AMD FreeSync - AMD's Free G-SYNC Alternative

[SparkySamZa]

og come on, I was so going for a 780, and now I'm thinking about going 290....

you can still go for the 780 i am, i meen if you redeem the games you reduce the price by about £90 or like $110 so  it is still worth it, for price to performance.

[SparkySamZa]

Can you hurry up with this, I want to buy a pc someday and now I really have no idea who's side I'm on.

the problem i have found with AMD stuff ( not a nvidia fanboy) is that it take time to get it out, liek nvidia they get it out quite quickly, cause once they let the public know they know it is ready, where AMD press release stuff to earlier get a lot of hype and most times it flops, you also have to think of the driver problems they have , including crossfire.

[SparkySamZa]

Go with what A) fits your budget B) Gives you the best performance in the games you like and C) What would give you, the individual, a better experience. No matter what "team" you choose, its going to be a good choice. Chasing tech, so to speak, is generally a very bad idea. Something new, interesting, and neat will always come out or be talked about and can preclude you from buying some kind of tech.

could not agree anymore than that

[LOLPhilips]

AMD is trying to take the first place of Nvidia. R9 290 with Mantle and this, you get so much more FPS in games if Mantle succees and with FreeSync... mmmm =)

 

Sure I'd wouldn't even have an issue recommending AMD, but I have had a much better experience with Nvidia so far.. So I kinda picked "my brand" a few years ago and don't plan on changing... 

[LifesCompanion]

eh....

like really eh...

I need/would prefer having a consumer preview esque thing... till then I'm going to stay neutral with neither high nor low expectations. 

[LifesCompanion]

the problem i have found with AMD stuff ( not a nvidia fanboy) is that it take time to get it out, liek nvidia they get it out quite quickly, cause once they let the public know they know it is ready, where AMD press release stuff to earlier get a lot of hype and most times it flops, you also have to think of the driver problems they have , including crossfire.

"most times it flops" *cough*reference290X*cough*

[Chevaishr]

It doesn't they say the Display has to support it also which isn't the case for every screen.

Only panels with the VESA support it !

"The GPU’s display engine needs to support it, as do the panel and display hardware itself"

seeing as the standard was made in 2002 and most TVs use the vesa standard there should be no problems using this tech on a TV unfortunately not a lot of monitors do the whole VESA thing ... currently i'm using a 22'' tv and the refresh rated of the thing does seem to adjust to whatever i'm doing but not continuously so i would still get tearing with an fps spike (half life 2 runs at 74fps on my pc and when i go into the monitor settings the refresh rate reads 74fps)     

[Ashaira]

"most times it flops" *cough*reference290X*cough*

 

well in all fairness they hyped the card not the cooler and the card lived up to what AMD said it should (780). the fact that the aftermarket ones are competing with the reference 780 Ti is a bonus. 

[Fetzie]

seeing as the standard was made in 2002 and most TVs use the vesa standard there should be no problems using this tech on a TV unfortunately not a lot of monitors do the whole VESA thing ... currently i'm using a 22'' tv and the refresh rated of the thing does seem to adjust to whatever i'm doing but not continuously so i would still get tearing with an fps spike (half life 2 runs at 74fps on my pc and when i go into the monitor settings the refresh rate reads 74fps)     

 

So if we go out and buy a TV and use it as a monitor, it should work out of the box?

[linus7]

can someone explain to me how this works
its basicly a software that is downloadable? or is it already integrated in the gpus? 

[BalloonZaptor]

You know what this means... affordable G-Sync monitors!

[Arndroid]

only amd gpus? sorry no time to read. 

Ohh, come on.

I see some Nvidea fanboys are really burned, others are atleast admitting they would go for an AMD GPU if they still had the choice.

 

You bought the card you can afford, along with additional costs in mind for their 'exclusive, and only possible on' features.

You know you get more performance for your money from AMD, and Mantle support on the GPU. (which is open source)

Additionally now a FREE alternative to G-Sync. (You don't have to buy the latest GPU, or exclusive expensive hardware to make it all work)

 

I guess we could have seen it coming.

Nvidea has always been milking money from their costumers, trying to make exclusive features for their GPU's.

AMD at the other hand...

 

It's your choice, but I'll pick AMD above Nvidea and Intel anytime.

[LifesCompanion]

well in all fairness they hyped the card not the cooler and the card lived up to what AMD said it should (780). the fact that the aftermarket ones are competing with the reference 780 Ti is a bonus. 

