it's safe to say; based on the fact that this game is being developed to push graphics and isn't the type of game that requires higher frame rates, (like first-person shooters etc.), they will most likely try to maintain 30fps which will allow them to try and push the visuals as much as they can on the limited console hardware.

 

30fps, regardless of the game, is unacceptable on modern hardware in 2014, IMO. Even budget gaming PCs can push more than that at 1080p. Dark Souls for PC was locked at 30fps and even though it was a great game, the low frame rate detracted from the experience, IMO. Dark Souls 2 runs like butter at 60fps+ which just makes it that much nicer to play.

[ACatWithThumbs]

They're not weak sauce. they're just pushing a stupid ton of AA.

Not true at all most games on console only use FXAA/MLAA.

MSAA is very rare on consoles because unless you get 1080p it would be a waste of performance.

It's also not a stupid ton unless it's something like 4xSSAA, 8xMSAA, or 32xQCAA.

The Ps4/XboxOne are just weak because Microsoft and Sony didn't want to take risks this gen so they made cheap consoles.

The XboxOne GPU is a GCN version of the HD5770 and the Ps4 has a HD7850 both of which are slow cards.

And that CPU is so bad that most pre built PCs at Best Buy would outperform it with ease.

[MEC-777]

The Ps4/XboxOne are just weak because Microsoft and Sony didn't want to take risks this gen so they made cheap consoles.

The XboxOne GPU is an exact GCN version of the HD5770 and the Ps4 has a HD7790 both of which are slow cards.

And that CPU is so bad that most pre built PCs at Best Buy would outperform it with ease.

I think you meant HD 7770 in the Xbox One.

 

But yeah, that's basically all they are. The main reason the PS4 is actually half-decent in terms of graphics horsepower is because they're using GDDR5 RAM instead of much slower DDR3 in the Xbox. That hinders the Xbox GPU even more, so it's actually slower than an HD 7770 (the GDDR5 versions).

 

The CPU is pretty much two quad-core Athlon 5150's which are based on AMD's Jaguar mobile cores. Very low power and low clocks. 

 

All that considered, I still can't understand how the PS4 managed to include the PSU inside their console, which is physically smaller than the Xbox One, and yet the Xbox One (which is physically larger) uses an external powerbrick... :huh:  Console logic at it's finest.

[ACatWithThumbs]

I think you meant HD 7770 in the Xbox One.

 

But yeah, that's basically all they are. The main reason the PS4 is actually half-decent in terms of graphics horsepower is because they're using GDDR5 RAM instead of much slower DDR3 in the Xbox. That hinders the Xbox GPU even more, so it's actually slower than an HD 7770 (the GDDR5 versions).

I said HD5770 because it's closer to the actual XboxOne specs than the HD7770 because of the slow ram.

 

[MEC-777]

I said HD5770 because it's closer to the actual XboxOne specs than the HD7770 because of the slow ram.

 

Ah, gotcha.

[Deletive]

Not true at all most games on console only use FXAA/MLAA.

MSAA is very rare on consoles because unless you get 1080p it would be a waste of performance.

It's also not a stupid ton unless it's something like 4xSSAA, 8xMSAA, or 32xQCAA.

The Ps4/XboxOne are just weak because Microsoft and Sony didn't want to take risks this gen so they made cheap consoles.

The XboxOne GPU is a GCN version of the HD5770 and the Ps4 has a HD7850 both of which are slow cards.

And that CPU is so bad that most pre built PCs at Best Buy would outperform it with ease.

the xbox one and ps4 gpu's are 260x and 7970m die's respectively (there is no 260x equal for mobile)