"Titan killer" 

 

If you compare pineapples to pineapples -> reference cooler 780 vs reference cooler 290, the 780 does win... however, after market coolers do tell a weird story, 290's reference power phase design is crap so the chip set doesn't get enough juice, etc. 

[Ashaira]

"Titan killer" 

 

If you compare pineapples to pineapples -> reference cooler 780 vs reference cooler 290, the 780 does win... however, after market coolers do tell a weird story, 290's reference power phase design is crap so the chip set doesn't get enough juice, etc. 

 

um the 290X is the titan killer and it passes the titan quite well in lots of benchmarks synthetic and realworld.

[Guest GRRigger]

AMD omg                *blown away*

[xxTigerShark]

Well this was bound to happen. Happy it did, competition is always a good thing in these cases.

[Gunjob]

"Titan killer" 

 

If you compare pineapples to pineapples -> reference cooler 780 vs reference cooler 290, the 780 does win... however, after market coolers do tell a weird story, 290's reference power phase design is crap so the chip set doesn't get enough juice, etc. 

Erm since when does the chip not get enough juice? Compared to greenlight you can get much more power through to the GPU then a Green team card, currently allowing up 150% power through the PCIe socket and overvolting as well (on most cards) Take my 290x in my sig for example? Will concede that the reference cooler is terrible though. 

[Vitalius]

Wow, there is no way that Nvidia did not know about this, This is a new VESA standard. That makes absolutely no sense for them to come out with their proprietary G-sync when this is happening. I wouldn't call it an AMD technology, being a VESA standard. There must be something up Nvidia's sleeve. Either that or they hardcore derped....

 

Obviously, current monitors won't support it. There are VESA compliant CRT monitors from like 20 years ago. Those won't have this. Standards change over time.

I think... you are missing something here.

VBLANK is about power saving and other such things. It's a VESA standard. 

AMD using VBLANK as make-shift VSync is an AMD technology (in how they use it). They are making use of a feature that is there on monitors for something no one has used it for before (AFAIK). 

So no. What AMD is doing is unique and theirs. VBLANK isn't theirs, but the way they are using it is theirs.

[afa7336]

um the 290X is the titan killer and it passes the titan quite well in lots of benchmarks synthetic and realworld.

 

Not really, to be honest. It competes with the Titan, sure and in some tests it barely beats it. In others it actually loses to the Titan. Its a pretty fair fight and a good card for AMD to put out. But Titan Killer, not at all. It doesn't crush the Titan. PCPer has probably some of the best data you can get on the 290x and it shows a pretty even fight. The reason a lot of reviews have this huge gap is the cards were "cold" so it didn't throttle the cards like we see when the 290x is warmed up.

[Jasmin]

I wrote some pretty good input earlier in the thread but it seems most of the people on this page didnt read that.

Don't worry, I've read your post and understand it :> Still doesn't change the fact that I want some tests AND input.

 

For me there's also a difference between 'doesn't refresh until a new frame is produced' with 'refreshes as soon as and only when new frame is produced in high performance environment'. Dem corps love swell tongue twisters that can have different meanings.

[That Norwegian Guy]

With a software solution comes latency and input lag, good on AMD to find a way to provide an alternative to G-sync, but it by no means will be as good.

 

Considering I'm going for IPS panels, even more input lag is completely out of the question.

[Fetzie]

With a software solution comes latency and input lag, good on AMD to find a way to provide an alternative to G-sync, but it by no means will be as good.

 

Considering I'm going for IPS panels, even more input lag is completely out of the question.

 

Given that AMD's version is based on firmware controlling hardware inside of the display device, and nVidia's version is firmware controlling a daughterboard that adds the same function to the monitor, wouldn't one expect a similar amount of latency?

[R4STABAN]

Typical of AMD to use a silly marketing term to drum up attention. Most of their customers are young with short attention spans (can't afford intel cpus and nvidia gpus). (Trolololllo)

'Free' is it? I'm guessing you'll need a new monitor just the same as gsync, or they would've used monitors for their presentation.

Lets see how this pans out.

[Frix]

Day by day things are coming out that make me want to get a 290/x over a 780/ti

[Fetzie]

Typical of AMD to use a silly marketing term to drum up attention. Most of their customers are young with short attention spans (can't afford intel cpus and nvidia gpus). (Trolololllo)

'Free' is it? I'm guessing you'll need a new monitor just the same as gsync, or they would've used monitors for their presentation.

Lets see how this pans out.

 

I think it is "free" in that they won't charge a royalty fee for implementing it.